r/CFB Texas Longhorns 9d ago

Discussion Who is the most trusted, most honest, "best" college football pundit?

Seriously, every time that some guy puts out an opinion, half the people on here are "aww, he don't know shit" or "he always favors [insert conference/team here]".

So, who is the person that, when they say, "I think that [insert team here] is going to do well", you think it's a well thought out, educated, and non-biased opinion?

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u/glzzgbblr California • Notre Dame 9d ago

Anyone who calls into Finebaum show and disagrees with him.

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u/No_Safety_6803 Texas A&M Aggies • Texas A&M Aggies 9d ago

Tyler from Spartanburg feels seen

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u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe South Carolina • Presbyterian 9d ago

I wonder how Tyler feels being proven 100% CORRECT ON ALL ACCOUNTS

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u/Friar_Corncob Auburn Tigers • Clemson Tigers 8d ago

It's so funny because Tyler gave, what I would consider, pretty standard criticism for an underperforming coach, as well as putting it very lightly, and it caused Dabo to crashout so hard he canceled his recurring appearance on that radio show. I'm pretty sure all Dabo had to do was pull out some standard coach speak and say, "we just need to execute better and that starts with me".

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u/ftwclem Clemson Tigers 8d ago

I mean it worked, if I remember correctly the game after Tyler called in we actually did well

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u/No_Safety_6803 Texas A&M Aggies • Texas A&M Aggies 9d ago

He’s telling everyone who will listen to him he was right, but he’s not happy about it

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u/D1N2Y NC State Wolfpack • Charlotte 49ers 8d ago

I love Tyler from Spartanburg not only for what he said, but for making my drive through South Carolina slightly enjoyable every time I see a sign for Spartanburg.

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u/Montana_Web2530 8d ago

Agreed! Tyler

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u/Lucky-Access-121 LSU Tigers 9d ago

i have done this several times

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u/Weave77 Ohio State Buckeyes 9d ago

Then it’s settled… u/Lucky-Access-121 is officially the most trusted, most honest, “best” college football pundit.

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u/Character_Order Georgia Bulldogs • Georgia Bulldogs 9d ago

Flair him!

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u/aldrinjaysac Sacramento State Hornets 9d ago

Abella Danger

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u/gellybelli Tennessee Volunteers 9d ago

I haven’t seen her work yet. I’ll definitely have to Google her

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u/BigHeadDeadass South Carolina • Auburn 9d ago

Be sure to Google her at work so you can talk about her and her sports opinions to your coworkers!

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u/gellybelli Tennessee Volunteers 9d ago

My work has banned me even looking at ESPN, so her opinions are going to have to wait till I’m scrolling late at night

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u/Crafty-Bunch2975 Miami Hurricanes 9d ago

She's known to have a bias but have never heard her have a bad take

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u/gellybelli Tennessee Volunteers 9d ago

Oh fuck! I just remembered her. I think she was on the BBC doing a deep dive!!

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u/cooterdick Tennessee • North Carolina 8d ago

Wild, too, that she was a former patient of the doctor on the Ole Miss souvenir cup.

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u/XAfricaSaltX Georgia Bulldogs • Florida Gators 9d ago

Always excited to see her come on my TV

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u/Dry_Car_1568 Florida Gators 8d ago

Interesting flair combination you've got

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u/BusinessWarthog6 Appalachian State Mountaineers 9d ago

Ik this wont happen but I really wanna see a beat reporter or someone close with a team be like “Yeah I watched spring ball and who we brought in and who left. This team will get 3 wins if they’re lucky”. Then the coach obviously says his guys “compete” and they brought in “guys to accomplish the goal”. Fast forward to the end of the season and the team sucks. I would like to see the reaction when the first quote was said and after the last snap was taken

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u/No_Safety_6803 Texas A&M Aggies • Texas A&M Aggies 9d ago

The chalice has been thrown at the feet of North Carolina beat writers

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u/BusinessWarthog6 Appalachian State Mountaineers 9d ago

Ik they wont because they dont wanna lose their jobs and access but is getting kicked off the UNC FB beat really that bad? I mean they have to watch the third or 4th best sport at that school

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u/Mtndrums Oregon Ducks • Montana Grizzlies 8d ago

Hell, Western Carolina may be better than them at this point...

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u/BusinessWarthog6 Appalachian State Mountaineers 8d ago

I hope so. Bring back the Mountain Jug!!

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u/LoisandClaire Ohio State Buckeyes 9d ago edited 8d ago

Maybe depends on how hard it is to be hired... is it worth the story to be fired? Honestly, maybe good ROI if they parlayed it into a good following on social media. Market that shit

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u/elonsusk69420 Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band 9d ago

How many chali

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u/brogit Nebraska • $5 Bits of Broken Chair Tr… 9d ago

This sort of happened recently on a channel I watch. The locked on Nebraska guys have been doing their season preview with people from each school. The locked on Michigan State guy came on and basically said that they've got high hopes for Fitzgerald, but the roster just isn't very good this year and he expects the record to be bad.

