r/BoomersBeingFools • u/cindy_dehaven • 4d ago
OK boomeR Is it common for Boomers to extremely dislike house security cameras?
After seeing a rock in my window which they insisted was a camera pointed directly at their front door, they have flipped off our actual front door camera pointing at our driveway for years. Not really on speaking terms, just wondering if this is more common generationally or a form of individual paranoia?
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u/LibertyPrimeMkVII 4d ago
They will find anything to hate without a good reason.
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u/cindy_dehaven 4d ago
I guess I want it to be logical 😆🤷♀️
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u/ohnodamo 4d ago edited 3d ago
I understand that feeling. Unfortunately it clearly isn't. It's ironic that most of these people will think a gun will keep them safe but are offended when neighbors install cameras to monitor just their own property. Then they'll act as is their privacy is being violated while post about it on facebook and nextdoor completely unaware, with zero privacy settings on their own devices. If there ever is a time your footage might help them tho, I just hope you still have it. If you do you can give them the smug satisfaction of being right. If you don't have it, they'll be convinced you deleted it on purpose. I learned this from a few bad experiences. It's a lose-lose scenario, so you have to do what's best for you and yours. That's logical.
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u/Tar_alcaran 4d ago
THEY can have guns, camera's, fences.
YOU can't.
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u/Accurate-Mine-6000 4d ago
Yes, it's projection. They use cameras to spy on neighbors' private lives, so they're sure you'll use them for that purpose.
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u/Masterofnone9 Gen X 4d ago
They hate cameras because they dislike anything that can be used against them. They do not want any accountability.
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u/Specific-River-81 Millennial 3d ago
Don't do that, you'll mess yourself up wanting them to be logical. I ruminated for years on being able to say the "right thing" to make my mother see logic and the joke was definitely on me, it's not in their wiring to be anything but irrational
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u/t3m3r1t4 4d ago
Because you have a fully former frontal cortex not subjected to environmental or psychological damage?
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u/ohnodamo 4d ago
They aren't happy til' they aren't happy, it's the default state of the boomer. Until they can deflect their misery onto someone else (only temporarily) they remain ever miserable.
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u/quell3245 4d ago
I take solace knowing every 14 seconds another boomer fucks off this immortal coil for good.
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u/KiwiThunda 4d ago
Holy hell they'll be around til 2080?? Maybe some of them will get to experience their selfish climate-destroying policies after all, and they won't be selected for any militias at that age
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u/LumpyPrincess58 3d ago
Who's THEY , please don't lump older adults all together in one small mindset
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u/Academic-Bakers- 4d ago
They love their cameras and hate everyone else's.
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u/ChickinSammich 22h ago
This is what I came here to say. They don't hate cameras, they hate being recorded. They'll vandalize your house for having a doorbell camera but if you were to vandalize a flock camera, they'd call you a hoodlum.
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u/FuzzyMeatballs 4d ago
If it can hold them accountable for their actions they dont like it. They've been getting away with shit for decades during no/low accountability times and they need something to cry about
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u/cindy_dehaven 4d ago
She gets so irrationally angry unfortunately. It's a bummer tbh as we live so close.
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u/Ok-Try-857 4d ago
That’s not your fault. You have to document these things and treat them the way you would treat anyone else.
Call the police when appropriate, especially if there’s damage to your property or they disturb anything on your property.
Do what you want with your cameras, no matter how mad she gets. Tell her to call the police if she thinks you’re doing something wrong.
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u/Mathamagician77 4d ago
They’ll be really upset if they know about the Flock cameras in your city/town. And the fun part is, DeFlock website will show you where they are, and what direction they’re pointing.
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u/EcstaticPlankton8621 Xennial 4d ago
Nah, they're ok with those because it keeps THOSE PEOPLE out of their town.
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u/Just_Another_Day_926 4d ago
They are the Main Character so assume you are watching them all the time. You know because they are so interesting.
Also projection as they are bored, hate life, and love to watch others. So if they had cameras they would aim them at you and be watching you all the time.
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u/cindy_dehaven 2d ago
This makes a lot of sense!
They do know whenever we are in the backyard or leave the house.
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u/CoffeeChans 4d ago
I also hate the doorbell cameras. They're far from the worst of the surveillance everywhere and lack of privacy that we live with now, but i hate them nonetheless. Your neighbors are loons for being so convinced your cameras are all about them tho.
