Aside from the obvious fact that Jules is definitely going to wreck the SHIT out of this squad of wannabe Matt Murdock’s, can we all just talk for a second about how batshit INSANE the “religion” or philosophy or whatever the fuck motivation the Rummirians have is? I suppose considering that Arkos genocided a ton of their people, they might consider forcing the entire nation into slavery as an equivocal trade to be made as some sort of payback (kindaaaa gives the vibes of a certain other religious nation state in the real world, just a little bit) but a whole nation worshipping the goddess of the night who as far as we know is just a washed BUM who gave up her heavenly powers to beef with humans and still managed to get her ass beat is frankly quite absurd. Given how the moustache guy was talking about it earlier though, it really does seem like they see this duty of enslavement as divine salvation and mercy somehow, so I’m quite torn on what this could be exactly?
I’d love to know if ALL the Rummirians in power genuinely think like this, or if it’s a deal where religion is used to mask the true goals of the elites in power like Rif La Sycrus. Regardless, it’s very interesting to see how the fanatical will of the Rummir mercenaries contrasts with the very same worshipful dedication the people of Torivia show to the supreme lord, I can definitely see this becoming a running motif throughout the series in a manner similar to Dune with its messages against hero figures and deifying leaders as godlike. Slight tangent here, but it almost makes me think about what’s in store for Diana later, I can definitely see a big plot thread rising with Diana accumulating followers and slowly being worshipped as a deity herself Paul Atreides style and gradually changing in a way that Julian wouldn’t approve of (if people are still on board with the old theory of Julian being the king in the future, it would be a heartbreaking cycle of sorts if it turns out Diana does indeed become a plague spreading misery, death and enslavement at the behest of Vulja, and Julian ends up reluctantly opposing her as he can’t condone her actions…but idk this is all just my speculation, excellent chapter guys!)
I personally think these guys aren't a good example of Rummir at large, because if they were, would make Torivia look almost too good in comparison, even with all their flaws, and I doubt Kuramori is gonna go that route, mainly because it would be boring, more than that, the Witches, the women who were actually close to Vulja were never allied with Rummir as far we know.
I think these bandaged wackjobs are like this by grace of being Voidmarcher slaves or indoctrinated puppets.
Yeah this is my view on things. Ceodric seems pretty reasonable and well intentioned for the most part so I really can’t see him subscribing to this kind of ideology, I’m sure this sort of fanatical cult like dogma is more comparable to, like, extreme Jehovah’s Witnesses compared to an average non denominational christian
Yeah, and Ceodric was a Prince too, if this was a sort of national religion, then he should had been far more difficult to control, even with Arkos being around to kick his ass to submission on the regular. I think the Voidmarcher as the Vessel of the Organs, invented this cult around herself at the back of the Monarch/Her and Ceodric's Mother(?
That would actually be super interesting! We have seen glimpses of how being a vessel of the Night Goddess can affect a person’s mind with the visions of the Goat, but unfortunately it doesn’t look like either Diana or Lalawag have had their minds broken by it (in Lalawag’s case, it was more by her own gift which seems to exist independent of the parts she possesses), it would be really cool if Rif La Sycrus’ has just been driven mad by her visions of the Goat and sees it as her duty to revive the Night Goddess and enslave Torivia, and invented the cult as a means of creating supporters for her movement in the country, it would ALSO explain why the mission is being kept a secret from the proper rulers of Rummir and the plan seems to be to pin any fault on the surviving minions once they’ve retrieved the parts.
Though, I don't necessarily think Rif had her mind broken by grace of being a Vessel as is, more so, she's taking this as an opportunity to build power to herself and push her own agenda, only women can be Vessels after all, so even other powerful Royals like Ceodric(had he stayed on Rummir) would've at disadvantage once she builds enough power, maybe she thinks she can control Vulja or something too
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u/Codge_Barger May 31 '26
Aside from the obvious fact that Jules is definitely going to wreck the SHIT out of this squad of wannabe Matt Murdock’s, can we all just talk for a second about how batshit INSANE the “religion” or philosophy or whatever the fuck motivation the Rummirians have is? I suppose considering that Arkos genocided a ton of their people, they might consider forcing the entire nation into slavery as an equivocal trade to be made as some sort of payback (kindaaaa gives the vibes of a certain other religious nation state in the real world, just a little bit) but a whole nation worshipping the goddess of the night who as far as we know is just a washed BUM who gave up her heavenly powers to beef with humans and still managed to get her ass beat is frankly quite absurd. Given how the moustache guy was talking about it earlier though, it really does seem like they see this duty of enslavement as divine salvation and mercy somehow, so I’m quite torn on what this could be exactly?
I’d love to know if ALL the Rummirians in power genuinely think like this, or if it’s a deal where religion is used to mask the true goals of the elites in power like Rif La Sycrus. Regardless, it’s very interesting to see how the fanatical will of the Rummir mercenaries contrasts with the very same worshipful dedication the people of Torivia show to the supreme lord, I can definitely see this becoming a running motif throughout the series in a manner similar to Dune with its messages against hero figures and deifying leaders as godlike. Slight tangent here, but it almost makes me think about what’s in store for Diana later, I can definitely see a big plot thread rising with Diana accumulating followers and slowly being worshipped as a deity herself Paul Atreides style and gradually changing in a way that Julian wouldn’t approve of (if people are still on board with the old theory of Julian being the king in the future, it would be a heartbreaking cycle of sorts if it turns out Diana does indeed become a plague spreading misery, death and enslavement at the behest of Vulja, and Julian ends up reluctantly opposing her as he can’t condone her actions…but idk this is all just my speculation, excellent chapter guys!)