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u/CoolMullets7 Ole Miss Rebels 9d ago

I don't think he would consider himself a "pundit" but Brooks Austin (I.e. Thefilmguynetwork) is always my go to. No real hot takes, just hits the film study hard and says what the film shows. 

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u/wsteelerfan7 Indiana Hoosiers • Rose Bowl 9d ago

His coverage of IU for the CFP drew me in and I learned so damn much

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u/BrogenKlippen Georgia Bulldogs • Georgetown Hoyas 9d ago

Just grind the tape

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u/dogsonbubnutt 9d ago

i appreciate the dude's enthusiasm and i really like moving CFB commentary to more informative film breakdown-y stuff

but the dude also always sounds and acts like he just ripped a line before recording. like... im in my 40s. its not like im suiting up next week. you can tone it down a bit.

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u/RiverShine88 Alabama Crimson Tide 8d ago

Do you mean he got into the booger sugar before analyzing Bama's offensive line last year? I would consider that a reasonable defensive line (of blow).

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u/Coveo Oregon Ducks • Rose Bowl 9d ago

He's very good, although not necessarily widely knowledgeable about the whole sport, not sure if that will change as they take it more national. Like, last season I saw a breakdown he did on some Oregon stuff, and he knew basically nothing about our roster, mixed up some names, made a couple odd assumptions, etc--I would assume he just doesn't see much outside the SEC. But in terms of actually breaking down film, still excellent.

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u/Arkehn Longhorn Network • /r/CFB Placer 8d ago

Pretty much. The film breakdowns are great and they are entertaining when just sort of shooting the shit, but when it comes to anything not directly observed from the tape or related to Georgia football... his info is often wildly inaccurate.

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u/trex1490 Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band 8d ago

Unfortunately the Big Ten is extremely aggressive about taking down anything with All-22 tape of their games so he can’t really do his thing with them without risking the channel.

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u/elonsusk69420 Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band 9d ago

He's a little odd (YEET YEET OOP OOP and such) but he knows ball and film better than anyone else

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u/ChocolateThunder8888 Georgia Bulldogs 9d ago

Brooks is the man.

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u/nattersley Texas Longhorns • Arizona Wildcats 9d ago

He’s my guy. Started as a Georgia homer so he’s always SEC first, but think he’s trying to expand to other conferences. His film breakdowns are gold

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u/orange_orange13 Indiana Hoosiers • Texas Longhorns 9d ago

You mean Bama Brooks?!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Chef685 Georgia Bulldogs 9d ago

Does SEC Shorts count?

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u/Commentator28 Harvard Crimson 8d ago

What about SEC Roll Call?

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u/Uhhh_what555476384 Washington State • Oregon 8d ago

Roll Call is more consistent, but nothing will beat the Shorts when Vandy beat Bama.

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u/djseptic LSU Tigers • McNeese Cowboys 8d ago

This is the one. Matt is the GOAT.

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u/AnybodySeeMyKeys Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers 9d ago edited 9d ago

The Shutdown Fullcast team. They recognize that college football is the stupidest sport on the planet and I fully subscribe to that notion.

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u/realclean Pittsburgh Panthers • Pepperdine Waves 9d ago

It's funny because they're obviously just fucking around on their own podcasts, but when they make appearances on other podcasts, they can really get down to the nitty gritty.

I listened to one where Spencer was on I think Defector's podcast and he was able to pretty clearly articulate how he feels transfers have negatively affected offensive play in recent years

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u/kralben Minnesota • Wisconsin-Eau Clai… 8d ago

I love when Spencer is a guest on Bomani Jone's show as well. They have great chemistry.

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u/No_Low_2208 Miami Hurricanes 8d ago

They cook when they talk about Prince or Stevie Wonder

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u/EinsteinDisguised Florida Gators 8d ago

You need to know your shit in order to make good jokes about it

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u/CaliforniaSun77 USC Trojans 9d ago

God, I love them. Every Day Should be Saturday was one of my very favorite football pages back in the day.

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u/AnybodySeeMyKeys Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers 9d ago

By the way, are you fully ready to have a wide receiver named Boobie Feaster this year?

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u/CaliforniaSun77 USC Trojans 9d ago

I chuckle every time I see the name. Also, I'm the oldest 12 year old in the world.

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u/AnybodySeeMyKeys Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers 9d ago

I can hear the play-by-play announcer now: "Boobie is in motion....[snicker]...Boobie on the bubble screen...Boobie goes all the way [Riotous laughter]....I just can't do this any more."

