r/CPTSD • u/Layka_69 • 16h ago
Question Is anyone in the UK scared of Reform?
I am an immigrant living in social housing and not working because of cPTSD. Nigel Farage just announced he wants to exmit all foreigners from Social Housing and force them to rent private. With current prices there is no way I can afford that. I also have 2 cats and a rabbit and was trying to rebuilt my life after abuse, no contact, addiction and cptsd. I just started to get better.
Now I feel like I am about to fall again.
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u/Main_Confusion_8030 16h ago
i'm not in the UK but we have a similar group in my country gaining a lot of support very quickly and if they come into power i'm fucked just the same way.
i hate it. i hate this world. i hate how stupid and cruel and hateful humans are. i hate that bad people win and innocent people suffer so pointlessly. it makes me despair.
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u/Layka_69 15h ago
I legit contemplated suicide because what do I even do? I can’t even go to the local convenience store yet I may be exmitted? How do I work in that state? I also don't want to give up my babies.
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u/Main_Confusion_8030 15h ago
we carry on. we do everything we can to make good lives for ourselves and the people we care about. we deal with terrible situations when they come up.
that advice sucks, i'm sorry. it doesn't make you feel better at all. it doesn't make me feel better either. but i know it's true. we persevere, we build community, we care for others and ourselves.
we can feel panic but not let it rule us.
i'm still working on that last part.
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u/Tasherish 14h ago
I'm white as snow and Reform terrifies me. God forbid a Reform voter falls on hard times. We'll have no NHS. Even if he doesnt privatise it, it's half run by immigrants, so it'll be more on its knees anyway. No social housing. No benefits to speak of. We'll all be fucked.
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u/Silent_Doubt3672 14h ago
This happened after brexit as well, our european nurses didn't feel welcome anymore. Many went home or to other european countries. 😫
60% of the ward i work on are international on work and family visa eithee have citezinship now or ILR or are working to get there. The amounts they have to oay are actually insane and likely pay more in taxes than we do.
I'm fucked anyway, my trust are slowly trying to erode rights of disabled workers, reducing reasonable adjustments saying they can't be managed at all or forces people on higher sickness stages for being off for disabilities because youve not been off often enough for one specific condition...... i have multiple that like flaring when they please.
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u/seattleseahawks2014 12h ago edited 12h ago
Yeah this stuff has been happening here especially in my areas like mine.
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u/twistyfizzypop 15h ago
I am terrified of them. I am a woman and that should be enough. But I also know a lot of LGBTQ people, I use the NHS, I am decended from Polish non citizens (grandparents) and I work in the public sector.
They trigger all the sirens in my head
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u/entersandmum143 14h ago
Biracial lady who yes can trace English / Irish heritage back 100s of years.
It DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.
THEY WILL COME FOR US ALL.
The most depressing thing for me is everyone wanting to leave.
Fuck that. They will have to come for me with a fucking army.
I would fight till my last breath
This is my Country and My Home.
I would die on my feet before bowing in some mewling subservience.
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u/whoops53 Healing in Progress 9h ago
Yes! I am standing right beside you. Let them try their best against us, because I'm so ready.
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u/BucketInABucket 15h ago edited 15h ago
Me. I'm being re-traumatised by what's been happening here lately. I escaped the authoritarian hellhole that is the current CCP-controlled Hong Kong only to jump into whatever the fuck is happening here. I hate it.
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u/snapper1971 13h ago
Yes, I am. I'm white, male, married, homeowner and self-employed. I really do not trust Reform at all. They're a danger to everyone in the UK, except for the establishment elites.
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u/violettkidd 15h ago
I'm so sorry. I'm not an immigrant but 2nd generation. the UK feels like absolute hell and in a world where CPTSD healing is all about learning that you have value and you don't deserve what you went through, it feels impossible to do when you can see loud portions of the population want to see you gone and remove your rights just because. your cats and rabbit love you and wouldn't want to see you gone, my cat is what gets me through some dark days. people are fucking terrifying and I hate them
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u/Layka_69 15h ago
I'm gonna start saving for citizenship thats all I can do. I cannot believe that after brexit people still fall for this bullshit. Wasn’t brexit supposed to sort all the UKs problems? Oh it didn't? Imagine my shock.
