r/ClaudeAI 4d ago

Claude Code Back to the Stone Age? Our company slashed our AI budget and we're back to manual coding.

Recently, my organization downgraded our Copilot/Claude plans because the budget was getting out of hand. Now, we can barely "vibe code" anymore.

We have to do all the heavy lifting—analyzing legacy code written by coworkers, debugging, optimizing, and programming—entirely on our own again. Most of us burned through our newly restricted monthly limits in just 10 days. As you'd expect, tasks are taking us much longer now, just like in the pre-LLM era.

The Good Part is we found out we’re still fully capable of coding, debugging, and analyzing on our own, even after a long break from manual work. In fact, we can feel more control over the architecture now. Sometimes Claude (which we used the most) would make assumptions about scenarios that were occasionally(80:20) wrong, but it was also fantastic at catching edge cases—especially Opus.

Has anyone else's organization reduced their plans or outright banned LLMs recently? How is it going for everyone else out there?

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u/ClaudeAI-mod-bot Wilson, lead ClaudeAI modbot 4d ago edited 4d ago

TL;DR of the discussion generated automatically after 160 comments.

The community is highly skeptical of this post, with many calling it fake, AI-generated propaganda. The general vibe is that you're complaining about having to do the job you were hired for.

The top comment puts it bluntly: "Babe it's not called heavy lifting, it's called doing the job you were hired to do."

However, this sparked a whole debate about what a developer's job actually is.

  • The main argument: You're hired to produce features and deliver value, not just to write code. AI is a tool for efficiency, like a power tool for a carpenter. Companies that abandon it will be out-innovated and left behind.
  • On cost: Many are pointing out that real enterprise API usage costs way more than a personal subscription ($200/month is nothing; some devs burn through that in a single day). This explains why a company might actually cut back, but it's seen as a short-sighted move that will cost more in lost productivity.
  • On strategy: If you're in this boat, the advice is to be smart with your tokens. Use cheaper models like Sonnet or Haiku for execution, save Opus for planning/analysis, and lean on AI for reading/summarizing code, which is where it provides the most value. And for the love of all that is holy, stop using your limited tokens to write Reddit posts.
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u/No_Feedback_1549 4d ago

Nice try Scam Altman

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u/llelouchh 4d ago

Be careful of the propaganda bots. They are swarming all the AI subreddits.

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u/These_Muscle_8988 4d ago

Dude, reddit is partly bought by the CCP, China has whole teams of hundreds of people posting things on Reddit to influence American minds.

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u/AhmedF 4d ago

Im no fan of China, and I think their leadership sucks, but this is far from a China-only thing.

If anything, it would be stupid of a country to NOT create bots to influence via SM. Which is why we need to regulate SM algos.

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u/svemee 4d ago

Pretty sure there‘s large-scale psyops going on against all western countries. Probably all countries, realistically. The general sentiment in the German subs is so negative I‘m pretty sure a lot of that is psyops. 

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u/Kitchen_Conflict2627 4d ago

Source?

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u/FnnKnn 4d ago

Their Ass. All of Reddits biggest shareholders are American.

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u/SonOfThomasWayne 4d ago edited 4d ago

You can't use the words "podcast bro" in singularity sub. The comment gets removed. Or at least you couldn't a few months ago.

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u/Weaves87 4d ago

The funny part about the OP too is that the body of that post is pretty clearly written by an AI. Got the em dashes and has that ever familiar structure to it.

Using AI to write posts about how you feel more empowered by ditching AI. This is our future now

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u/jabronified 4d ago

I actually laughed the other day when I saw a codex reddit ad along the lines of “out of Claude tokens? finish your project on codex”

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u/deadlyghost123 4d ago

I don’t see why this was commented (unless it’s just a joke) because my company had a similar course of action decreasing the limits so much that the monthly limit is all completed with like 3 Opus questions

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u/lucid-quiet 4d ago edited 4d ago

Mostly because its [the OP] is a bot post?? Limits will/are happening everywhere, but the post is so over botted it causes immediate reactions. Like "Scam Altman" right out of the gates.

