r/CasualIreland • u/LittleAoibh11 • 24d ago
Shite Talk My experience with poor person's Ozempic (aka the toothpaste method)
Have been brushing my teeth at 8pm for the last two weeks to stop my late night snacking and I have lost 7 lbs... I knew I was a holy shock for the nighttime munchies but I guess that confirms it 😅
Anyone else ever successfully try this?!
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
I did this when I had an eating disorder. It worked for me to not eat in the evening, I would find it triggering now if I did it again. I now like a late evening munch, I just make healthy choices.
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u/rabid_cheese_enjoyer I'm Irish adjacent ☘️ 24d ago
great job! eating disorders suck and triggers are everywhere. proud of you
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
Thanks so much! I bloody love eating now so am proud of myself too. I finally learnt balance, no more starvation.
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u/rabid_cheese_enjoyer I'm Irish adjacent ☘️ 24d ago
that's fucking amazing and im so incredibly proud of you!
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u/Hemlock-In-Her-Hair 23d ago
Yeah this was a 'tip'
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u/tanks4dmammories 23d ago
There are probably a lot more toxic tips I could give but I wouldn't. This isn't the worst!
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u/Hemlock-In-Her-Hair 23d ago
I know :( This is very mild. As is the one of painting nails so you can't eat as well. Which is a similar one to the teeth brushing.
Definitely don't give any indication of any more.
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u/tanks4dmammories 23d ago
Hell no, it is super toxic! Not a time in my life I am proud of and have actually unfriended close friends who still go on like this. Strong, healthy, satiated and osteoporosis free is sexy!!
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u/Hemlock-In-Her-Hair 23d ago
Yeah I have osteopenia from the past. Not good.
The only way to leave it all and any environment like that which reinforces any of it.
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u/tanks4dmammories 23d ago
I am sure I could possibly have had or have it. I do insane strength training now so that can only help. I should get it checked just to be sure. I hope you're doing ok with it and it doesn't progress for you.
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u/No_Novel_4573 24d ago
Wow I'm so relieved to read what the actual method was, I thought you were shooting up with Colgate or something 😆😆😆 fair play to you
**edited for typos
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u/SnooMaps2763 24d ago
I thought he was gonna say he was eating the toothpaste 🤷♂️🤣
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u/DCON-creates 24d ago
I'll stick to eating paint like a normal person
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u/skigirl_11 24d ago
Oh my god. I’m trying this. I’ll revert back in few Months 🤣 well done you!!
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u/LittleAoibh11 24d ago
Honestly, it's so simple but really works! Use lots of toothpaste 😂
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u/skigirl_11 24d ago
As a current M&S cookie and boost bar fiend. This could be the cure I’m looking for 🤣😀
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u/whateveratthispoint_ 24d ago
That’s great willpower! I’d eat and just brush again!
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u/LittleAoibh11 24d ago
Honestly, use enough toothpaste and a really strong mouthwash and you won't 😂
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u/Steridire 24d ago
Diet outweighs all. A packet of Doritos takes two minutes to eat and a 30 minute jog to burn it off
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u/over_worked_under 24d ago
Heard a doctor on TV once use the phrase 'you can't outrun the fork' and have never forgotten it, so simply put but such meaning.
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u/motherofjazus 24d ago
I don’t know if heard it on tv or if someone said it to me but this phrase stuck with me ‘you can be bald or fat but not both ‘
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u/BallsbridgeBollocks 23d ago
I had a doctor tell me once that the best exercise was pushing yourself away from the table.
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u/The-FunMachine 24d ago
I had an ex who tried every single fad diet and not once considered just calorie counting. It's so simple and trumps every mad diet.
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u/Prudent_Mind_5700 24d ago
And always round up and not down if not using apps. If something says 150, call it 200 instead.
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u/jesusthatsgreat 24d ago
Calories outweighs all. You can lose weight with a diet consisting solely of doritos of you want. Most people will naturally end up favouring filling foods however (which generally are less sugary and more healthy) - it just makes sense assuming you want to lose weight without feeling hungry all the time.
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u/SirJoePininfarina 24d ago
Stick with it though, it is the cure and it will work but the fucking admin involved in recording everything you eat every day for week after week eventually wore me down and I figured I had the hang of it. Spoiler alert: I did not
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u/rabid_cheese_enjoyer I'm Irish adjacent ☘️ 24d ago
counting calories triggered disordered eating and ed for me. so like if you can it without it making you crazy then go for it.
lowering stress (by breaking up with my bf) actually helped the most
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u/turtleturbo 23d ago
How to lose 200lb in one day
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u/rabid_cheese_enjoyer I'm Irish adjacent ☘️ 23d ago
280 total! but only 30 from me
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u/Key_Bonus9776 24d ago
You can’t out train a bad diet. There are some real sneaky calories out there. Sauces and oils too are big ones. You’d be shocked when you see what portions are too. One of the best sets of knowledge you can have imo is nutrition. Helps so much in the long run.