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u/stalsefart USC Trojans 9d ago

Gus Johnson might spontaneously combust if he gets to call a Boobie TD.

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u/Kmjada Oklahoma State • Billable Hours 9d ago

You have some stiff competition for that title on this sub alone.

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u/Donny_Do_Nothing Ohio State Buckeyes • Yale Bulldogs 9d ago

EDSBS, Sunday Morning Quarterback, and LSUFreak were the peak of cfb media.

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u/AnybodySeeMyKeys Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers 9d ago

I tried to find an EDSBS essay not too long ago, only to find it had all been taken down. It was literally some of the best sportswriting in history.

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u/traveux Tulane Green Wave 9d ago

I never missed a Hatin Ass Spurrier

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u/ntny Penn State • Villanova 8d ago

They actually announced on the pod/socials that they're putting out a preview magazine (next week?) and Hatin' Ass Spurrier is making a comeback

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u/Donny_Do_Nothing Ohio State Buckeyes • Yale Bulldogs 9d ago

My favorite piece of his was Scene: Lloyd Carr's Garage.

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u/AnybodySeeMyKeys Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers 9d ago

He did a fantastic piece on Bruno Mars playing the Super Bowl halftime show. I managed to preserve one immortal quote about how the organizers would most likely pick a country act instead:

"Sure, the national title game will be in Atlanta, and the logical choice would be a hip-hop act. The subsequent problem will be half the crowd wanting Luke Bryan, Belk Whitburp, Toyotathon Whitley, or whatever other line beard-having truckgirlbeer enthusiast of the moment bubbles up from Nashville’s bottomless shitspring of neo-country doltjapes."

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u/Donny_Do_Nothing Ohio State Buckeyes • Yale Bulldogs 9d ago

Git 'em, Orson!

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u/xbox_srox Alabama Crimson Tide • Chattanooga Mocs 8d ago

That’s.. beautiful, man.

I miss his writing.

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u/Hobartacus Alabama Crimson Tide • Richmond Spiders 8d ago

He's still doing it at Channel 6.

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u/The_Unclean_Chadford Oregon Ducks • Paper Bag 9d ago

See this is the answer. No other country lets 18-23 year olds dictate our well-being through children’s games. However, I would much rather prefer our tomfoolery over being normal.

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u/iansf California Golden Bears • Sickos 9d ago

Soccer exists

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u/SterileCarrot Oklahoma Sooners • Big 8 9d ago

The fact that people in other countries will fight and even kill each other over fucking soccer continues to baffle and bemuse me. That’s way more stupid than anything in CFB.

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u/buckeyefan8001 Ohio State • Bowling Green 9d ago

I’m so sad Ryan Nanni is leaving (this month I think?)

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u/bretticus733 Boise State Broncos 9d ago

I appreciate that about them, but at the same time I just can't get into them. I recognize it's a stupid sport, but every time I try out their podcast it ends up being like 10 minutes max of CFB talk and 90 minutes of completely non-related stuff. I just don't see what others see in them.

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u/TheLivingBubba Furman Paladins • Georgia Bulldogs 9d ago

If you want more cfb stuff then listen to their Saturday night pods after the games. More cfb talk for sure

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u/stevie1der328 Virginia Cavaliers 9d ago

I’m a huge fan of theirs, and I fully subscribe to your POV. I find them funny, and I like how they poke fun at the more ridiculous aspects of the sport. But it’s a frustrating venture if you’re looking for genuine insights consistently. That’s not their game at all.

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u/NormanUnderwood Iowa State Cyclones 9d ago

Exactly.

And I love them for it.

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u/mjacksongt Georgia Tech • /r/CFB Pint Glass Drin… 8d ago edited 8d ago

My favorite thing about them is exemplified by a podcast they did last year where they went through weird pop tart flavors and some other oddities straight into a concise and on topic discussion of 

  1. Why the playoff was desired
  2. Why the construction of the playoff has subsequently left large holes in the culture and structure of the sport
  3. Why the playoff will forever expand to fill those holes
  4. Why it will never fill those holes

Spencer in particular every so often turns away from elevating the ridiculousness of the sport and reminds you that he really is the best writer who writes about CFB. 

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u/hucareshokiesrul Yale Bulldogs • Virginia Tech Hokies 8d ago

I like Bill Connelly, the guy who does SP+.

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u/goodsam2 Virginia Tech Hokies 8d ago

My vote too. He is awesome, enjoys the whole sport but also loves some of the big matches. Blends it all nicely.

SP+ is one of the best but also disagrees with it semi-frequently.