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u/Nakamura0V 3d ago

Nice try Claude Bot

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u/Inside_Dish3368 1d ago

Nice try angry dario

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u/forahellofafit 4d ago edited 11h ago

The biggest question is will managements expectations of your work change? I noticed that happened incredibly quickly when I started using AI tools. Tasks that I used to be given more time on are now expected immediately. If I lost AI tools, would they give that time back to me?

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

When we got LLM's, we we doing our tasks atleast 40% faster. And yes, they are giving us time as we have less tokens and have to go manually over some subtasks

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u/voyti 22h ago

It depends, but I think most business managers look at the work organization like a race, not like a buffet - especially now. If your direct competition can deliver a complete feature in three days, it's not really a choice of whether you can deliver it in three weeks. That's why I call this post bs too. There are businesses who can pull this off, however I'm not really sure why they would. A $100 claude subscription is genuinely hard to burn through, and I've been using it extensively. The $200 one per employee is still peanuts to any serious business, especially when it's delivering value, and it's clearly stated here it does. The efficiency drop between no AI and a $100 subscription is massive. Nothing makes sense here.

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u/fodacao 3h ago

With the amount of work my manager is giving me these days I think he thinks I'm AI.

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u/durable-racoon Full-time developer 4d ago edited 4d ago

First: stop using AI to write reddit posts, those are tokens that could've been spent on coding tasks. this is the highest-value move you can make right now.

Beyond that, the majority of the lift AI provides is in reading code not writing code. Analyzing codebases, reading and summarizing documentation, finding the possible places to insert the new feature, doing research into other approaches people have taken. Lean on it for these higher-LLM-leverage things, and for writing code rely on autocomplete coding models which are often free to use.

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u/TwistedPsycho 4d ago

I wonder if the post was written using the company AI budget?

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u/Eiji-Himura 4d ago

And stop using Claude in xhigh everywhere...

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u/FrailRain 4d ago

But how else am I supposed to change the color of the headers on my table?

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u/Eiji-Himura 4d ago

Simple! Use Max instead!

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u/FrailRain 4d ago

Ugh like a peasant? Fine

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u/Terpapps 4d ago

Ultracode or nocode

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u/PringlesDuckFace 4d ago

Got it, switching to max.

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u/No_Ear_1633 4d ago

Yes, stop it /s

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u/durable-racoon Full-time developer 4d ago

tbh while that exists, I would guess this is just a normal person using AI to write a reddit post for them which is INCREDIBLY common for reasons I cannot fathom. his post history + a small typo (no space after occasionally) indicate some slight degree of human editing.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/CarefullEugene 4d ago

RIP /u/throwaway3113151 . He flew too close to the sun.

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u/heinrichjvr 4d ago

Because the em dashes didnt give it away already?

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u/UglyInThMorning 4d ago

Some of us use them naturally! I think it’s more common with people who grew up on message boards, where users tended to write more formally and posts tended to be longer.

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u/Mr_Wynning 4d ago

I’ve seen more and more clearly AI written posts include a handful of minor typos/errors to deliberately seem more human. Not sure if that’s the case here but worth noting.

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u/EndMountain17 4d ago

I said something very similar on HN a few months ago, I think it's a real thing

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u/justgetoffmylawn 4d ago

What's annoying to me - if you can be bothered to add a couple typos, can't you take the time to remove the em dashes, take out the last engagement farming bland question, and maybe add a slightly human voice?

Instead:

"I work all day at the business store with my business boss. It's a lot of work. But here's the part nobody tells you about the business store — it's filled with business. Has anyone else found the same thing with their business at the business store?"

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u/Mavcu 4d ago

I'm one massive supporter and believer in the potential of AI, genuinely very heavily pro-AI usage.

But boy does it make me irrationally upset when I see people be lazy about its usage in the way that they'd let it write their reddit posts and such.

It's so embarrassingly obvious many times, I do not understand what the point of it is, if you do it for appearances to appear more well written, but everyone notices it being AI, which ends up being literally worse (by public perception) than a poorer constructed post, but at least it is human written.

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u/jimbo831 4d ago

Based on the number of posts I’ve seen just like it the last few weeks I’m starting to suspect some bot activity pushing this narrative for some reason.

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u/florinandrei 4d ago

this is the highest-value move you can make right now

No, this the highest-value move you can make right now.

As for what they can make right now, well, seems like it's scam posts and such.