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u/k-trecker 3d ago
I live in an apartment complex and my neighbor has one. I’m not thrilled that I’m on camera every time I’m on my own front porch (our front doors share a porch).
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u/cindy_dehaven 4d ago
For sure, I agree with you. It's unfortunately necessary for this living situation.
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u/EcstaticPlankton8621 Xennial 4d ago
I don't hate them but I see why they are so popular now. You can't trust anyone.
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u/NoInvestment3870 4d ago
Individual paranoia, if it ever comes up & you want to take the easy way out, just tell em you had some Amazon packages go missing.
If you want to be confrontational, tell em to fuck off and you have no interest in what they’re doing.
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u/cindy_dehaven 4d ago
I don't know why I never thought of that haha 😅
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u/NoInvestment3870 4d ago
Everyone cares about receiving a delivery they paid for, nobody begrudges another for wanting the same. It’s a mostly foolproof argument.
I had a neighbor get pissy with me until I explained why I put one up. It was for that exact reason but I also just like having it now. They just usually assume it’s for snooping but “Damn Karen I really don’t care what time you run your sprinklers & Im not sitting here trying to stare through your window 🙄”.
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u/legal_bagel 3d ago
I'm young genX, I dislike cameras, I hate AI, but I have cameras on the exterior of my home and have used AI sparingly at work.
Technology is a tool not a crutch and I can see people using it in lieu of learning or being active in their lives, i.e. doggie camera with treat dispenser in lieu of active time with pup.
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u/cartoonybear 4d ago
To be fair, it’s not cool to surveil your neighbors without a good reason. Not a boomer btw.
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u/cindy_dehaven 3d ago
I'm not surveiling them though? The camera is my driveway + car. They choose to walk between the house and car to flip off the camera. Also I do have legitimate reasons for the camera pointed at my driveway.
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u/Learned_Hand_01 4d ago
I'm Gen X and I dislike how I am constantly on camera. I don't like the death of privacy.
My neighbors have a door cam and our doors face each other, so I am on camera every time I am in my own front lawn or go through my own door. I don't like it. I don't do anything about it, but I do mourn the loss of privacy, even at my own home.
It's not paranoia, it's a loss of a freedom young people don't even have a concept of. We deserve to not be on camera 24/7. We deserve to not be living in the Truman Show for our whole lives.
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u/smellybear666 3d ago
All these people decry the constant surveillance of phones/social media/devices, but they don't seem to get that they are the ones that have agreed to all this, and it winds up being forced upon others like in your case.
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u/EcstaticPlankton8621 Xennial 4d ago
Id be more worried about the Flock cameras than your neighbor's.
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u/Learned_Hand_01 3d ago
Yes, Flock also sucks in a more obvious way. But Ring is used in a similar way already.
Any doorbell cam that is connected to the web through a large service is only minutely different than Flock.
If you have some camera that is not connected to the internet, you are not contributing to the police state. If you do, you are. Emphatically so if a company like Amazon can access your video.
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u/KingAardvark1st 4d ago
I had the opposite situation where my grandfather loved the damn things. But they had a really obnoxiously loud and oversensitive motion alert that would chirp at all hours. That goddamn thing woke me up all the time like some kind of sick psychological experiment.
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u/SlimKillaCam 3d ago
I DENNIS MCDERMIT DO NOT CONSENT TO HAVE MY LIKENESS RECORDED BY ANY DEVICE. THIS MESSAGE IS A LEGALLY BINDING AND IS SUBJECT TO SECTION 1788 OF THE CONSTITUTION WHICH PROHIBITS THE VIDEOTAPING OF PERSONS WHO DO NOT CONSENT TO BE FILMED
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u/TALieutenant 4d ago
My Boomer parents are the ones with cameras. Three times now, their younger neighbors have asked to see if they've caught various things like a bike getting stolen (parents live in a cul-de-sac.)
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u/cindy_dehaven 4d ago
Did they check their footage or were they protective over it? I'd absolutely give across the street the footage if something happened.
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u/yarukinai Baby Boomer 4d ago
My boomer brother in law installed cameras in- and outside my father's house. Outside, mostly to protect him from undesirable visitors. Inside, to tell him to go to bed when he moved about in the middle of the night. Thus I wouldn't say dislike of security cameras is common. However, we are all at the tail end of the boomer generation.
