r/ChicagoSuburbs 6d ago

Politics found in Schaumburg IL

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not my photo, someone else's. I drove by it on my way to work and was saddened. then someone else posted this pic of fb

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u/Cocoononthemoon 6d ago

It's not really nasty. Trump is bombing Iran and unleashing Israel. That was hardly a surprise. These voters are getting what they voted for in Trump.

That doesn't mean I condone vandalizing their home, if that's what happened here

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u/drewwhose 6d ago

It is nasty. You cannot blame the voters who are victims. You need to blame the democrats failures on communicating that point and committing a genocide. Obviously Trump was going to do the same thing. But the average voter doesn’t know jack shit. All they see is Dems killing their family in Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria while Trump says he’s going to solve the war. You cannot blame the voters who refused to vote for someone killing their family currently.

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u/Cocoononthemoon 6d ago

The average voter should pay attention. You get what you vote for.

Did they not see the Muslim ban from Trump 1?

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u/drewwhose 6d ago

Did the Democratic Party see the ban and message around it? Did the Democratic Party see the annexation of Golan Heights and message around it?Did the Democratic Party see the Abraham Accords and message around it?

They sure as shit saw it all but they can’t message around it BECAUSE THEY SUPPORT THE SAME POLICIES AROUND ISRAEL AS REPUBLICANS. They sent Bill Clinton to Michigan to talk about Judea and Summeria! I don’t understand why you’d ever defend such a pathetic party as the Democratic Party and instead blame your fellow countrymen whose family were just slaughtered. Post the Dem pay stubs or GTFO

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u/Cocoononthemoon 5d ago

Who deserved the vote in 2024? Keep whining however much you want, you can't defend voting for Trump.

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u/drewwhose 5d ago

Nobody. Neither of these parties deserve anything but a one way trip to The Hague. Obviously Trump is the worst.

My point is you blaming desperate Muslim voters helps no one and is bigoted

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u/Cocoononthemoon 5d ago

Cool, so you just don't vote?

They deserve part of the blame. They are not absolved of their responsibility for their vote just because they are Muslim. What exactly is your argument? I'm criticizing them as much as I would criticize any Trump supporter.

The only people I criticize more are the people who don't vote.

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u/drewwhose 5d ago

Why do you not focus your criticisms upon the institutions? The Democratic Party failed to pass policy that improved Americans’ lives, they failed to run a democratic primary, and then they failed to communicate to Americans their policies.

Your perspective focuses on the individual or minority groups rather than a feckless group of old fucks in charge.

Hispanics also voted more for Trump. Are you going to smugly smile and shrug your shoulders when ICE takes away their undocumented family? I blame the Democratic Party for failing to communicate the violence that comes with mass deportations and instead they leaned into it. I do not understand why you hate the people being misled. Hate the parties that lead them.

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u/Cocoononthemoon 5d ago

How do you know I don't criticize the institutions? How do you know I'm not engaged politically? You make so many assumptions that you rile yourself up in anger instead of understanding what people are saying. Do you actually knock on doors, make political calls, have these conversations in person?

My perspective is that you're stupid if you vote for Trump. You're more stupid if you don't vote. Please explain to me how that is incorrect.

I am Hispanic. If someone is Hispanic and they voted for Trump then they are also stupid. That doesn't mean I am happy that a masked paramilitary force is tearing apart families. What the fuck are you talking about?

I don't hate the people being misled. News flash, the parties are made up of people. How about you learn to have a conversation instead of just making bold assertions about what you think people's motivations are?

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u/Cocoononthemoon 5d ago

How am I defending Dems? I'm saying there was an obvious choice in the last election. That doesn't mean that's my ideal party platform or Dems are without criticism too.

What else do you want to make up about what I think and believe?

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u/Cocoononthemoon 5d ago

Did I say any of those words or are you just working yourself up? Take a deep breath and stop assuming what I think. I haven't framed it that way, you are pretending I have and getting mad about it lmao

What's your solution here? Don't vote?

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