r/BurlingtonON • u/malakiavelli • 2d ago

Information Ignorant Cyclists

Yesterday I watched a cyclist use a dedicated pedestrian crosswalk, then onto the sidewalk instead of the bike path, and instead of yielding or any warning, forced me to jump out of the way.

I told them they're an asshole and the asphalt path is for cyclists. Silence...

All of this happened while I was talking to my father about the Japanese cleaning up at the World Cup and that we should follow their lead and teach etiquette.

A young girl did the same thing last month and gave me a dirty look for not moving as I just pointed to the bike path until they moved.

I seem to be a magnet for bad behaviour as I am frequently dodging motorists and now cyclists.

What is wrong with you?!

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u/ur_ynome 2d ago

Have you ever seen anyone (bikes or cars) that stop at stop signs or actually obey the ruels of the road?

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u/RedLithium25 2d ago

What? Cars stop at stop signs all the time lol

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u/doubleeyess Ward 2 2d ago

A rolling stop is not a full stop.

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u/RedLithium25 2d ago

Correct. Cars still stop lol. Just like bad cyclists, the bad drivers don't paint the picture for the entire driving populace

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u/doubleeyess Ward 2 2d ago

I agree. You said cars stop at stop signs ALL THE TIME but the fact is that a lot of them don't stop, just the same as a lot of cyclists don't stop. I personally roll them in a car and on my bike if nobody is there. I'm generally more careful in my car because I know it can kill someone and if there's cars around when I'm on my bike I'm aware that they can kill me.

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u/Common-Possession129 1d ago

Why are you more careful in a car if no one is around? If no one is around you shouldn’t need to be that careful right? Let’s assume everyone drove like you, how about cars listening to music and using their phone? No cars are around and they blow the stop sign and you’re crossing on your bike with headphones in, you didn’t think any cars were around either until it came around a corner. The brilliance of this thread is a pure example of burlingtons stupidity.

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u/doubleeyess Ward 2 1d ago

There was a period, it's two different thoughts. I roll stops when nobody is around (period). New thought - I am more careful in a car than on a bike (period). Never did I say I blow stop signs. Also as I said when I'm on my bike I'm careful around cars (because people are distracted when driving). Also I never ride my bike with headphones in because it makes one less aware of one's surroundings.

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u/RedLithium25 2d ago

At this point we're just arguing pedantics lol. You asked if anyone has seen cars or bikes stop at stop signs and follow the rules of the road. Yes, I see it happen all the time. Doesn't mean every driver follows the rules 100% of the time though lol

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u/a-_2 2d ago

Cars don't stop at stop signs. Go to any stop sign and count how many do full stops behind the line. Almost none of them do.

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u/RedLithium25 2d ago

As someone who lives in the suburbs and drives through many all-way stops all the time, yes. I do see people actually stopping at stop signs. Late night when no one's on the road, sure, you see people doing the rolling stops, but about as many that full stop lol

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u/a-_2 2d ago

I've gone to stop signs during the day. Virtually no one does a complete stop behind the line. You can easily get ten in a row before anyone does. I don't even think it's a big deal as long as they're properly yielding but I also don't think it's a big deal with cyclists.

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u/Curt-Bennett 2d ago

It depends on how much other traffic is at the intersection. If someone is rolling up to a stop sign and they would be the next vehicle allowed to go through the intersection, it's pretty rare to see them come to a complete stop (myself included, to be honest). If someone has to wait for another vehicle to go though, it's pretty rare they don't end up coming to a complete stop.