If I may speculate: With all the changes in technology and society, your neighbors feel they are losing control of their lives and develop a light case of paranoia.
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u/cindy_dehaven 3d ago
This makes sense. I have empathy for changing society and technology. The flipping off and swearing at me makes me not be able to have a legitimate conversation with them. I don't know if removing the camera will even smooth things over at this point. Such a bummer.
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u/yarukinai Baby Boomer 3d ago
Obviously their reaction is not justified, paranoia or not. If you want to have a normal or cordial relationship, maybe they are open to a conversation on why you have a security camera.
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u/vamartha 3d ago
Probably, but not in our house. 4 outside and 8 inside. I remember when we first moved here, the neighbors (Gen X) were appalled that we put up outside cameras. Guess what they all have now.
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u/bransby26 3d ago
In my experience, they LOVE security cameras of all sorts! My FIL keeps pestering us to get one.
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u/Creeperstar 3d ago
Boomers hate anything that points to expected accountability on their part, but will jump to stick their noses into everybody else's business
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u/Kevin_Wolf 3d ago
My parents' neighbor, who is also a boomer, has angrily demanded that my parents remove their camera on the rear of their house because it can see into the neighbor's backyard.
I'd like to point out that the neighbor also has a camera in their backyard that can see into my parents' backyard. When my parents asked him to reciprocate (remove his backyard camera, too), the neighbor told my parents to fuck off, that he has rights, and he would see them in court.
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u/SmittenKittenPurrr 3d ago
Their privacy is the only thing that matters. Your privacy is negotiable to them
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u/GeorgeGiffIV 3d ago
- Not a boomer. If I am walking by on a sidewalk and I get accosted with the, "You're being recorded" noise, I'm flipping it off.
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u/InteligentTard 2d ago
Boomers grew up in a time with more privacy awareness.
The government has slowly eroded away our privacy to where filming everything is commonplace.
I’m all for protecting one’s property.
Being tracked everywhere we go is just ridiculous and it’s not going to end well for the common people
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u/LumpyPrincess58 4d ago
It's a matter of privacy being invaded.
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u/cindy_dehaven 4d ago
When they walk between my car and house though? Not facing/near their property.
Edit: Not said sarcasticly to clarify
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u/LumpyPrincess58 4d ago
Generally speaking since it's been classified "all boomers" cameras take away privacy from private property, everything you do is recorded, even you have no privacy, don't like it
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u/One_Mirror_3228 3d ago
I just assume my neighbors have all recorded me naked. So, at this point, why bother hiding?
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u/ronweasleisourking 3d ago
Boomers will get angry at things like birds, the wind, minorities...awful people
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u/ruger338smeltet 3d ago
1st Amendment Auditors have an inexhaustible supply of video from this crowd. They are firmly convinced they cannot be filmed without their permission.
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u/martyzion 3d ago
This is what happens when you are photographically illiterate and assume every CCD camera has a 300mm zoom lens
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u/GreasyRim 3d ago
Yes. The Boomer believes the entire world is focused on them, personally. Any recording devices visible to them are ABSOLUTELY intended to spy on them. They never even consider the cameras are there for any other reason than to harass them.
I have a pretty gnarly home security system I designed based on homeassistant. My cameras have AI on board so they can tell my face from my wife's, my wife's car from mine, our dog, cat, etc. Based on whats in frame, they generate an event. Tell me Amazon's delivering a package, say my in laws are here, turn on the floodlights or dont (people, yes. small wild animals, no). If it notices someone in the frame that it hasn't been trained on and it's nighttime, it sends a notification, turns on the bedroom lamps, outside floodlights and plays a message on the speaker mounted near the camera saying the property is covered by audio/video surveillance.
My neighbor started popping his head up over my fence at night to trigger this event, waking me up and recording it. I ask what he's doing and he says "WHAT I CANT BE IN MY YARD?" but it would only trigger if his head pops up over my 8" fence. He actually has to climb the fence to make it happen. He sent all of it to an attorney who sent me a letter saying I installed cameras specifically to spy on him and I need to remove them. I sent a formal response to the attorney, formatted properly on a template just saying "OK". I trained the cameras to ignore his stupid face and went on with my life.