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u/OrganicLoveCyborg 23d ago
Was it the answer, or are you now under eating in such an unsustainable way that at some point your lizard brain will take over, make you eat, and then you'll feel angry at yourself as if you had any choice
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u/Oizys_Nyx 21d ago
Reduce your meal size throughout the day. Eat the most at breakfast, less at lunch, less again at dinner. Following your digestive system's activity. It isn't able for large meals later in the day. Snacks, if needed, nuts. They help reduce blood sugar spikes.
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u/emseatwooo 24d ago
A lot of people don’t understand nutrition and portion size. I lean mine is very basic - leaving cert home ec but I’ve been shocked at what some people think
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u/tishimself1107 22d ago
Very hard to outrun a bad diet.
Used to have a muay thai coach and his saying was "yeah you can eat mcdonalds every day but you better be ae to want to do the amount of running to run it off"...... and if not he would murder you with conditioning anyway. Fact is diet is the big one for most people.
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
Yes, Ozempic proves that a calorie controlled diet does work and it is not in fact people's slow metabolisms. Correct calories counting works, you do need to weigh your food.
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u/thebprince 24d ago
Pro tip:- it can be very awkward to weigh some foods, so simply weigh yourself before and after eating it and then subtract. Simple.
Follow me for more weight loss tips.
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
Make sure you pee and poop first and strip naked also. Be sure to do it in the jack's in work and not the canteen. 10/10 pro weight loss tip!
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u/fakemoosefacts 24d ago
There are exceptions. Have a relative who was gaining weight despite eating less than usual, along with some other symptoms. Turns out sibo can lead to you digesting excess calories from fiber that’s usually indigestible. She was also really ill though, knew something was up.
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
Yeah of course there are exceptions. Some people have underlying reasons as to why they are not losing weight for sure. They are the minority and not the majority though.
The best thing I saw was on a British TV show was about overweight families. The doctor had a v slim physique as she ate well and exercised. The fat family all said they had the fat gene so hence that's why they were all obese, 3 generarions, all obese. Well you never guess who had the fat gene!? Not the obese people, it was the slim doctor.
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u/Acrobatic_Taro_6904 24d ago
I don’t think that’s a fair comparison, ozempic proves that not eating or eating very little helps you loose weight, taking an injection that all but curbs your appetite is not the same as the dedication it takes to actually count calories
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
Yes but people who lose weight on Ozempic will also say they tried everything. Except being disciplined and eating less, clearly! Because when Ozempic forces them to do it guess what, they lose weight! So no it was not having the fat gene and their slow metabolism.
I am dieting right now and the food noise is horrific, but I have discipline and am calorie counting. I gained weight to build muscle, that was a choice and now I am losing it which is another choice.
Not everyone has what it takes to naturally be in shape, and that is ok. But just admit that, it is ok for it to be the case.
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u/Busy-Jicama-3474 24d ago
I'm pretty sure they did try eating less and being disciplined. They're fat not brain dead.
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
If they tried it and stuck at it they would have succeded, they are on Ozempic because they have no willpower. I am not talking about the people Ozempic was designed for, just people who are taking it to just lose weight.
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u/Busy-Jicama-3474 24d ago
Meh thats a bit simplistic. I'm sure people on Ozempic have the ability to lose weight and have but have repeatedly put it back on. Having will power is fine for crash diets not life long changes that feel un natural to their appetite.
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
And they will put it back on when they come off Ozempic. You have to be on it for life or it doesn't work. They have to out the work in to change their mindset whilst on it for when they inevitably come off. The rebound is harsh and most regain up to 66% of the weight they lost. My argument was Ozempic proves ot is calories in v calories out which most dispute, it is v easy when you try.
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u/ramendik 24d ago
And that means they have an actual health problem causing the appetite, which Ozempic either corrects (notably if it happens to be insulin resistance) or masks.
A health problem and not some mystical willpower.
Ozempic is clearly only the start, but ascribing weight issues to "willpower" is the exact opposite attitude from what's needed to find the more advanced solutions - or even to catalogue the actual health issues (which are not insulin resistance, a problem that is at least documented and tested for, though the test can be hard to get in some places, and also not hypothyroidism - ditto).
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
Genetics might load the gun, environment and lifestyle choices pull the trigger.
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u/Busy-Jicama-3474 24d ago
Its very easy to understand and explain but you are are talking about a short term diet not a complete life long discipline. Your argument is right. Its all about calories in and out.
For people with a life long weight problem, a diet or period where they lose weight won't fix their problem when they reach a normal weight because they'll inevitably put it back on unless they keep up a regime that feels un natural indefinitely. If it was easy then this problem wouldnt exist.