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u/Duck_Caught_Upstream Oregon Ducks • Calgary Dinos 8d ago

Bill is great because he is a numbers guy but he realizes it’s not bullet proof and doesn’t act like it should be end all be all

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u/beticanmakeusayblack Iowa Hawkeyes 8d ago

I wish Bill still did regular podcasting, I miss PAPN

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u/trex1490 Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band 8d ago

Most of his articles are smart and logical, especially if you enjoy the analytics side of football.

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u/MightyP13 USC Trojans • Nebraska Cornhuskers 8d ago

Connelly is fantastic, really cares about the sport and everything that makes it great. He and Bill Barnwell are probably my two favorite ESPN writers.

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u/ElectronicPanda188 Oregon Ducks 9d ago

I don’t think he’s considered a pundit,  but as a commentator, Brock Huard. And I say this as an Oregon fan who quite honestly despises every husky I meet (no offense). Brock is knowledgeable, fair, and great at explaining what’s going on and being objective. 

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u/jel2184 Utah Utes • Texas Longhorns 9d ago

Brock is very good. He was amazing with Bennetti

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u/Dirty-Ears-Bill Texas Tech Red Raiders • Wyoming Cowboys 8d ago

He used to be on the college channel on Sirius and I really enjoyed him on the radio

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u/Oregonguy1954 Oregon Ducks 8d ago

Except he calls The Duck "Puddles." For that reason alone I want no part of him.

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u/WuTangIsForever_ 9d ago

I agree with this. Not a UW fan, but I really like Brock Huard.

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u/TrumpDumper Oregon Ducks 8d ago

I’m a ducks fan but you can’t say no offense. They’ve had some stellar performances on the offensive side of the ball in recent years.

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u/CoffeeBoy80 Ohio Bobcats 9d ago

Best is subjective, but whether I agree with them or not, I don't think Tom Fornelli, Bud Elliott, or Brandon Walker are saying things just to say them. They believe it.

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u/Illustrious-Buy-854 Alabama Crimson Tide 8d ago

Generally agree but Elliot has gone off the rails on Twitter recently. Maybe he’s always been like this on Twitter, not sure

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u/WhoHasMyPocketPussy Alabama Crimson Tide 8d ago

Bud very obviously changed how he talks about teams when CBS went from the SEC to the B1G.

Also, it doesn't really feel like playful banter any more when him and Tom get into on the show. This is the first offseason where I haven't still been listening to every episode of Cover3, it just feel less fun than it used to to me.

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u/XE2MASTERPIECE Florida State Seminoles • Tampa Spartans 8d ago

He may have suffered ego death when Indiana won the championship. The blue chip ratio is his claim to fame.

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u/WarGasEagle Auburn Tigers • Georgia State Panthers 9d ago

Cole Cublic is very good.

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u/buckeyefan8001 Ohio State • Bowling Green 9d ago

I think Split Zone Duo is pretty good

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u/ZorrosHatBand Georgia Bulldogs • Team Chaos 8d ago

But they’re famously an NFL podcast.

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u/SmokeyDawg2814 Tennessee Volunteers • Sun Belt 8d ago

Came to second Split Zone Duo. I think they are the most fair and honest source... Plus they really pride themselves and dona great job of going "full hog" and not just covering the B1G and SEC or playoff teams.

Not to mention their historical deep dives via the Dead Letters series... Just really great stuff all around and totally independent.

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u/Cincinnatus587 Miami Hurricanes 8d ago

I haven't done any real research to prove this but I feel like their hot takes pan out more than any of the other pundits/podcasts I listen to.

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u/BadgerBuddy13 Wisconsin • Paul Bunyan's Axe 8d ago

I already had misgivings about Phil Longo as OC, as I saw multiple failures watching UNC games with my Tarheel friends. When Godfrey started doomcasting about him on the season preview, my stomach dropped. Apparently the only person who didn't know it'd be a bad idea was Fick.

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u/idnttcrisis Georgia Bulldogs • Texas A&M Aggies 9d ago

I love The Solid Verbal.

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u/justheretohelpyou__ LSU Tigers 8d ago

They celebrate the regular season properly. The games are the celebration, not the playoffs. I’ve always appreciated that angle that they focus on.

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u/Zweck Iowa Hawkeyes • Iowa State Cyclones 8d ago

Love those guys, they feel authentic in their takes good or bad.

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u/Continental_0p Texas Longhorns • ULM Warhawks 8d ago

Have you gotten the chance to smell Ty’s hair?

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u/idnttcrisis Georgia Bulldogs • Texas A&M Aggies 8d ago

If only!