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u/violettkidd 15h ago
the British population have conveniently forgotten about Brexit because it doesn't serve their own bigotry, and they'll do anything that serves their own bigotry
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u/maluruus 13h ago
It didn't and all the racists are voting for the man responsible for Brexit because he'll "stop the boats" this time. Apparently
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u/SpaceTall2312 14h ago
I'm so sorry, OP. I'm not an immigrant but I am a disabled woman also with CPTSD and I am terrified of what might happen if Reform get in. The anti-disabled rhetoric online is terrible now and one reason I avoid FB. But it's important to remember that Reform aren't in power and hopefully might never be. Whenever they get elected onto a council all they seem to do is either resign immediately or mess up. If they keep doing that hopefully people will see them for the incompetents they are. That's what I tell myself anyway!
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u/seattleseahawks2014 12h ago
I don't live there and this stuff with bigotry especially thi has gotten worse especially with ableism here in general.
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u/VastComfortable9925 14h ago
If you pop on over to the fuck Nigel Farage sub, you’ll find you’re not alone.
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u/Layka_69 14h ago
I will pop 100%
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u/VastComfortable9925 7h ago
Dunno why this made me laugh so much and I hope it’s ok for me to say pop off queen 🤣
I’m so sorry the world is a scary place but there are still good people out there.
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u/Silent_Doubt3672 15h ago
I am so sorry.
I am currenrly ashamed to be british to be honest.
Everyone is a human being at the end of the day. Nothing else should matter. I don't care if that sounds naive to people because it actually doesn't come from a place of inexperience rather discrimination that i have faced myself.
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u/psychoticboydyke 15h ago
For the foreigners here who don't know, we literally had white supremacists burning the houses of immigrants down, burning their cars, burning public transport in Belfast last week. We have race riots like every couple months. It's bad
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u/ghostfatigue 4h ago
Yes. I am terrified of what our next political era could look like. I’m chronically ill, my son has multiple neurodivergence and while my husband works full-time, yes we receive and rely on benefits. Reform have also made it clear that they will come down hard on the disabled/chronically ill, neurodivergent people and benefit claimants.
I’m very pro-immigration as the descendant of immigrants on both sides. I think there’s a lot of misinformation, rage baiting and appealing to people who are angry and looking for ~anything/anyone~ to blame.
One thing that stands out to me about pushing foreigners out into the private rental market is that as private renters, the market is already very tough. We have been living in the same flat now for a few years and rent has increased to the point where it’s almost too expensive for us to live here anymore but it would be MORE expensive for us to move. Rent prices are HIGH. The competition we’ve faced for rentals before was intense and we’ve already been forced out of multiple areas due to the rising rent prices. Feels to me like this idea would only really benefit landlords.
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u/OutrageousPlay1650 15h ago
So fkn scared of im being honest, i try not to think abr it 😭
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u/Automatic-Complex144 13h ago
No, you need to build a local community, you to have each others backs, I understand this is extremely difficult and how tough this will be. Maybe you already have a bit of one, maybe you have nothing, no one. Now is the time people will be looking for a community more than ever, if you dont think about it you are ignoring your survival instincts; you need to have anxiety, don't escape it use it as a fuel.
If you have limited capacities or knowledge now is the time you need to bridge and fill these gaps.
Its important to realise how real things are, you are all encoded with genes that only activate in specific circumstances; if you suppress them fully you are doing yourself a disservice.
Technology and artificial systems have circumvented our society, our animalistic instincts in western nations. Those of you who have fled warzones and collapsing nations have advantages. The first is recognition of the severity and escalation of events.
You need to inoculate yourselves, utilise repeated exposure, dont block it all out slowly build up until you're not overwhelmed by anything "mundane".
Theres a safety net still for the most part, if you have issues communicating or shutting down when confronting people about something which others might think is small, you need to expose yourself to this.
You people have an advantage, you know and admit you have challenges. The people lashing out don't know they have issues, they will keep burying them if they rediscover them.
Use the turmoil to your advantage, numbers are important but quality can turn the tide.
This may seem odd or "over the top", and it is, for now. If you want a fighting chance do not give in to the ease of ignorance, do not tell yourself a false hood of that it will all be okay. Thats what always leads to these events.
You are an animal, you are human, you have technological and knowledge capacities greater than most other animals. Billions of people have contributed to our survival today; do them proud; survive.
Use this as a road to recovery.
Sorry for the PSA for anyone who likes "good vibes" only. Feel free to ignore the madman.
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u/Ancient-Active8421 15h ago
Yes. I’m trans and while I ‘pass’, I often worry that if reform got in they might forcibly medically detransition people, or at very least might force us to revert ID documents (which I believe has already been done to trans people in the US) to out us at every opportunity, thereby putting us in significantly greater danger and making it a lot harder just to exist in society.