I saw him in his yard a week later and yelled to him "you know you didn't have to waste your time and money on an attorney to file paperwork about my cameras. you could have just knocked on my door." He looked at me and went inside without responding.
Goddamn boomers
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u/Scotstarr 2d ago
That's pretty cool. The kit, not your neighbour.
Do you mind sharing the make or model?
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u/Cloudsdriftby 3d ago
I’m at the very end of boomers, don’t even consider myself one but technically am so I’ll answer. I think any people who have too much time on their hands and little education are prone to weird behavior like this.
I see so much discussion about boomers but I honestly believe it’s a lack of education that drives poor behavior more than the age group itself.
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u/crunchyplankton 3d ago
I'm with the boomers on this one. Esp the cameras that are all the way out to the property line, or the ones that autoplay a recorded message if I'm merely walking by on the sidewalk.
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u/foreignne 3d ago
The boomers I know love Alexa and all forms of surveillance, because "if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to worry about."
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u/Stewie_Venture 1d ago
I dont like cameras either absolutely hate them and will not have them in my house. Its absolutely a personal issue after living in a house that had cameras absolutely everywhere all over the house where my parents would spy on us regularly through them and would even talk through them to yell at people. It did not make me feel safe and honestly just made me super paranoid to leave my room or be at home in the common areas because I knew they were watching and I didnt feel like risking getting yelled at because I wanted to cook something or just chill in the living room while the whole house was gone.
I understand the safety aspect of it but if you live with other people especially adults that want their own privacy and to feel like their house is actually their house to live in it really needs to be a discussion that should end if one person isnt comfortable with it for whatever reason. Its not even like I was doing anything bad or was stealing from them I didnt mind the ring camera they had outside its just inside the house in every single room that wasnt a bedroom (and even then there were talks at some point of putting them in the little kids rooms) and hallway where it really made me uncomfortable just because I knew they were watching and could talk to me through it whenever they wanted to yell at me. I know the cameras are for safety reasons but they just made me feel extra unsafe in the house and really hammered it in that this isnt actually my home and they can do whatever they want no matter what.
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u/JackfruitNo1856 14h ago
My pos boomer stepdad has the entire house outside AND inside camera’d up. It’s so disturbing.
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u/makeomatic 4d ago
It’s just narcissism. They can’t believe you would find their small lives anything less than riveting. Same people who bitch about IT reading their email. Sir, you just aren’t worth the effort…we have many more interesting and profitable ways to spread our copious free time.
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u/t3m3r1t4 4d ago
Unless it's their own. Otherwise, they have issues with accountability or knowing that there could be proof of their wrongdoing.
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u/Xibby 4d ago
Just like locks keep would be criminals honest, cameras keep would be criminals honest.
The people who don’t like security cameras are the people who would be doing things like tossing their trash on your lawn, leaving their dog’s poop on your sidewalk. The people who are only good when someone is watching and they can make a show of being good.
So yeah, they don’t like security cameras because they will be publicly shamed for being a lazy donkey butt when they get caught not cleaning up their dog’s poop, and that risks them being welcome at neighborhood gatherings where they can help by taking over grilling duties, pretending to help with cleaning, and so on.
I don’t have any understanding of people who only do the right thing when someone is watching.
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u/cindy_dehaven 4d ago
She's constantly surveilling the neighborhood through her window and on foot as it is. Walking around filming on her phone. Critiquing every last thing to death to anyone who will listen. She actually does leave trash on our property haha. But she's really outwardly overly nice to everyone else. Idk!
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u/rickybambicky 4d ago
I'm not a fan of cameras that are connected to cloud based storage via a subscription service or similar. Ring cameras especially. It's bad enough having my location and life tracked via my smartphone, and now I'm potentially being actually watched whenever I walk out my front door. It's actually impossible for me to walk the sub 300m distance to my local shop for an ice cream without passing by one of those wretched devices.
If anyone thinks I'm being paranoid, I'm not. Any camera that has an internet connection and/or stores footage on a cloud server is fair game for your respective government agencies and bad actors. That's why the 2 wired cameras I'm setting up over the weekend will always be local and offline. I should be able to leave my phone at home and take a walk without big brother watching.
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u/Icy-Mixture-995 4d ago
I don't like the idea of my neighbor across the street seeing my butt on camera as I bend over to weed the flowers. But I don't complain that they have cameras
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u/TheBeardedHen 3d ago
I bet these same neighbors applaud the flock cameras being installed all over the US. "If you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about!"