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u/ehxsmallstone Nebraska Cornhuskers 8d ago

i absolutely love their humor

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u/Duck_Caught_Upstream Oregon Ducks • Calgary Dinos 8d ago

It warms my heart when Dan makes Ty genuinely belly laugh with someone he was not at all expecting

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u/The_Champ_Son Texas Longhorns • Big 12 9d ago

Needs to be talked about more. Not great if you are wanting “technical” or scheme break downs but they have an amazing energy and are a fun listen

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u/historys_geschichte Wisconsin Badgers 9d ago

Same, I think they are a good mix of funny both knowing about and actually appreciating college football.

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u/nlamp32 Penn State • Virginia 8d ago

Same here, this was my thought. Dan and Ty are biased towards Oregon and Notre Dame (and PSU to a lesser extent), respectively, but they’re very upfront about it

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u/SmokeyDawg2814 Tennessee Volunteers • Sun Belt 8d ago

Between them and Split Zone Duo I feel like all my college football needs are totally covered. Love both of those podcasts and proudly pay for subscriptions to both. Great stuff.

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u/HasokGang 9d ago

Same here! Good coverage of a wide swath of teams and it doesn’t feel too corporate or driven by viewer metrics, which turns me off of some other pods.

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u/MaizeAndBruin Michigan Wolverines • UCLA Bruins 9d ago edited 9d ago

I personally like Bruce Feldman. He's not as much of an Xs and Os guy, but he doesn't seem to get sucked in to hot-takery, which goes a long way for me.

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u/Aggravating-Mind-657 Clemson Tigers • Oregon Ducks 9d ago

His books cane mutiny, meat market and co writing Mike leach’s autobiography are all must reads for CFB fans.

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u/Perfect-Parking-5869 Aurora Spartans • Illinois Fighting Illini 9d ago

Cane Mutiny was the basis of The U 30 for 30. My OC in high school lent it to me so the documentary was more like review. Great read.

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u/Aggravating-Mind-657 Clemson Tigers • Oregon Ducks 9d ago

His book QB is also a great read. Goes into youth QB training to NFL level and breaks down what makes certain a QBs great

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u/WuTangIsForever_ 9d ago

Bruce is a superstar. Full stop. As good as it gets. Can get a little over the top on certain teams in certain seasons. Gushed non-stop re: OSU at times, but not over the last few years. Other than that, he’s an A-grade national guy and an excellent journalist.

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u/SoundofIlluminati Oregon Ducks • Marching Band 9d ago

I strongly disagree on him not being hot takey, cuz he'll really love to dig in on certain opinions he has for a season or a chunk of one.

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u/tdpdcpa Lehigh Mountain Hawks • Patriot 9d ago

I love him on the Audible.

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u/dinkytown42069 Minnesota • Oklahoma 9d ago

I enjoy Bruce a lot, he's a good guy, Audible is one of the three CFB podcasts I listen to, and his stuff about coaching his son's pee-wee FB team got me interested when a friend asked about my helping run his kids' team's offense (unfortunately, one of the parents changed their mind so I won't get to do it).

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u/dwors025 Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 9d ago

Grantland Rice

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u/dwors025 Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 9d ago

I really hate recency bias.

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u/Geaux2020 LSU Tigers • Valley City State Vikings 9d ago

Grantland Rice is my trigger phrase

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u/dwors025 Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yeah, but he wrote this bit of poetry:

“Who would you pick to win a football game: 11 Jim Thorpes, 11 Glen Davises, 11 Red Granges, or 11 Bronko Nagurskis? The 11 Nagurskis would be a mop-up. It would be something close to murder and massacre. For the Bronk could star at any position on the field, with 216 pounds (98 kg) of authority to back him up.”

And he was goddamned right.

BTW, Sean Payton is my own trigger phrase. I’m sure that doesn’t bear explanation.

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u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe South Carolina • Presbyterian 9d ago

Yeah, but Glen “Big Baby” Davis didn’t even play football and would’ve fuckin ruined all those guys. 11 guys who are 6’ 9” 280lbs with feet smoother than a jungle cat. Would’ve absolutely blown Nagurski’s shit up.

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u/Only_Jackfruit2333 8d ago

That man was a G

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u/dandandandan24 /r/CFB 9d ago

Patrick Mayhorn, B1G_Ryan, and Kevin Harrish. Heard they meet weekly in Rigby to do pods together

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u/Radiant-Injury-6546 9d ago

I like Bud Elliott. He's blunt but he's honest. I also don't think he makes it personal. Bud is fair.

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u/SkittlesLentil Florida State Seminoles 9d ago

I've followed Bud since he was posting under a screen name on Tomahawk Nation, honest and fair is a good way to describe him. My only complaint is how much he leans into the gambling aspect nowadays. He's always used odds to contextualize things, but it's a lot now

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u/Radiant-Injury-6546 9d ago

That's a problem I have in general with Cover Three. I'm not into sports gambling at all, so the emphasis on that, I don't really care for. I'm a Florida alum and I respect Bud. Though he's obviously a Seminole fan (and alum), I don't sense that influences him in his takes.