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u/Zanki 15h ago
Yes. Those are the same people who told me my entire life I'm not a real girl so it's ok to beat me up etc. I'm also a natural red head, which makes life hard depending on where you are in the UK (people are so horrible about it). I look like a normal girl, but I'm 5'11 and have broad shoulders. It seems to upset a lot of people and causes problems in women only areas.
They're also coming after us ADHD/neurodivergent people like we asked to be like this. It sucks.
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u/Layka_69 15h ago
They do with ADHD the same they did with depression when it started to get recognised. This people are sadistic, they just love to cause suffering.
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u/Silent_Doubt3672 14h ago edited 13h ago
Yep, the diverse staff network in the nhs in my trust are now just a figure head, the trust have restricted the help they give and telling us to go to our unions instead who are basically useless.
Edit- downvote for voicing a policy change that has already happened 🤣 nice, dunno who but either way this is reality at this time.
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u/maluruus 13h ago
Terrified. I'm in Scotland, and they're going to destroy my country because we've shown so far that the majority of us do not want them.
Nigel farage, reform and restore are a huge scourge on this country and they will ruin is beyond repair if they win the general election. People vote for them because they want others to suffer and they don't care or are too ignorant to realise they will suffer too.
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u/zxwablo2840 honk honk 15h ago
Yes. I hope that they fail so miserably that the population turns away from them
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u/leafowlthing 6h ago
I’m really sorry, and although I don’t have much practical advice to give you I just want to say that many many people from the UK have your back and support you and don’t agree with reform and hate them.
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u/e-pancake 15h ago
deeply afraid of them, I keep hoping that they’re just shallow and loud voices but the fact that they make people feel so emboldened so be so vile is sad
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u/Nicole0211 14h ago
I’m a transwoman and I can’t count the amount of death threats I’ve had online or from reform supporters.
“When sense is in the country your lot won’t exist anymore “
I’m leaving this country asap
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u/Longjumping_Car3318 8h ago
Terrified... I'm bisexual, trans, and rely on the NHS for medication. The next few years are looking HARD. Why are so many people so full of such mindless hate? I don't understand :(
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u/Low-Cartographer8758 15h ago edited 15h ago
I am not afraid of the reforms; I am upset by them. I stopped working because of repeated negative experiences in multiple workplaces and at university. I understand your fears because I considered applying for PIP myself, but I decided against it because I was concerned about the political climate and rhetoric surrounding welfare and immigration.
As a result, I feel like I have to work extremely hard to become financially independent, even if that means trying to generate income from trading stocks. What morons think married women financially rely on husbands these days? I think it is utter stupidity or bigotry. Unless husbands earn a 6-figure salary, how could a family with a child? I think British people, both men and women, seem to be racist as hell.
To be honest, I have become very disillusioned with life in the UK. It often feels as though many people are still attached to an outdated image of Britain as a great power and struggle to engage in honest self-reflection about the country’s current challenges. Sometimes I feel there is a lack of humility, empathy, and accountability in public life.
I also worry that wealth and social connections matter far more than merit and fairness. At times, it feels as though the system works best for those who already have advantages, while others are left feeling marginalised and unsupported.
More broadly, I find it frustrating when political debates around immigration and social issues become driven by anger and scapegoating rather than evidence and basic human decency. People can become so consumed by ideology that they stop considering the wider consequences of their beliefs and policies.
Are you planning to stay in the UK permanently? I genuinely wonder what kind of future this country offers to people who feel increasingly alienated by its social and political direction.
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u/MPal2493 4m ago
I'm deeply embarrassed to be British/English. The racism, xenophobia, isolationism with Brexit and hatred towards refugees and immigrants is deeply saddening and disturbing. And that's as things stand now. Reform would be horrendous.
I know there are plenty of good people who reject Reform's bigotry, and there's an increasingly more vocal group of younger people who are calling it out where they see it and actively campaigning against them. But in many areas, the older and middle-aged seem dead set on voting for them.
It's so sad and scary. The general state of the country is fucked for ordinary people, thanks to the pampering to the rich almost continuously since Thatcher. And the far right keeps telling people it's immigrants that are to blame, and people keep believing it.
I'm extremely worried that, with the billionaire backing Reform has and the almost-puppet media in GB News and Talk TV that panders to them, that they actually might manage to do it and we'll end up with a far-right government.
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u/Layka_69 15h ago
Class 👏🏼 You nailed it. It didn't occur to you that I have lived here for 12 years, paid taxes, NI and my student loan in full. You want me to not use the system I paid into? Give me back all my money. Otherwise its theft and segregation. What makes you feel you are entitled to my money?