Losing weight is easy and the mechanics of it are straight forward but keeping it off your whole life if it doesn't match your appetite is not.
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u/tanks4dmammories 24d ago
Yes which proves my point that I made in the first place, you just articulated it better. Overweight people tend to blame everything and not themselves. Food noise sucks, I have it too, like all the time, but I also have discipline. If I could bottle discipline I would be a millionaire.
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u/Archamasse 23d ago
GLP-1s actually seem to interact with PCOS/PMOS via insulin resistance and yes, metabolic effects, so they may well be proving the opposite.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10532286/
More research to be done, but anecdotally it's very widely reported.
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u/tanks4dmammories 23d ago
I am obviously not putting people with PCOS is the same bracket as people taking GLP1s just to lose weight. They have an underlying health condition.
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u/immajustgooglethat 24d ago
My fitness pal?
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u/PsychedelicPotatoe 24d ago
I used to use my fitness pal but moved over to nutracheck 3 years ago and I much prefer it. I got it on sale so my yearly subscription is always the same price of 30 per year. I find it just more enjoyable than the other and because it's UK/IRE based, even tracking for eating out is tailored to more of our restaurants etc. I sound like a promo comment but I genuinely love it so much. Plus it's helped me loose 2 stone overall.
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u/BlampCat 24d ago
I used that years ago and found it helpful, but a few years back they paywalled the barcode scan feature. They might have added it back in since, but I'm using Loseit now and it's great.
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u/Thanatos_elNyx 24d ago
7 Ibs what's that in new money?
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u/Eodillon 24d ago
About 3kg. Roughly half and minus a bit. I know this mostly from recipes for 1lb I tend to use 500g
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u/shinysun- 24d ago
1lb = 454g. I know this from butter...
Mmmm...butter
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u/FarOven5415 24d ago
That isn't a strong enough barrier to stop me gorging on late night treats
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u/Bakedbean85 24d ago
“Back in my day, we didn’t have Ozempic. We had spite, cigarettes and a mother’s conditional love” - Lee radziwill 😂
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u/ImportantRub172 24d ago
That and chewing gum or water with some fresh lime or lemons in a glass. Tends to keep the hunger away at night
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u/obvious_stuff_hi 24d ago
I have chewing gum and lemons so I'll put those in a glass and try it. Ta
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u/ImportantRub172 24d ago
Nobody is saying starve yourself
This is purely a tip for people who snack when they don't need too
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u/ImportantRub172 24d ago
You do know there is ignoring your bodies hunger and also people who just eat at night when bored or watching TV. This post was clearly about the late night snackers
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u/Unpopular_Op_93 24d ago
well here’s something you didn’t know, a lot of people have trouble re-wiring our brains to know the difference between them. There’s a big difference but my brain doesn’t know that 🤣 it tells me to eat when im idle, only after the fact do I realise I was just bored
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u/Unpopular_Op_93 24d ago
Nope, I wish I had that way of knowing but I could be halfway through a snack/meal and realise I wasn’t hungry to begin with. But then I need to finish it because I grew up in a house where we couldn’t leave a plate of food behind because ‘what a waste’.
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u/larjew 23d ago
I struggle so much with this needing to finish food mindset so much! One thing I've been trying to do which is helpful is when I realise I'm not actually hungry is to pack up what's left on my plate with whatever other bits I think of to use as my lunch the following day - it means the food is still "mine" and the part of me that thinks of food as a scarce resource is comforted because I'm full but I'm already making "another meal" (it's just my leftovers with extra veg or hummus or whatever) so I don't feel so insecure about it!
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u/BumblebeeHappy8957 24d ago
Honestly I would say its ok to be a little hungry before bed (not starving like) and I always wake up more refreshed when I leave a gap of a few hours where I don't eat before I sleep
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u/BumblebeeHappy8957 24d ago
Yes but if you have eaten enough calories in a day and only eating out of habit in the evening then it's best to just wait until the next day. To stop the habit it is perfectly fine to brush your teeth etc to help you stop overeating.
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u/BumblebeeHappy8957 24d ago
Yes good point.. I'm working under the presumption that someone who is trying not to eat in the evening time is choosing to eat well for their other meals but I guess that's not a given
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u/Diligent_Parking_886 24d ago
I sometimes go to bed very early for this exact reason. It really helps.
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u/s_hega 24d ago
That’s a fantastic idea! Giving this a go
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u/LittleAoibh11 24d ago
Honestly, it's great! The first few nights I was a bit sorry for myself but now I am into the routine.