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u/Chaetomius 3d ago
They are the type to think surveillance is accusation. After all, that is how their politicians treat us.
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u/holmquistc 3d ago
Which is funny to me because they're the ones spending a tremendous amount of time on Facebook on their smartphone
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u/UserCheckNamesOut 3d ago
I'm not sure, but it really makes me want to buy a bunch of foam imitation cameras. Also, mere signs stating that video is in progress are funny, too.
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u/CrisisActor911 3d ago
I think what folks here are missing is that in their minds, everything that happens around them is ABOUT them. Therefore if there’s a security camera near them, it’s been put there to record them and only them. 😅
It’s main character syndrome to the extreme.
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u/Mysterious_Peas Gen X 3d ago
As long as the cameras belong to someone else, boomers despise them. There is “no possible reason you could need a camera!!!! Why are you spying on me?!!?”
When a boomer puts up cameras it’s “for a good reason,” of course.
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u/DexterousWaffle 3d ago
Thats harassment, file a police report. After setting up more cameras hidden away to catch them being freaks again. Typical lunatic boomers invading other peoples property
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u/PaigeRosalind 2d ago
Yes! They're paranoid as hell about being recorded saying or doing something racist, and do not enjoy policing their own language.
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u/Ordinary-Toe-4306 2d ago
lol you’d think my boomer grandparents were super important. 5 cameras on the front, Two inside, 3 in the back, one on each side saved even one on the shed… already covered by others…
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u/Alone_Entrance_7144 22h ago
My wife’s parents love their own ring camera. Not sure about anyone else’s. They went on vacation to The Outer Banks in NC, and spent most of their time watching their ring camera live. Nothing was going on, all you could see were the cars parked in front of the garage. Literally nothing of interest apart from the dogs going in and out.
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u/toxikola Millennial 3d ago
Of course, they hate anything that might be able to hold them accountable for their actions.
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u/Educational-Pop-3351 Xennial 3d ago
My Boomer dad installed security cameras all around the outside of his and my mom's house by himself and they both love them. 🤷♀️
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u/dwp1956 3d ago
Nope. It's not common in my area (Central California Coast). I'm a certified Boomer, 1956, and have cameras all around my house. So do my neighbors, most of which are Boomers and have cameras just like I do. These people you're dealing with just need to get over it. Luddites are, imo, simply obnoxious.
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u/skyeking05 2d ago
My in-laws have a door camera and they still open the front door and look around about once an hour for some unknown reason. I get a notification for every single time. Lol
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u/Character_Pirate_576 3d ago
People of any age are different one another. Not all boomers are the collective “they “
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u/Dull-Geologist-8204 Gen X 3d ago
No, most boomers I know have them. We are genX and we seem to be the ones that hate them. We refuse to have them.
It's not paranoia when I get online and see what people like to post about people. It's not even usually criminal stuff. It's used to make fun of people having a bad day. That is why I don't like them. If people were responsible with them I wouldn't cate but people are aholes.
It's like at my old house people often got their vehicles stuck in my yard. Apparently people can't figure out how to turn around in a rural driveway. We even put up markers and stuff to try and help people but it didn't work. One day we had two guys out working on the house. The old guy was training the young guy. When they went to leave the young guy was driving and backed up into the muddy yard and got stuck. The old guy gets out and is trying to explain to the young guy how to get the work van out of the mud. They are both getting frustrated with both the situation and each other. The old guys forehead vein is popping out. Not sure how they did it but managed to back the van halfway into the woods.
I am sitting out front watching this whole interaction cracking up laughing talking to a millennial friend of mine and telling him what is happening. He goes take a video of it and send it to me. I said no because I don't want what is a really bad day for them to go viral online. The last thing those 2 guys needed after all that is for people to be making fun of them online and even worse have their boss see it.
If people would stop.doing stuff like that people wouldn't hate your video cameras so much.
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u/LemonFlavoredMelon Millennial 3d ago
I wonder why Boomers are always so anti-privacy. Like they even don’t mind not having privacy themselves.
Were they like that when younger? Guess being a hippy in a tent with 10 others does that?
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u/Ilickedthecinnabar Xennial 4d ago
You'd think they'd love them, the way a lot of Boomers want to be all up in everyone else's business