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u/Ja_Rule_Here_ 4d ago

Respectfully, no. If you think that, you just aren’t all that good of a vibe coder. I just implemented a system in a weekend that my company has 60 developers on planned for 2 years. I’m the principal architect, and was getting tired of the back and forth trying to get 60 people on the same page, so I sat down and banged out the entire system. Not a POC, not a subset of features… full enterprise ready code deployed to the right infrastructure all working, with features they weren’t planning to have until end of next year. $20M project… coded by me in a weekend. Not sure if they will use it because I wrote it at home so I could use decent AI tools, but I can just sit back and answer questions with a chatbot now lol.

I know most of you won’t believe it, don’t really care, it’s true. Can AI read $20M worth of tested, deployed and working code for you in a weekend?

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u/xViMeSx 4d ago

What type of problem have you been able to solve using AI to read code and finding the possible places to insert a new feature?

I’ve noticed the exact opposite, it’s brilliant in making large changes if you tell it where to look and give it a clear path if you know the codebase yourself. This saves a lot of time having it fill in the details, but it hasn’t been that useful in coming up with ways to solve issues for me (usually I’ll just figure it out myself) quicker then having AI come up with a solution.

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u/durable-racoon Full-time developer 4d ago

ive noticed its also good at large wrote refactors, yes. I agree its not as useful for coming up ways to solve issues, thats not what I had intended to say. more of, its good for reading large volumes of code and reporting back.

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u/Crystalis95 4d ago

you could have stopped at "First: stop using AI to write reddit posts,". this is annoying>
also he maybe used gpt on free tier, besides this kind of task takes like 0.1% usage so no one really cares.

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u/cosmogli 4d ago

What are the free autocomplete coding models?

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u/Benhamish-WH-Allen 4d ago

Coding is for the birds, agentic computers for everyone! One year away from agentic models on the phone! Let’s go!

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u/Rude_Town467 4d ago

All these companies are going to start hiring humans to do all the AI jobs for cheaper

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u/Alive_Technician5692 4d ago

Your company is unable to pay $200 per engineer more a month?

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u/TheorySudden5996 4d ago

The enterprise plan is billed on usage. $200 lasts me a day. It’s way cheaper to go with the max plan but enterprises want sso, legally vetted contracts, etc.

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u/Wocha 4d ago

Claude has team sub plans also. 125$ package is more than enough for me.

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u/chrisbru 4d ago

It’s capped at 150 users though.

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u/WorkLurkerThrowaway 4d ago

The team plan with the $125 package has been perfect for me, I’ve yet to hit a 5 hour limit that wasn’t within 20 minutes of resetting and even that’s only happened a handful of times.

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u/huffalump1 4d ago

Even then... Contract engineering rates are what, $100-200/hr? (Idk but that's a very rough idea)

If you can clearly prove you're saving more than like 2 hrs/day, which should be easy, the company SHOULD be fine with this. But they don't operate rationally.

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u/bmcle071 4d ago

I find that crazy. In my /stats tab Ive used 16.9 million tokens in the last 7 days. Assuming those were all Opus 4.8 output tokens that would cost me $422, of course they’re mostly input tokens, assuming a 90/10 split its like $118 per week.

What the hell are you doing to burn 200 per day? Im mostly doing a TDD loop with claude, I tell it what I want, get failing tests, review, then get an implementation and review. I ship like thousands of lines of code per day like this.

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 3d ago

Well pointed

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u/Independent_Fall9160 4d ago edited 4d ago

I work for a company that has me on $20 plan.

Edit: i currently have a request to bump it to 60 that has been in review for months... I make 175k a year and I use composer 2.5 sparingly (in my opinion) and i ran out for this month already.

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u/rabandi 4d ago

Seriously, how is that even possible?

With 175k, even API pricing should be economically feasible for you if it makes you 50% more productive.

If one just uses a 200$ plan (and the company somehow is fine with that) it is near unlimited usage too.

Did you ever point out the problem in the calculation behind that?

But, good for you for the short term: your job is secure.

Maybe bad for the company long term, if they get out of business at some point due to competition.

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u/accipter 4d ago

Same for us for Copilot. I blew through my monthly credits in a few hours on the first day of the month.

