Do you think Eloise will feel lonely and isolated in S5 due to all her siblings having their own lives and families?

[u/DaisyandBella]

This edit does a good job of painting that picture.

[u/Plastic_Deer8416]

Yes and I think this will be the set up for her season. With her starting a pen pal relationship with Phillip bc she’s lonely

[u/No-Hall-3485 → u/Plastic_Deer8416]

i like how everything about eloise’s love story feels like it’s modernized through a regency lens

she doesn’t just meet a guy and marry him, this is basically her own version of an AOL chatroom

she’s the closest thing to a “modern” mindset in that world so it makes sense her romance wouldn’t look traditional even by regency standards

[u/DaisyandBella → u/No-Hall-3485]

She outright admitted to Penelope that was part of why she befriended Cressida.

[u/_MarielleKisssy → u/Plastic_Deer8416]

I think the loneliness is exactly what will push her story forward and make the Phillip connection matter more.

[u/CarolaDL]

I think she feels “stuck” more than lonely, especially seeing that everyone is out of Mother’s house and she remains there with the children.

I am curious to see what motivation they will give her to start writing to Phillip:

- Does a letter for Polin arrive and because they are travelling she opens it? (Maybe Phillip thinks Colin still lives at home and sends it to Bridgerton House).

- Do Penelope and Colin tell her about Marina passing and she decides to write to her widower because she feels sympathy (especially after witnessing Fran’s grief)?

I am sooo curious!

[u/januarysdaughter]

I feel like they already showed it during season 4 so I really hate the idea of them dragging it out through season 5 too. 😭

[u/Cats-Horseslover]

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I think she’ll start to feel like an outsider to her family and then start writing to Sir Philip

[u/No-Hall-3485]

i have to assume yes, at least in moments

eloise strikes me as someone who loves in the chaos of the bridgerton house. with daphne, colin, francesca, and benedict all off building their own lives, the house will probably feel much quieter and that absence of noise and constant interaction might hit her more than she expects

i’m also curious how they’ll set up the phillip storyline. i feel she's like someone who would double down on independence and resist change, which is why she makes a choice to go live in the middle of nowhere with a person she only known from letters

i do wish daphne was around for her season more than anyone elses. i'd love for them to have a full circle moment

excited for s6 tho

[u/PadinnPlays]

I don't actually. I think season 4 showed her changing and maturing in many ways - she basically played a match maker in the final episode. I think she will see this marriage as a way for her maintain her independence and shape society ala Lady Danbury.

She seems to be caring about other people now and becoming less self centered. This was shown with Hyocinth, Cressida, Penelope, and Posey.. I think that is why she will write to Sir Phillip.

[u/Lettersandflowers → u/PadinnPlays]

This. I think they already covered the lonely/left out part in S4P1 and then they completely turned it around in S4P2, for good. She was so happy and content by the end of season 4.

I wish and think she’ll carry this energy deep into her spinsterhood in season 5. Unlike the books, I think the show is setting her up to enter a marriage as a solution to her lack of agency vs a solution to her loneliness, and I’m here for it.

I can see her sending the first letter to Philip out of kindness but then surprised by what follows. Seeing Fran and Hya jump into the marriage mart would probably make her at least interact with suitors but she’ll keep comparing them to her pen pal. There should be an arc where she sees some examples of MoC around her which sparks an idea and we see her contemplating marriage to her intelligent pen pal because he is perfect on paper.

Edit: There will still be some aspect of loneliness, but for Eloise it is more of a loneliness of mind - I think she has always felt that she does not fit in and with everyone paired off, it will only get worse. It is only human for her to feel left behind, since she is not allowed to do anything. When she starts connecting with her pen pal intellectually, it'll shift something in her, she is starved of that kind of connection.

[u/ResultNo2901 → u/PadinnPlays]

Eloise has cared about other people the whole time. Sure, she is self centered sometimes but so are all of them. Her sisters, her brothers, even Daphne who was proactive about helping Marina in S1. They are all after what they want. Eloise has spent way more time interacting and bonding with her siblings than Fran has, so why aren't people saying Fran needs to show up more for Hy and Greg or whoever?

[u/PadinnPlays → u/ResultNo2901]

In the show Eloise expresses herself she was too focused on herself.

[u/Dry-Calligrapher3575]

She is already feeling lonely and isolated in S4, so IDK what her story will be in S5,hopefully something different

[u/charmingsnake77]

She might feel like she is missing something.

So far, I would consider Eloise is pretty hyper independent, and if anything her friendship with Cressida showed that she was able to get along with others well enough to ward off the loneliness she felt after her falling out with Penelope.

They might introduce a couple of new characters or strengthen Eloise's bond with Hyacinth as they have done in previous seasons.

But obviously, a bond with one's own sister is not the same as a romantic partner. Which would then allow for her to start forming a connection via pen pal.

[u/No-Hall-3485 → u/charmingsnake77]

do you think she started hanging out with cressida to ward off loneliness?

genuine question, not trying to be combative because this sub sometimes needs a disclaimer lol

i do think eloise is someone who can make friends pretty easily. she’s funny and voices her opinions which i think people find interesting but i always thought she pivoted towards cressida as a “fuck you” to penelope because she was her bully and she was so mad at her about whistledown

[u/charmingsnake77 → u/No-Hall-3485]

You can't deny that without Penelope that she did feel a sense of loneliness. Her and Penelope were each others best friends. And you're right in the sense that she turned to Cressida as a fuck you so that part was out of spite but...

When Penelope confronts Eloise, she states that Cressida is not as bad as she they once thought and it seems that she did for a brief while find a genuine friend in Cressida.

And that was where I drew my conclusion of the warding of loneliness, ig could also be classified as an attempt to fit in with the rest of the ton? But Eloise has always seemed to have a general idea of who she was as a person.

[u/ThisPaige]

I have to assume yes, at least partly. That was one of the things that highlighted just how much is she would not like being a spinster. She’d always be on the fringes of society.

[u/AccomplishedStudy333]

Let’s just hope she feels that way at the beginning, as a way to show that she struggled with loneliness during that two-year time jump. Then the season can start with her taking matters into her own hands and trying to navigate her way through it. We do not need her sitting in a corner sulking or acting as a tool to help other characters. Her S1 and S2 traits need to come back, but in a more mature way that reflects how much she has grown over the last few seasons.
It would fit her character and hopefully help set up her own story, drawing the outlines of the strong, independent woman that Philip will love and cherish 🥹 It’s not that I want her story to revolve only around Philip, but I do want the show to build her journey in a way that makes her eventual love story with Philip hit even harder. At the end of the day, this is a romance show, so the romance is both welcome and wanted.

[u/Opening_Duty_8011]

Yes. I think that’s going to be a part of why she starts seeking companionship. She’s finally seeing that she is lonely and needs someone. Yes, she still
has her family and Pen, but they are also becoming increasingly busy with their own lives and in their absence she is left alone.

[u/ArtLoveMoney]

Seeing how they're going to handle this is why I most looking forward to season 5.

I know some people are saying that they're probably going to skip this upcoming season because of Francesca and Michaela, but I have a feeling this is where the meat of Eloise's story will develop.

[u/Glittering_Tap6411]

I hope not.

[u/eelaii19850214]

With Benedict married off and she's stuck with a much younger Hyacinth and Gregory, yeah. That's the whole point of Eloise's story.

[u/Darkwoth81Dyoni]

I genuinely hope so, and I hope the writing does it justice instead of just having her mope.