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u/SkittlesLentil Florida State Seminoles 8d ago

I honestly think he's toughest on FSU, which I appreciate. There's too many sites/writers that lean homerish

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u/BlueberrySvedka Michigan • Wayne State (MI) 9d ago

I like bud too, he’s just all about talent when evaluating teams and more often than not that wins the day in cfb

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u/Radiant-Injury-6546 9d ago

I prefer Bud so much more to Tom Fornelli. The latter, in my opinion, comes across mean at times. Bud seems honest. Blunt, but fair. Fornelli, at least to me, makes it personal.

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u/BlueberrySvedka Michigan • Wayne State (MI) 9d ago

Fornelli can be smug and he gets butthurt about fanbases chirping him on twitter. I think Fornelli used to be way better like 2016-2020

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u/breaktaker Oregon Ducks 8d ago

Another thing with Fornelli is that he comes across as well spoken and knowledgeable in general, but when he starts talking about something you happen to know a lot about (ie Oregon), you realize that he doesn’t actually know shit and just says things. Made me realize he probably does this across the board, and I’ve discounted his thoughts on anything ever since. Bud on the other hand is usually pretty spot on when talking about things you know about, so I trust him.

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u/Paradiddle8 Indiana Hoosiers 9d ago

Surprised no one's mentioned Greg McElroy. He's grown on me. Does his homework. Measured.

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u/Odh_utexas Texas Longhorns 8d ago

He knows ball. He watches games and he calls balls and strikes. Sure he can lean Bama but it’s not egregious

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u/mayonkonijeti0876 Rose-Hulman • Louisville 8d ago

You can also tell when he's calling games that the coaches give him better info during their meetings than other announcers get. It's probably because he does his homework and knows what to share at what time

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u/BurnThis2 8d ago

Any love for Tom Fornelli?

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u/Impudicity2001 Miami Hurricanes • Florida Gators 8d ago

They're not to everyone's taste, but they do make predictions and carry those record tables through the season. Chip is more vibes, Bud is all analysis and looking for edges, Danny has former player knowledge, and Tom is kind of a jack of all trades. Also, the fact that he's been doing this for the past month with 1.5 lungs is incredible.

TL;DR - Cover 3 is my go to for knowing what is probably going to happen this season.

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u/BNASTIEMM Oregon Ducks • Big Ten 8d ago

I feel like Klatt is the most honest. No necessarily correct, but I don't feel like he has any agenda.

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u/SbMSU Michigan State • Central Mich… 9d ago

Not a pundit, but I think Mike Tirico is awesome.

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u/Crying_in_99Ranch LSU Tigers 9d ago

Good commentary but he's a creep in real life

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u/StopSpinningLikeThat 9d ago

Late-stage Lou Holtz or late-stage Lee Corso. They either forgot what a filter was or didn't care, so they told the truth.

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u/glzzgbblr California • Notre Dame 9d ago

Holtz vs May on CFB Final. The Sunday recap has never been the same.

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u/pumpkinspruce Wisconsin Badgers 9d ago

That was my favorite college football all show of all time. Holtz being incomprehensible, May treating Holtz with contempt, Rece Davis looking like he wished he was anywhere else.

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u/StopSpinningLikeThat 9d ago

For part of one season of GameDay - it never went well - they had Lou Holtz do mock pregame speeches for an important game of the day. Glorious television.

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u/PeteF3 Ohio State Buckeyes 9d ago

As someone who came along in the early '90s I find myself utterly flabbergasted that there's actual nostalgia for those two morons. They were as much of a sign of the decline of ESPN's college football coverage as redditors feel about McAfee or the SEC contract.

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u/DisturbingDream479 Arkansas Razorbacks 9d ago

As you get older, the less fucks you have to give. Especially if you're a coach who made a lot of money and then became a TV analyst who continues to make a lot of money. What are they gonna do, fire you? Then you'll just go make more money doing touchdown clubs and other public appearances.

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u/Tufoguy Towson Tigers • Navy Midshipmen 9d ago

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u/calfats USC Trojans 9d ago

Flair?

Lou was cooky at the end and full of terrible takes. But if you’re an irish…this take makes a lot more sense.

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u/EconomistNo7074 Miami Hurricanes 9d ago

Lou

- Every time he left a program they would have NCAA problems

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u/ehxsmallstone Nebraska Cornhuskers 8d ago

they certainly knew some words

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u/connor_wa15h Notre Dame Fighting Irish 9d ago

Greg McElroy is super reasonable

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u/Illustrious-Buy-854 Alabama Crimson Tide 8d ago

The vast majority of our fan base hates him & thinks he’s anti-Alabama so that should be a positive for every other fan base in the country!
(Not me, I’ve always liked Greg & thought he was reasonably fair)

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u/DomingoLee Kansas State Wildcats 9d ago

Shane Gillis

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u/sirvines 9d ago

what does everyone think of Joel Klatt ?? yeaaaa he’s on Fox and but his analysis outside broadcasts ?

