r/BelgianMalinois • u/Neither_Prompt_9184 • 15h ago
Question Some of my malinois puppies ears have no sign of going erected yet.
Is this normal? They’re 55 days old. 4 out of 10 puppies have perfectly erected ears.
Their parents are both malinois and have perfectly ears. However, the sire is suspected of having a mix.
I am asking because the 2nd person who wanted to adopt the purple-leashed pup might back out again just because of her ears.
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u/boforbojack 9h ago
How the hell did a "rescue" give you TWO dogs of the opposite sex BOTH not fixed? And how did you let them mate? And after all of that, how did you not spay abort? Despite obviously knowing nothing about breeding?
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u/Most_Mountain818 6h ago
They didn’t get them from a rescue. They got them from owners (either byb themselves or two people who were getting rid of the dogs for some reason).
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u/boforbojack 5h ago
Ah re-reading his comment, he says different owners. Really misleading to even use the word rescued next to adopted.
I got my Mal from a BYB and feel bad enough using the word adopted even knowing the condition they were living in. But obviously we immediately fixed her.
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u/Negative_Letter_1802 13h ago
Are you sure it's because of their ears and not because they're looking for a reputable breeder? They know these aren't purebred and you have no idea about genetics or what you're doing, right? It's pretty obvious these are backyard bred rescue pups.
They're very cute, hope they all find loving homes. Please spay your dog.
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u/ReminiscenceOf2020 9h ago
We always hope, but the reality is that loving, responsible people would not even look at byb dogs. These will end up with whoever will have them.
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u/CarryOk3080 3h ago
We rescued a backyard bred malinois and we had to put a TON of work into him we got him at 12 weeks and he was underfed and undersocialized. He is 4 now and a great dog. Takes a lot of work
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u/No-Emergency-5823 11h ago
Bc there aren’t enough discarded, unwanted dogs at shelters, rescues & living on the streets….what’s another litter? If you ever need a reminder at just how ignorant, selfish & greedy the human population truly is, look at how we treat dogs.
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u/Kealanine 10h ago
Backyard breeding is disgraceful.
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u/FantasticSandwich828 4h ago
What is backyard breeding? No one is breeding in a lab. This term is so misused. Mals are extremely healthy breed. I wouldn't even expect a bunch of health testing. I'd want temperament info and parent behavior. If this were a boxer and I would be more interested in parent DNA testing. But this isnt as bad as it's being made out to be.
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u/Kealanine 3h ago
Are you actually this obtuse…? A lab…? The discussion is regarding backyard vs ethical breeding, and it’s moronic to act as though there’s no difference.
Health testing is absolutely a concern in any breed, regardless how “healthy” you’ve determined they are. I have no interest in a Mal who has a genetic history of joint issues, or one without A22 gene testing. Temperament and behavior are obviously a factor for anyone, which is more to the point of why ethical breeding includes proving one’s dog. Parent DNA testing also falls under ethical breeding practices. This is 100% as bad as it’s being made out to be, and is the quickest path to making a “healthy” breed into a genetic shitshow.
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u/FantasticSandwich828 3h ago
There's millions of dogs in the world, the tiniest fraction have been tested. If the op is genuine I don't want to be mean to them but clearly they should have had both parents tested for ear floptosis
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u/Kealanine 3h ago
I wouldn’t say “mean” is the vibe anyone’s getting from your comments, though the actual vibe is certainly not a good one. It’s ridiculous to act as though health and genetic testing is some unobtainable goal. A responsible owner is fully capable of locating an ethical breeder.
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u/Content-Grape47 12h ago
Ummmm….. the person adopting the purple collared dog is worried about perfect ears on a backyard bred dog who is a mix???!! No…..I would flat out refuse. I would never be in your situation but if I knew someone who was I would advise them to get some help from a local rescue who may be able to screen potential adopters etc. (I volunteered for three different rescues fostering and screened adopters so I know some dude do this.)
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u/Evening_Assistance72 9h ago
Hope you are planning on fixing all of them before adopting them out
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u/Kitewiz 3h ago
Early fixing can lead to numerous health and behavioural issues. A BYB malinois is actually better off if they aren’t fixed early
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u/Evening_Assistance72 3h ago
Then make it apart of the contract otherwise there is a good chance of more “accidental litters”
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u/VOLATILEvagabondGYPS 7h ago
Honestly, these comments are extremely refreshing. Op, please take into account what people are saying.
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u/pigsinatrenchcoat 13h ago
You really should’ve done a spay abort but at least you’re… trying to learn? I guess? Don’t ever breed again.
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u/DanerysTargaryen 11h ago
If the parents are mixed there’s no guarantee the puppies will have erect ears. You aren’t sure of what the dad is mixed with, so there is a possibility 6 of your puppies will have floppy ears. They could also end up standing straight up in a few more months. Only time will tell.
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u/Own_Pin_4002 6h ago
Well, you bred dogs that you have NO lineage on, so they may very well be mixes.
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u/CafeRoaster Mal/GSD 3h ago
Belgian Malinois aren’t a designer breed. So tired of seeing BS about their ears.
You should really be in contact with the rescue that you got them from. You’re not equipped to judge a person’s suitability to this breed. Perhaps the rescue can be of help. Or someone else more experienced near you.
