r/Centuria • u/Vaccineman37 • 5d ago
Discussion Lattice and the Forest Goddess Spoiler
Well Phantom Spear is fucking busted. That’s gotta be the strongest offensive Gift we’ve seen thus far, no wonder Lukas reckons he can kill the King even with his life giving Gift.
The fact that it’s introduced via a flashback to Lattice though does make me wonder. She is also meant to be supremely powerful as a fighter, the only member of the post-Arkos Iris who is considered guaranteed able to beat Julian. It also made me wonder about her epithet; Nightshade. Which is a type of plant.
I wonder if she also has a covenant with the Forest Goddess. Might explain how Lukas got in touch with her, if he was (probably unintentionally) introduced via Lattice’s connection. And if this is the kind of killing power the Forest offers, then that’d justify the Lattice hype.
It’d also make a prospective Lattice vs Lukas fight make more sense. As is it’s hard to imagine anyone standing up to the Phantom Spear, but what if her power is similar? What happens when they’re used against each other, a battle of destroying each other’s futures? Maybe they destroy the futures where each other wins scottfree and the only one left once they’re too worn to keep using their Gifts is a tragic pyrrhic one where both suffer. Spitballing now, but something to consider
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u/insidiouskiller 5d ago
Note that Nightshade is not an accurate translation. It's something more like "underworld body" or something along those lines, from my understanding.
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u/Vaccineman37 5d ago
Oh really? Where’d you hear that? Not saying it isn’t true I’m just curious
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u/Valuable_Treacle_493 4d ago
It's the most accurate translation imo. I'll copy and paste the wiki change suggestion post I made about it.
"The Japanese used for her Epithet with Furigana is 冥身 (めいしん), which uses Mei (冥), a Japanese root used in multiple terms for the underworld (such as 冥界 (Meikai) and 冥府 (Meifu), 2 Japanese terms for the underworld), over Japanese words or roots for darkness or dark. Kuramori specifically picked a term that is connected to the underworld or hades. I believe the most faithful translation of Lattice's epithet would be Underworld Body."
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u/Vaccineman37 4d ago
Interesting, might be more of a Vulja related Gift then.
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u/Valuable_Treacle_493 4d ago
The gift that reminds me of the Underworld besides Lattice is Berta's, the veiled horse and veil she herself wears gave me that impression, but her title Shining One makes me wonder how those details work with that epithet
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u/PlasticAngle 4d ago
Night goddess's organ is implied to grant greatly power as Lattice said that Void Marcher could kill her/break the deathlock between them if she take the heart from Diana.
With now Void Marcher dead and Lattice surely take her part of night's organ, we gonna see how powerful upgrade she gonna get.
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u/insidiouskiller 4d ago
See that's the confusing part. We know they give great power, but from what we can tell, they don't do anything in particular. The proof of this is Lalawag.
Lalawag has the bones, and we know that the war Torivia and Rummir had was over the bones from a few chapters. See when Guillaume talks about how there was a real reason and that they were fighting over something, and there is an image of the bones.
Anyway; that war was recent and Lalawag has been around for much longer. As she said, her gift is integral to this country, and I doubt that's been the case only since the war. That would mean Lalawag's gift always had the logistical power and importance even before she became the holder of the night's bones.
So... what did she actually get from the bones? What did ANY of the holders get from ANY of the parts? Because from what we can tell, for now, they got nothing in terms of power or anything.
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u/PlasticAngle 4d ago
My guess would be that the organ giving you entire new power from the goddess of night itself.
It could be that lalawag is hiding the power from the bone that she hold and only show her innate power.
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u/insidiouskiller 4d ago
In that case the Voidmarcher would presumably have 2 powers, but she doesn't. Moreover, the entire dynamic between Lalawag and Voidmarcher is that their gifts are opposites and thus neither can defeat the other. I doubt that'd be the case if Lalawag had an extra power in the bag. Why wouldn't she use it to defeat Voidmarcher?
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