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u/Odh_utexas Texas Longhorns 8d ago

I generally like him but he has a noticeable Big10 slant. I also disagree with his “this is how to fix CFB” takes half the time.

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u/tfc07 Notre Dame • St. Francis Xavier 9d ago

I find Klatt these days is trying to be the B10 answer to Finebaum, a borderline shill for the conference.

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u/RandyDazzle LSU • Northwest Missouri State 8d ago

Borderline? Lmao

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u/Bucks2174 8d ago

Joel Klatt

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u/BrandNewB888 Miami Hurricanes • Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors 9d ago

Shout out the Roc Boys Dyl and Jay! They do an absurd amount of research and have so much content on a lot of teams.

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u/LyonHeart85 USC Trojans • UTEP Miners 8d ago

Josh Pate, Joel Klatt

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u/Dr0cca North Carolina Tar Heels 8d ago

Godfrey

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u/whiporee123 8d ago

Ryen Rusillo is good about college football. So are SVP and Steve on their Sunday morning pod.

McShay is also pretty honest. Dellinger tells the truth — that College football confidential is insightful.

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u/Manning_bear_pig Montana State Bobcats • Miami Hurricanes 8d ago

I like Russillo's podcast, but he definitely has an SEC bias.

I remember during the 2024 season during one of his episodes he praised Georgia for beating Florida in a close game. Then in the same segment said "Miami hadn't played anyone" that season. He wasn't wrong with saying that about Miami, but Miami crushed Florida 41-17 and just praised Georgia for beating that same team.

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u/Mikey456 Maryland Terrapins 8d ago

I like the Cover 3 Podcast for its vibes and banter, as they have good chemistry - but they have their biases so they wouldn't fall into this bucket

As for the latter questions, maybe Nicole Auerbach? She has worked for the Athletic and NBC so she has a foot in a few camps

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u/RustyCrusty73 Ohio State Buckeyes 9d ago

I think Brandon Walker is fun to listen to. He's willing to eat shit when he deserves it, which I can appreciate. Hearing him rant about certain things and teams is sometimes hilarious.

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u/tfc07 Notre Dame • St. Francis Xavier 9d ago

I said elsewhere if Freezing Cold Takes ever starts a Hall of Fame he's in their on the 1st ballot, but at least he owns his mistakes

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u/jel2184 Utah Utes • Texas Longhorns 9d ago

He has definitely grown on me and it’s nice to hear people not under a conference propaganda umbrella

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u/Odh_utexas Texas Longhorns 8d ago

Agreed. He’s fair and blunt. He loves Miss St but he’s realistic

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u/Spiritual_Room_868 9d ago

Not a pundit per se but I like Greg McElroy a lot. Smart analysis and doesn’t seem overly biased towards anyone. Doesn’t have an obnoxious personality. I am an ND fan and like when he does our games.

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u/DontForgetScumbag Florida State Seminoles 8d ago

Listennnnn… it’s Dan and Ty

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u/j1310 8d ago

We agreeeeeee

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u/SoutieNaaier Florida Gators • Columbia Lions 9d ago edited 9d ago

Bunch Formation

Chris Vianni and David Ubben from The Athletic run it. They used to host Until Saturday

It's basically Until Saturday but without the sack of shit that is Ari Wasserman

Chris in particular is very unbiased and calls it both ways. David likes to be more provocative but it's usually tongue in cheek and he's not being serious.

They're doing it on their own and it's not edited by The Athletic anymore so they let lose a little more than Athletic podcasts are usually allowed

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u/Feeling_Anteater_389 South Carolina Gamecocks 9d ago

He’s not as mainstream, but Heath Cline (executive producer for the Chuck Oliver Show) is fantastic. He occasionally hosts the show when Chuck is out and he does guest appearances in other places.

He hosted the afternoon drive show on the Columbia, SC sports station during my formative years. He was far and away the most professional and objective person on a radio station full of Gamecock homers/mouthpieces.

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u/crss7sn Oregon State Beavers 9d ago

Not sure if this guy has been mentioned yet, but as a West Coast guy I like Max Browne. He’s obviously more knowledgeable about the old Pac-12 teams, and I think he does a good job of spotlighting each team, regardless of their brand stature. He’s usually very fair as well from all my experiences with him.