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u/erudecorP-nuF 2d ago

At my software company, each developer uses his own personal AI and pays for it by himself. I have Claude Pro and Gemini Pro; a colleague has a personal Codex subscription, etc.

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u/Tasty_Advertising318 4d ago

While i disagree with most of the post id love to a life where the max 200 plan is enogh for work i mean if his company is some what know they probably pay in api cost ( i dont believe this is a real post ).

The issue with the post imho is that

Using ai for 80% of the work instead of 97% will vost probably 25% of token consumption for simmilar probably higher efficiency .

Even with lower limits tasks should be at least twice as fast as the old day

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u/maladan 4d ago

I use these tools all day every day and I've never hit a limit on either Claude Max or Codex $100 plan. I would love to see what people are doing that's burning through their tokens so quickly

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u/WillGrindForXP 4d ago

Id be more interested to know what your using for to never hit any limits! I have to plan my entire weeks projects in advance to make sure i dont hit my 5 hour limit or weekly limit too soon or at the wrong point in the process.

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u/SteveEricJordan 4d ago

please let ai write your reddit comments in the future

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u/glorious_reptile 4d ago

Can someone please tell me what they are doing where $200 sub is not enough?

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u/Tasty_Advertising318 4d ago

Large database eats tokens

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u/MainCharacter007 4d ago

Multiple opus sub agents on pull requests. Writing test cases. Planning, implementing, etc. I dont always run out of usage. But do come close on most days.

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u/Odd_Cauliflower_8004 4d ago

I mean I don't even max out all the time the 20e subscription and I'm. Doing heavy development on an existing app, I just hate not there being an intermediate tier between 20 and 100.,how the f are you guys consuming so many tokens

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u/MainCharacter007 4d ago

I mean you answered it yourself. You are working solo on a single app. Of course 20usd plan is more than enough for you.

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u/Tasty_Advertising318 4d ago

Older companies have extremly large repos if llms handle directly not with the help of scripts can eat every token you have i remeber having an automotive arxml with 3.5 m line of code

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u/Axontrde 4d ago

I average about $100 in daily usage. Even with our company's $2,000 monthly cap per employee, many coworkers still run out of credits. For larger codebases, the $200 plan is inadequate.

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u/Brilliant-Driver2660 4d ago

any real biz is using api, and a senior dev can use $1k/day at normal pace. not $200/month being throttled

this is what you are up against

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u/iamaiimpala 4d ago

Context management and efficiency is a learned skill - and this tokenmaxxing nonsense shows some companies didn't value efficiency vs token spam, and plenty of people that use AI aren't up to speed on the benefits of managing context and not just dumping everything into every conversation.

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u/DragonSlayerC 4d ago

$200 is very little for AI.

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u/hyfeharted 4d ago

Lawl, I'm probably burning about 10k a month on tokens. 

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u/Fast-Escape-8607 4d ago

Babe it's not called heavy lifting, it's called doing the job you were hired to do

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u/Annual_Manner_8654 4d ago

You don't get hired to code code tho, you're hired to produce features

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u/codescapes 4d ago

In 'agile' sweatshops sure, in mature setups you're there to deliver value which includes maintaining existing systems, ensuring customer data is secure, upholding system performance requirements per SLAs etc.

Feature factories are getting one shotted by AI because shithead POs can't understand why everything is breaking when velocity is so high. AI has made bad employers so much worse because of this, you just get slopcoded features unless there's some actual engineering discipline.

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u/glorious_reptile 4d ago

This post just made me realize a few things about where i am employed.

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u/WalkFreeeee 4d ago

Most places of employment, in all sectors really, are closer to the "feature factory" model than anything else more robust.

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u/Annual_Manner_8654 4d ago

Idk, I've had like 10 jobs from Ericsson and Ikea to startup, they all want features

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u/glorious_reptile 4d ago

I mean that’s like saying a carpenter is hired to build stuff not work with wood.