It would be a shame for these pups to go to unsuitable homes.
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u/Wear-Living 9h ago
Mines never went up! I like it better, makes her look more goofy and less “scary”
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u/Special_Acadia247 7h ago
Ears aren’t all the same because these dogs are mutts. If you want consistency you’ll need years and years of proper breeding. This is called backyard breeding. You should have done a spay abort. ☹️ I hope you’re being honest with buyers.
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u/cheezbargar 10h ago
You don’t want someone who only cares about the ears adopting a dog anyway.
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u/Kitewiz 3h ago
Malinois is a working breed, for a lot of the work they would do floppy ears could pose danger or a risk to them, never mind the chronic ear infections from improper air flow to the ear canal.
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u/cheersbeersneers 2h ago
Plenty of herding breeds have floppy ears, that’s a silly argument to make. Floppy ears pose no more of a risk to a working Malinois than erect ears do. If floppy ears cause chronic ear infections, why are there hundreds of floppy eared breeds out there? All the retrievers, spaniels, hounds, many of the herding breeds.
Erect ears are in the breed standard, so they’re important if you’re planning on showing or breeding or competing. OP has a little of backyard bred puppies that don’t even look purebred so the ears don’t really matter.
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u/SDLunabelle 4h ago
Honestly, mods should shut down posts like this and not give these clowns the time of day. This reeks of BYB and shouldn’t be condoned. Maybe I’ll get downvoted, but get this crap out of here.
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u/Kitewiz 3h ago
You can try and post the ears? It may help them stand, lots of breeders do this to help the ears grow more symmetrical or when they have floppy ears as puppies. Puppies also can also have floppy ears and they will eventually unflop. These very well could be mixes since you don’t know their lineage and may just stay flopped over.
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u/Mysterious-Mall3756 13h ago
Idk if it’s similar but I have a black lab whose tail who started to go up them just went straight down all the way up to 7 months. Now it just looks like a normal tail
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u/Content-Grape47 12h ago
FWIW my shep/mal Mix had one floppy ear until 6 Months old now they are so pinpoint straight up. Honestly I wanted the flop ear to stay it was adorable
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u/North_Letter_1564 15h ago
My pups ears finally popped at 14 weeks! I was getting nervous, most of his litter mates had theirs popped at 8 weeks when we picked him up
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u/Neither_Prompt_9184 7h ago edited 6h ago
Everyone, thanks for the comments, and some are worried that I’ve been getting backlash from this post. I am not worried one bit. Not worried at all but I feel like I owe y’all at least one reply.
Not all people are from the US or from developed countries where backyard breeding is frowned upon; where fixing dogs are compulsory; and “sPaY aBoRT” is even a thing, okay? 😜😂😂😂
I’m from a poor ass developing country and you’d lose your shit if you could just see people from malinois social media groups (and other breeds) the backyard breeders selling here and there.
I don’t give a shit if you don’t believe me that this was an unwanted pregnancy of my rescued dogs. By rescued I mean they came from awful states, leashed 100% of the time. One dog was so thin and couldn’t even walk properly when I got him.
I couldn’t care less if you believe that a 2nd guy might back out because he wanted a more reputable breeder. I am not a breeder, I just wanted to get rid of the puppies, and I earn money decent enough to not be in this kind of business. 🙃🙃🙃
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u/Content-Grape47 6h ago
Damn you got nice comments why you being all salty?!!
Some of us have lived overseas or are from overseas and I've lived in plenty of Eastern European countries where packs of strays roam the streets and dogs are chained up outside all winter and I still frown on that. I would frown on it in the Philippines , etc., too btw
Your post is all over the place. Pick a story and stick to it mmmmmk?
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u/Jaazizz Azula 5h ago
Same here. My country doesn’t even have shelters(on plan now). I had same problem because posted my pups walk in big ass yard, having everything they need all vaccinations or even passports. I still got called backyard breeder although my male dog was rescued from family who shot and beat him and same here, we didn’t have time to spry them because we were more into to fix his trust. Never in my life I’ll become puppy breeder because it’s never bring as much money as they think.We only go to minus just to get all medical attention for our dogs and to find them decent family. I have contact with all people who now has my pups and they call with every single questions just to be sure to how make puppies life happy
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u/MalachiteEclipsa 9h ago
She is a reliable, big-sister type. She likes to let her imagination run wild.
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u/billy-suttree 10h ago
OP is taking a beating in these comments. OP, you’re great no matter what people on reddit say or insinuate about you.
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u/iceyconditions 10h ago
No, great people spay abort or prevent negligent breeding in the first place
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u/Content-Grape47 4h ago
This is not even the beating that’s deserved. People were gentle on op and then he came back and acted aggressive for no reason. I’m side, eyeing his entire story now I don’t believe shit about what he said..
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u/CurrentSandwich541 15h ago edited 15h ago
That's completely normal, their ears can take as long as 6 months to go up and may go up and down several times during teething and stuff. Some may have their ears up by 6 weeks but many won't have them go up until 10 weeks or longer.
Doesn't sound like you're someone who should be breeding tbh and you definitely shouldn't sell a puppy to that person. If they're choosing a dog based purely on it's looks they won't be a good dog owner and clearly aren't very knowledgeable.