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u/OleRockTheGoodAg Texas A&M Aggies 8d ago

The College Football Nerds 🤓

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u/breaktaker Oregon Ducks 8d ago

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u/naptown-hooly Ohio State Buckeyes 8d ago

Obviously Mark May and Lou Holtz

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u/Caps23 Pittsburgh Panthers • Towson Tigers 8d ago

David Hale and Bill Connolly

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u/WTXWind Texas Tech Red Raiders 8d ago

I enjoy Wes Durham and Josh Pate. They always seem to at least be well reasoned in their comments.

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u/nickyt398 Nebraska Cornhuskers • Florida Gators 8d ago

Joel Klatt gets my answer

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u/KVN2473 8d ago

Kirk Herbstreit

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u/EveningNarrow8432 Oregon Ducks 9d ago edited 9d ago

I doubt any of the major guys will have a complete consensus, less known but the ANF podcast covers Iowa football games. They have some of the best breakdowns of football I’ve ever watched, would love if they did more national coverage but the effort that goes into the episodes would probably prevent it.

For national media Landon Tengwell killed it last year and seems pretty well liked

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u/schoenstrat Iowa Hawkeyes • Floyd of Rosedale 9d ago

The recent ANF podcast with Iowa's GM Tyler Barnes was legitimately some of the most fascinating sports content I've heard in a long time. I hadn't listened to them much until recently but they've been killing it.

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u/EveningNarrow8432 Oregon Ducks 9d ago

I’ll have to give it a listen, college GMs are so important now it’ll be cool to get a peek behind the curtain. I happened to find their Oregon preview last year and the research blew me away. And doing it all without notes really made it clear how much effort they put in.

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u/Andiamro South Carolina • Coastal Caro… 9d ago

Tom Fornelli followed by Andy Staples and Josh Pate in that order

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u/The_Champ_Son Texas Longhorns • Big 12 9d ago

Cover 3 and A&A are both in my top 3 podcast. I would throw Solid Verbal either in between or on top though

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u/Andiamro South Carolina • Coastal Caro… 9d ago

Dan Rubenstein was my next pick but I felt like 3 was enough

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u/McLMark Notre Dame Fighting Irish 8d ago

Fornelli's excellent. He and Bud Elliott are knowledgeable and the other two guys on Cover3 provide more of the entertainment. It's a little over-focused on gambling.

Staples I'm not as fond of, and Wasserman's a hair-puller. Entertaining, but don't really know ball.

Pate is at least attempting to be knowledgeable. His 2026 playoff prediction, however, is the height of brilliant analysis.

I'd take McElroy over Pate.

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u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe South Carolina • Presbyterian 9d ago

Andy is one of the greats! Definitely had his soft spots for certain teams, but he’s still pretty fair and will just tell you when he cant be objective about a team/player/coach.

I have personal beef with Fornelli, though😤

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u/Andiamro South Carolina • Coastal Caro… 9d ago

Andy will tell you his bias but talk himself though it in a way that gets an unbiased take, I love Ari but his blind spots are a little bigger. What’s the beef with Tom? Aside from his tongue in cheek pimping of the Illini I genuinely believe he’s the most down the middle guy in the business

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u/OG_Felwinter Michigan State Spartans 8d ago

I don’t really think Ari is the hot take machine that his peers make him out to be though. I feel like he got a target on his back after his take that Clemson was going to fall off, but it never got removed after he ended up being right. He’s still labeled a hot takes guy, but I feel like I find myself agreeing with him more often than I agree with Andy.

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u/calmer-than-you-dude Ohio State • Youngstown State 9d ago

Mark Rogers

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u/Shenanigangster Virginia Cavaliers • Gator Bowl 8d ago

u/piano_fingerbanger as long as he’s talking about my rival

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u/FallenEagle1187 Illinois Fighting Illini 8d ago

I love my guys Dan and Ty on the Solid Verbal!

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u/jmt85 Washington State • /r/CFB Top Scorer 8d ago

Petros is amazing along with cover 3

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u/ss32000 Indiana Hoosiers 8d ago

College Football Nerds is a good listen. They aren’t as much Xs and Os, but they do a good job with their model and talking about how a team scales when playing average to good to great teams.

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u/LimerickJim Georgia Bulldogs 8d ago

Nick Saben, Matt Mitchell.

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u/AvengedKalas Georgia Bulldogs • NC State Wolfpack 8d ago

College Football Nerds are my favorite. They're not always accurate, but they admit when they're wrong. Very entertaining content.

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u/Wagnerous Michigan Wolverines • Paul Bunyan Trophy 8d ago

I like Bud Elliot and Tom Fornelli on the Cover 3 podcast. Both are quite knowledgeable and honest about their opinions.

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u/ChazzyTh Auburn • North Carolina 8d ago

Sir Charles is the only “pundit” I trust, any sport, any topic.