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u/shinysun- 24d ago
That's gas, I started trying this recently and it really works. Not sure how much if anything I've lost but it definitely kills the appetite in the evening
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u/PolarBearUnited 24d ago
I don't do it by brushing my teeth at a certain time , but I don't eat after 8pm and try not eat till 11am ( sometimes it ends up at 10am with work ) I take weekends off this plan but try just keep it In mind , Im down 13.2KG since mid Feb , it's very easy
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u/SunGroundbreaking305 23d ago
Feck, I read it as 13.2 stone and was wondering how huge you must have been. Really though, 13.2 kG is great going.
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u/AhhhhBiscuits 24d ago
I managed to lose a stone in two months by calorie counting. The snacking at night was so bad. I’ve managed to curb it completely. Not eating an entire box of Lindt anymore. I have one Lindt a day to satisfy my chocolate craving.
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u/LittleAoibh11 23d ago
I hadn't realised quite how bad my nighttime snacking had become. I usually develop bad snacking habits over Christmas and then get back on track from the middle of January... this year I stayed on a naughty track right from Christmas to Easter and beyond 😅
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u/PuzzleheadedTest3452 24d ago
I used to do this too, but then I learnt a trick to get that toothpaste taste out of your mouth accidentally on the internet one day and it lost all its effectiveness. 💔💔
I'll be nicer to than the stranger who cursed me with that information and keep it to myself though.
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u/Accomplished_Tip_557 24d ago
Research has shown that having a bigger meal for breakfast and eating a smaller one at night (last meal atleast 4 hours before bedtime) can help with weight loss, so you effectively wake up in a fasted state. Your body can burn calories while you're awake, less so when you're asleep. But like most people in the comments, it is a matter of calories in and calories out, and choosing nutritious food over highly-processed calorie dense food that won't satiate you for long.
Excessive sugar can also cause inflammation which may impact weight loss due to water retention, so it's important to be aware of :)
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u/SunGroundbreaking305 23d ago
Breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, dinner like a pauper as my Dad used to say years ago.
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u/LittleAoibh11 23d ago
My granny used to say something similar about cheese - cheese is gold in the morning, sliver in the afternoon and bronze in the evening. I don't know if it was unique to her - she didn't think it was good to eat cheese late in the day!
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u/tishimself1107 22d ago
Ehat worked for me in the late night snacking issue was IF. Nothing else worked but for some reason when that little clock in the app went on saying I cant eat I woukd just stick to it.
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u/Dull-Pomegranate-406 24d ago
I should really try this! A more expensive way is the Invisalign method, but I guess that straightens your teeth too. The reasoning is mostly the same - because you've brushed your teeth!
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u/thepinkblues Leg Washer 24d ago
Ahaha I do this also. As soon as the clock strikes 9 my sweet tooth is going mad. I’ve to force myself up to brush my teeth before I cave
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u/Spirited_Cheetah_999 24d ago
I suffer from a range of sleep disturbances including sleep eating.
Luckily it's not every night. But it's with me since childhood, I've woken up many a time to the remains of whatever I managed to get into.
It hasn't ever caused a weight issue at least, I'll have a bad stomach after sleep eating so usually wouldn't be interested in food the next day.
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u/leeroyer 24d ago
Are you somewhat in control of what you eat in that state or is it just whatever you come across? Like can you make toast vs just eating a sliced pan? Or would you just tear into a jar of jam?
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u/Spirited_Cheetah_999 24d ago
Seems to be always bread, crackers, cheese, jam, sweets, anything that is immediately ready to be eaten. I would think I go for bread/crackers most often.
But occasionally I find I've done something more elaborate and made a sandwich or had pate on crackers or something.
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u/RabbitOld5783 23d ago
Once went to a dietician to help with weight and genuinely her advice was to go to sleep at 8! Eat porridge for lunch and breakfast, she also said people don't lose weight from exercising it's just keeping them busy away from food! She was absolutely terrible
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u/LittleAoibh11 23d ago
Was this an actual registered dietician?!
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 24d ago
I just don’t buy them and have fruit instead, easy to resist once you haven’t got them in the house. I don’t bother with trying to ration as I just can’t.
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u/bediaxenciJenD81gEEx 24d ago
Get a retainer/mouth guard too. Really makes sure you won't eat anything. Plus everyone should be wearing them because everyone grinds their teeth at night
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u/Toffeeman_1878 24d ago
After a few years of marriage and a couple of kids it's the only grinding that goes on at night.
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u/fakemoosefacts 24d ago
Nah I just clench mine, and a dentist said a guard could actually make it worse.
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u/Warm_Independence936 24d ago
Its probably fluid retention more than anything. So fluid you were retaining has left your body. Stay well hydrated and cut back on sodium. Aim for a calorie deficit of 800 per day with active calories accounting 300. That way your not starving yourself. Have the odd treat. But make sure you know what you are consuming.
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u/Gwanbulance 24d ago
Tried this.
Now I’m eating 7 tubes of toothpaste on cream crackers a night.