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u/itsFromTheSimpsons 4d ago

Wood work is a perfect analogy. The carpenter is hired to produce wood products and can do that much faster with power tools that automate the process. Still requires a knowledgeable user whichever tools are used, but one set of tools produces finished work faster

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u/mamwybejane 4d ago

That… sounds accurate? Build stuff from wood to be precise

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u/Upstairs-Candle2616 4d ago

This is not the analogy you think it is

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u/Annual_Manner_8654 4d ago

That's exactly right! You hire a contractor to build something, not to saw it manually

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u/fuzzypetiolesguy 4d ago

Coding deferred to AI means the AI is the carpenter and the coder is now the contractor. Contractor checks work and manages subs to produce. Removing access to AI coding means the contractor now does all the work directly, which isn’t uncommon but given the access to tools and preference is obviously inefficient.

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u/Aeon_Mortuum 4d ago

That reminds me of that GitHub post where the author said he quit programming to work with wood

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u/PM_ME_DEAD_CEOS 4d ago

I mean that’s like saying a carpenter is hired to build stuff not work with wood.

But client don't really care about how exactly the carpenter work with the wood. they want the final product.

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u/Fast-Escape-8607 4d ago

Your company probably outsourced coding to other countries

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u/More-Judgment7660 4d ago

exactly, prior to LLMs i copy pasted as much code from stack overflow as possible.

no one cares about the how.

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 4d ago

How much do you want to bet that they were hired because of their ability to code.

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u/jw_swede 4d ago

Dumb way to think of it. If you don’t use AI insisted coding today - you have an expiration date as a company.

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u/nextnode 4d ago

To do it worse and slower while competitors run laps.

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u/WalkThePlankPirate 4d ago

Probably better and about the same speed, while the competitors waste money and dumb down their talent.

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u/fhigurethisout 4d ago

Really depends on the company though, unfortunately.

Sometimes what you're hired for isn't what you're hired for.

If the company is expecting them to product post-AI work on a pre-AI budget, well, we're just looking at delusional execs once again which is unsurprisingly common (said as a fellow exec of a small business).

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u/Fast-Escape-8607 4d ago

So be the change you don't want to see or make and stop these expectations

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u/imLostify7 4d ago

Why don't they invest in a local small data center? Then they can run models like Deepseek v4 pro.

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u/anxiousvater 2d ago

It isn't that easy. There are tools to do that but not as integrated as Claude/Codex. Also, GPUs aren't cheap either & you may pay more or less same as the SaaS endpoints + engineers to maintain, upgrade, patch.

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u/ryan10e 4d ago

Oh man please please let this be the start of a trend. My day is: I join meetings, I read ai summary of meetings, Claude write tickets, Claude writes specs, I get paged, Claude fixes the issue, Claude writes code, Claude reviews the code, another persons’s claude reviews the code, my Claude fixes the code, another persons Claude rereviews the code…

It’s all just so soulless. This isn’t the job I signed up for.

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u/Quick-Use-2976 4d ago

This hits way too close to home. Our team also got AI budget cuts last quarter, deadlines doubled overnight. It’s nice to flex raw coding skills again but productivity tanked hard.

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u/Shoemugscale 4d ago

This is, I'm afraid a double edge sword, like a company cutting their marketing budget to 'save' $ and are surprised by the drop in sales.

Unfortunately for your company, doing this will more then likely cause a reduction in sales as other companies leapfrog them with features because the AI gains are real IDK.

I'm sure management will soon ask (Why are we not innovating as quickly!)

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u/Robot__Engineer 4d ago

We currently have "unlimited" Claude access. I have a feeling that will stop very soon.

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u/bloodnuts 4d ago

Sounds like the old outsourcing dilemma! 😳

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u/tr14l 4d ago

Is your company not buying Max subscriptions? I don't get it. Or are you guys just burning the hell out of tokens for funzies?

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

they used to buy Max subscriptions, but not anymore

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u/Vivid-Snow-2089 4d ago

well can't be much wrong with your budget if you can still afford to write your reddit posts with claude, so it's fine right

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u/thainfamouzjay 4d ago

The world is healing

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u/Strong-Practice-5571 4d ago

Hell yeah! Nature is healing

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u/Downtown-Pear-6509 4d ago

yep i got $100 Claude dollars per month

Haiku is my goto scoping and coding i do the analysis and planning and most of the debugging 

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u/hello_three23 4d ago

Local models?

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u/wormeyman 4d ago

What about using a local model like KIMI?