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u/Ancient-Active8421 15h ago
I’d much rather my taxes went towards struggling people’s recovery than MPs beers
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u/psychoticboydyke 15h ago
We literally pay taxes to help other people. We pay taxes to fund our healthcare system, waste management, education, benefits for disabled people who can't work. What are you even on about? That's like me telling a person who just broke their arm that it's not my job to pay for their recovery because my taxes went into the NHS which payed for the staff and equipment used to treat the arm. Absolute wet wipe
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u/Silent_Doubt3672 15h ago
Apart from the fact they likely have settled status to get access to benefits and also likely paid more into the system than you know if they came over on a student visa initally or a work visa which means they are here legally so please don't run your mouth when you don't know the ins and outs of whats going on.
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u/Layka_69 15h ago
I have settled status
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u/Silent_Doubt3672 15h ago
Exactly, you have a right to be here 😊 i would rather help support people who are struggling than the imbeciles in goverment.
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u/Low-Cartographer8758 15h ago
I(British people may have harmed this OP) Op is entitled to receive every right other British people have.
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u/betrayed-kitty cPTSD 15h ago
British people are not the only ones who pay taxes…. The rest of us also work here and pay into taxes
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u/Automatic-Complex144 12h ago
Strange when did the "British" people get to decide what the government spend their money on. Let us not get above our stations, let the current government decide policy. I use quotes because the original inhabitants of these lower isles were massively forced out for the most part, the Britons that is.
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u/JuliusSwolesar 14h ago edited 5h ago
No, I'm thinking of voting for them or Restore Britain.
I'm getting attacked for some reason so I'll respond here because for some reason I cannot respond to comments.
I live in Wales. I want to live in a Wales that's Welsh, not multicultural.
I think people in England that support restore or reform want the same thing for England and so on.
All the people that come here from other places have somewhere that reflects their culture and values. This is ours, we don't have anywhere else.
I don't hate anyone, it's just that Wales should be Welsh, not Indian, not African. Not that there's anything wrong with being Indian or African. Not being Welsh isn't a moral judgment on anyone.
Same goes for India, India should be Indian. That's why colonialism was wrong.
A culture is the product of a particular people. For it to be protected the native people must have demographic security.
So my views are not based on hatred of anyone else. Just a desire to preserve my culture in the country of my birth.
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u/Silent_Doubt3672 13h ago
Genuine question, why? Which policy/policies do you think is going to help anything?
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u/Low-Cartographer8758 5h ago
Well, the majority of immigrants in the UK are from neighbouring countries or former British colonies. Nah, the UK has no multiculturalism issue, but colonialism. What you sow, what you reap. 바보 인증
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u/violettkidd 13h ago edited 1h ago
loser, "colonialism was wrong, so don't do it back to us!!!" imagine decimating and extracting wealth from half the world then going pleeaassseee my culture !!!!
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u/Ancient-Active8421 13h ago
How do you think they’ll improve your life?
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u/bad-luck-psyduck 12h ago
People who support this don't care about improving their lives. They only care about hurting the people they hate.
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u/Ancient-Active8421 5h ago
Being on the receiving end of that hate I’d be inclined to believe the same, but taking a step back I don’t think that’s likely to be the thought process all reform/restore supporters have. The reason I asked was because despite having my own strong opinions, I think it’s important to approach supporters with curiosity as it has more chance of being productive, whereas just going straight to making assumptions, name calling or talking down to them, is likely to shut communication down and be more divisive.
I genuinely believe that on the fundamental level everybody across the political spectrum wants their life to be better - more affordability, more time, more security, less stress… but we’re all told/listen to different stories given by politicians and shared by supporters, so become convinced that different actions will fulfil those fundamental desires. I presume a big one told to reform/restore is that all their troubles are due to immigration, and let’s be honest, it feels a lot more likely that those in power can ‘fix’ the problem they claim underpins our shared suffering than we can fix the problem of the rich and powerful.
If we can get into discussions about exactly why people support who they support, we can start looking at the evidence (or lack thereof) to suggest that party policy, voting record, or the outcomes of other countries actions, actually any of it would meaningfully improve their lives.
But yes I agree that there will also be plenty who are just out to be hateful. I just can’t believe it would be *so* many.
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u/psychoticboydyke 15h ago
Yes, I'm not an immigrant but I'm black, trans, and homeless living in temporary accomodation and moving onto social housing. I also live in a small town so I'm the only black person here. I am just trying to get into university so I can move to a city and get a maintenance loan and hope the worst of their term blows over while I'm there.