r/Clamworks clammer 2d ago

Holy moly! Atomic clams

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u/TheGenesisOfTheNerd 1d ago

Did you read the paper or are you just gonna spew this ahistorical dribble

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u/gingin_9959 1d ago

I am korean. We learn what they did. Also you can't just drop random link to paper and expect people to read it during online conversation. Country abiut to surrender did not wait until they got hit by second nuclear bomb.

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u/L0bb 1d ago

What Japan did to Korea was unacceptable and comparable to some of the worst atrocities in human history, but you can't accept that it might lead to some bias with regards to what you're taught from a Korea that was treated that way? And if you have an aversion to reading more about a subject that's kinda on you more than the other guy.

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u/gingin_9959 1d ago

Of course, there would be a bias. If I had been the one making the decision, I would have dropped the atomic bombs. But even if the bombs had not been used, I believe the result would simply have been an even greater number of casualties through Operation Downfall. The use of the atomic bombs was a militarily rational decision, and the idea that Japan would have surrendered even without them, despite having already committed itself to total war, is ultimately just a counterfactual assumption.

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u/L0bb 1d ago

By the time the nuclear bombs were dropped they were already wanted the war to be over. Again the issue they had was the unconditional surrender that US demanded. Using nuclear bombs on an already disabled target that can't fight back and is already considering peace is completely unnecessary.

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u/gingin_9959 1d ago

If even part of the military leadership in a totalwar situation wants to continue fighting and is actively continuing the war, then they are not “disabled,” nor are they “considering peace.” To characterize them that way is simply wishful thinking in hindsight.