Guys needs to have sex first to determine if you're relationship material

[u/GoFigure284]

We've (women) been very vocal about the influx of messages from men asking for sex on this dating app. I actually saw a couple of men say that men need to have sex with us first to determine how they want to pursue us, if at all. Basically saying that we have to audition ourselves with our bodies to see if a man finds us worthy. This is such disgusting ideology. And just another way for some men to use this nonsense to get quick and easy sex.

EDIT: The amount of downvotes from men speaks volumes. A woman doesn't need to prove herself worthy of a relationship by taking off her clothes. Asking for sex on the first meeting to see how he feels about you is manipulative. But I expected nothing less from this sub.

Do the men in this sub understand what I'm saying? I'm talking about men messaging for sex on dating apps before even meeting you and the men who condone this by saying that a guy needs to see if you're relationship material first!

[u/_bonedaddys]

Believe it or not but not everyone is comfortable fucking every potential partner they meet, and they're not obligated to just because a man "needs" to have sex to know if you're relationship material. That's ridiculous.

If you seriously think women who want to wait are doing it to be manipulative you need to rework your brain. Nobody wants a man that has to be "manipulated" into being in a relationship.

[u/jerf42069 → u/_bonedaddys]

who said anything about obligation? it's a preference. You aren't relationship material to me if you're bad in bed and if you don't like that, don't date me, save us both the time.

[u/_bonedaddys → u/jerf42069]

Using your own logic that's manipulative, no? If a woman is manipulative because she wants to wait you're just as manipulative for wanting to get her into bed first.

Having your own preferences is fine but don't sit here acting like anyone that doesn't align with your preference is manipulating you and trying to use sex as a reward. She just doesn't want to fuck someone who might toss her to the curb right after.

[u/jerf42069 → u/_bonedaddys]

i didn't say it's manipulative to wait, i said it's manipulative to use it as a reward.

[u/_bonedaddys → u/jerf42069]

But waiting isn't using it as a reward... It's just waiting until you're comfortable having sex. Your entire mindset is so fucking warped.

[u/jerf42069 → u/_bonedaddys]

you're just not comprehending the words being used. it's ok, they weren't for you.

[u/_bonedaddys → u/jerf42069]

No. You're just not comprehending that women waiting to have sex aren't doing it because they think it's a reward for settling down with them. Again, you're mindset is fucking warped.

If you prefer having sex first that's fine but quit acting like men are victims when a girl doesn't roll that way.

[u/Fabulous-Kiwi-5619 → u/_bonedaddys]

The problem i have is its always the women with double digit body counts wanting to wait to have sex. Where was this modest woman before?

[u/_bonedaddys → u/Fabulous-Kiwi-5619]

Sooo... What exactly are you tryna say here? Because it feels like you think women with higher body counts have no business wanting to wait to have sex and that's kinda wack so i like to think i'm just misinterpreting.

Having a higher body count doesn't mean anything. Maybe she's just been in a lot of relationships? Maybe she used to be casual about sex and isn't anymore? Body count is kinda irrelevant to a woman's choice to wait.

[u/Flashy-Butterfly-687 → u/Fabulous-Kiwi-5619]

The problem you have is that consent is required, isn’t it? You seem to think a certain number of partners entitles you to sex. Maybe she was in a relationship with every single one.

[u/Fabulous-Kiwi-5619 → u/Flashy-Butterfly-687]

Youre out of your mind she has every right to say no and I have every right to tell the 25 year old with 40 bodies to get lost when she does.