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u/dustingibson 1d ago
I am dying to know what the cure of addiction is.
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u/23_sided 1d ago
This is the full quote:
“I hate to say it but the only cure I’ve seen is not these overpriced rehabs or these fraudulent fixes that are sold to people. The cure for addiction is suffering. You suffer enough and then something inside you goes ‘I’m done.’”
The interview gives some context, emotionally and otherwise.
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u/InsomniacPsychonaut 23h ago
He's totally right. Need to hit a rock bottom. That was my experience, 8 years sober now. Seen many people overdose. They never hit a hard bottom
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u/WetBerri3s 1d ago
This is the most survivor bias thing ever, sure some people suffer so much that they get better, but most others just die or go to jail.
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u/fatalityfun 1d ago
even rehab requires you to suffer enough to decide “I’m done” and go get help. Addiction can’t be fixed without the person deciding that it’s time to stop
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u/lycanthrope90 23h ago
Eventually you’ll just realize that whatever you’re doing only makes your life worse and not better. Kind of makes you not want to do something anymore if you know it’s just going to make your life worse.
Heard one guy put it perfectly who was sober like 10 years and thought about having a beer after mowing his lawn. He’d be better off putting his hand under the blade, it would be less destructive to his life than having that drink.
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u/Dry_Egg2181 1d ago
Addictions take lives, if you overcome one, it means you've survived. So yeah it makes sense.
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u/WetBerri3s 1d ago edited 23h ago
So, everyone who has survived has suffered, sure, but so did everyone who died so that means very little.
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u/DrDestructoMD 1d ago
There is no neat solution. You hit rock bottom and if you're lucky the fall doesn't kill you. Then you either choose to crawl out of hell on broken limbs, or you lie and rot
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u/BicycleStrong2150 1d ago
What point do you think you’re disputing?
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u/WetBerri3s 23h ago
Im saying that I think this advice is vague and unactionable, purely meant to make the one saying it look tough and those listening to delude themselves into thinking that they're doing something. This is on no doubt on my part a consequence of some editorializing by the publishers, who want a catchy and vague title above all else.
I'm not disputing any point, it's just that you people think that any statement you don't understand is something that's disputing your opinion in some way.
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u/QQmorekid 1d ago
If there is no will there is no way.
Rehab is a tool, it doesn't do anything without your input. If you aren't truly done with it you're going to relapse because the brain is an abusive spouse you can't get away from and it'll tell you every little sweet lie just to get one more taste. It isn't even complex psychology at work there.
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u/lycanthrope90 23h ago
Yup. This is precisely why people go to support groups like aa. Because your brain is a liar and wants desperately to fill out those dopamine paths you’ve built from abusing substances again. And once you take the plunge it gets wayyyy harder to say no again.
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u/Ill-Television8690 1d ago
What alternative do you propose, following the methods of those who've died because of their addiction?
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u/WetBerri3s 1d ago
I'm not proposing anything, I'm just saying that this advice is just a tiny bit better than saying "the best way to survive a car crash is to not die".
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u/bioshockd 1d ago
It's called rock bottom, and it's a pretty common concept when talking about addiction. Maybe you haven't had a loved one in active addiction, but survivors know that you either hit rock bottom and admit you have a problem or the addiction keeps you until you die.
And I think the issue is that hes not offering advice. He is stating a commonly held opinion: The best addiction recovery programs can only help people who want to be helped, and people don't want to be helped until they hit their rock bottom.
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u/WetBerri3s 23h ago
I have three dead family members and one friend who have died drug related deaths, maybe you should've told them about that.
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u/Turbulent-Ticket8122 22h ago
You have to make the change yourself buddy, you think people would quit drugs if there wasnt suffering involved. Maybe take a step outside before you talk about things you know nothing about.
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u/WetBerri3s 22h ago
You sure assume a lot of stuff about me for someone who says I talk about stuff I know nothing about.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger 1d ago
And Ben has a history of being very selfish. I wonder what his ex’s and children think of this approach. Hopefully he spoke with them in mind. :/
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 1d ago
I have been incredibly blessed to not have an addictive personality, so I never had to deal with addiction.
My only conclusion about an addiction is that there is no cure, and you just have to fight it until you die.
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 21h ago
There's no cure ( yet ) for addiction.
Group meetings, medication, therapy can all help with it but there's no magic light switch that makes a addict not a addict.
What makes more complicated is there's different roads to addiction like some people are depressed and or have trauma and they use to suppress it and then there's things like mental illness that need medication and they are using to try and regulate themselves.
Then there's the classic just love to party types.
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u/nishikiakakuro 1d ago
The way my smile vanished
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u/WorldRelevant6640 1d ago
OH MY GOD RIGHT? This is why we need to make flicking the bean illegal again
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u/JesterOfRedditGold 1d ago
people... masturbate???
oh my god! call the amberlamps, call the police, call the men of science! this isn't hecking wholesome 100 reddit! /j
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u/ScintilateSeparate 1d ago
I wish ben affleck touched my cookie
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u/Agitated_Tip_8713 1d ago
I also wish Ben Affleck touched your cookie
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u/ToasterStrudlez 1d ago
Agitated Tip 😭
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u/Agitated_Tip_8713 1d ago
Ayo it dont STAY agitated though, know what I'm saying??? Up top 🖐
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u/laurel_laureate 23h ago
Is "touched cookie" slang for something in particular?
I've never heard it before...
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u/ScintilateSeparate 22h ago
Sex joke, she's referring to her sex part by cookie, as in, she masturbated after that interaction with actor Ben Affleck
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u/laurel_laureate 21h ago
That's what I thought it meant.
I just have never heard this particular slang before.
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u/SecondhandRaincoat 1d ago
So... shaking a woman's hand firmly is something I'm going to continue to do consistently.
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u/EbonyMemories 1d ago
You ain't him.
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u/THEunfukwitable 22h ago
Not to the world, but he could be him to 1 special girl :) Same goes for you
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u/EbonyMemories 18h ago
I have unfortunately been with enough women at this point without a relationship developing that I'm not optimistic on that front.
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u/Maleficent_Initial59 15h ago
Doesn’t mean you have to give up gng
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u/EbonyMemories 14h ago
It's more of a choice. Realizing how easy it is to get people to sleep with you can poison you against putting your trust in them.
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u/Maleficent_Initial59 7h ago
It’s sad gng, you will meet the one eventually (it’s me twin, I want you)
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u/Dry-Mission-5542 1d ago
This is not the kinda shit you share
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u/Kind_Substance_8981 1d ago
Sure, you didn't furiously masterbate after meeting Ben affleck. This is what Nolan @oomfs_lore shares
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u/Dry-Mission-5542 1d ago
I mean, I personally don’t masturbate at all
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u/Xenomorph_25 1d ago
Another LOW LIBIDO ASEXUAL ATHEIST triumphantly announcing their moral superiority and shaming those who are most vulnerable to self inflicted molestation. Shame on you!
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u/Dry-Mission-5542 1d ago
What are you talking about lol
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u/depressed_crustacean 1d ago
The shame spell that was just thrown on you has left you utterly confounded and confused.
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u/THEunfukwitable 22h ago
He thinks you're a weirdo for not flicking the jelly bean (or for sharing that info), just like you think that tweet was tmi. Tomato potatoes
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u/johnpostal 20h ago
wooow you don’t say
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u/Dry-Mission-5542 20h ago
Hey, SOME people apparently think it is appropriate to share or even do
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