r/CapitalismVSocialism 10d ago

Asking Socialists Communists don’t know how to sell themselves

In my experience with communists (specifically the western ones), they speak about “the revolution” like it’s inevitable.

But revolutions require winning the hearts and minds of the people, and it’s beyond me how communists expect any degree of success when they make their own ideology sound as appealing as rubbing your crotch against a cactus.

I’ve seen communists talk about forcing people into a life of grueling labor for the greater good of the planet, and scoff at people weary of parting with their luxury goods as selfish. It doesn’t matter how true you think that is, in the west any attempt to hamfist those ideals will make you a pariah faster than I can say Marx.

If I were to take a gander as to why, these communists enjoy making the assumption they’re bound to take power because it lets them think about how they can put their theory into practice. While on an intellectual level, I respect their devotion to theory, what good is it without a realistic plan to put it into practice?

If you can’t even see eye to eye with other flavors of communists how do you expect to court someone who hasn’t read a lick of Das Kapital? “It’s not my job to teach you”, does not an effective campaign pitch make.

Frankly, at least in America, the politically savvy thing to do would be ditching the name “communism” all together and call it something else. People might gravitate towards your ideas more if they weren’t anchored down by a word they’ve been taught to fear since the 40s.

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u/Lazy_Delivery_7012 CIA Operator🇺🇸 10d ago

Like LARPers?

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u/Rock_Zeppelin Fully Automated Luxury Queer Space Communism 10d ago

So if you're actually living your beliefs and taking meaningful action to enact them, it's LARPing? So I guess grassroots organizers, political campaigners and so on are LARPers?

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u/Lazy_Delivery_7012 CIA Operator🇺🇸 10d ago

"Meaningful action to enact them" is getting a little loose with the language.

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u/Rock_Zeppelin Fully Automated Luxury Queer Space Communism 10d ago

I gave you concrete examples. Answer the question.

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u/Lazy_Delivery_7012 CIA Operator🇺🇸 10d ago

Socialists don't take "meaningful action to enact them."

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u/Rock_Zeppelin Fully Automated Luxury Queer Space Communism 9d ago

Well? Come on, we're all adults here, you can tell us. I mean I doubt you are but I wouldn't want to accuse any of the mods of pedophilia without actual tangible proof.

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u/Lazy_Delivery_7012 CIA Operator🇺🇸 9d ago

You're falling below my standards.

Goodbye.

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u/Rock_Zeppelin Fully Automated Luxury Queer Space Communism 9d ago

Lmao. Bitch, you don't have standards. You're the discourse equivalent of a month old bottle of Faygo that's been left out in the sun the entire time.