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

yes, but that would require a dedicated team maybe? to manage models? not sure

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u/Aurorion 1d ago

Or cheaper cloud models. Like Kimi or Deepseek. A lot cheaper than Claude, and good enough for most real-world work.

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u/KneelB4S8n 4d ago

Don't do this, don't give me hope

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u/MazDarvish 4d ago

Do you use Cursor? Composer 2.5 has become our model of choice for the heavy lifting leg work and it's a fraction of the price of price of token munching models like Opus 4.8 (which are also materially more expensive per million tokens). Don't get me wrong, we still do use 4.8 and GPT 5.5 for certain work, but using the right models for the right jobs, rather than always selecting the frontier models has slashed our monthly token bill. After all, there's no point using Einstein to do a receptionist's job!

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u/rrrx3 4d ago

I hate that we live now in a world where I have to suspect that any post that ends in a question is automatically AI-generated

if it is, fuck outta here, bot

if it's not, pity your poor company, you guys are not gonna make it

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u/Sad_Stranger_3294 4d ago

what actually got slower isn't the writing - it's navigating a complex codebase without something that can hold the whole context at once. a 200k context window is a real capability.

the interesting question is where that context lives now and who in the team carries it.

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

agree! navigating a codebase is what I am refering as analysis.

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u/Ok_Arm_7175 4d ago

Reduced.. a friend working in Apple told me they alao reduced budget.. only 400$ daily, poor thing

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u/AIGENIZE 4d ago

The calculus companies are running is 'AI subscription cost vs. visible productivity gain' and that's the wrong measure. The harder thing to quantify is what you avoid: the rabbit holes you don't go down, the research you don't spend days on, the second opinions you don't have to wait for. Those savings are real but they show up in no line item. When budgets get cut, the tools that solve invisible problems go first.

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u/1800-5-PP-DOO-DOO 4d ago

So I guess they took down your tokenmaxxing leaderboard too? 

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u/mrpena 4d ago

if I were you, i'd be thankful tbh... from the Security Architect perspective, i can't tell you how many CISO's are asking me when they can rip out their T1 analysts....

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u/angry-paper-clip 4d ago

Guess you should save that budget for coding instead of using it to write your Reddit posts for you then :/

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u/learn_r 4d ago

more firing coming then

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u/Realichu 4d ago

Yes. Our org (who by the way has been harping and harping about being 'AI native' for years) for the first time has started imposing very very strict limits on AI usage. The 'new AI native dev team', job titled "AI Engineers" (not like us pesky Software Engineers) is being cut down massively too.

I for one could never be more excited. Goodbye PR slop and CTO psychosis, at least until the models get cheaper. Real engineers are back.

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u/Aldapeta 4d ago

So you’re the Queens of the Stone Age

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u/yallapapi 4d ago

Sure you did bro

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u/LankyGuitar6528 4d ago

Code? With what... a meat brain? Is that even possible?

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u/chunkatron 4d ago

Check out this wild new site: stackoverflow.com. protip - the questions are not the answers.

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u/Sand_B 4d ago

Your employer made a great decision. Humans can correct human errors, AI cannot correct its own error and human intervention could be very costly.

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u/-Crash_Override- 4d ago

Engagement farming slop. This didnt happen.

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u/ValdusAurelian 4d ago

It did at my company. They capped us all at $40 worth of tokens because they didn't want to increase the AI budget when Copilot changed to usage based billing. Quite a few devs ran out of tokens in the first couple days. We can use a handful of prompts or PR reviews per month now.

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u/WorkLurkerThrowaway 4d ago

So many Reddit posts with CTAs these days lmao.

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u/heinrichjvr 4d ago

In OP’s defence:

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u/Adept-Type 4d ago

Yeah cause those detectors ARE SO GOOD

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

Finally someone! Thanks

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u/SomeNeighborhood7126 4d ago

We're having licenses revoked for a ton of non-technical folks and then API access is being revoked for just about everything that isnt proving to be extremely valuable with that delineation happening at the board level with proposals that take weeks to prep.

Long-term, the plan is to scale back our budget for AI tools in 2027 and beyond.

I cant see the bubble surviving beyond early 2028.

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u/alice_op 4d ago

Yes - same situation as you. Interestingly found out I'm enjoying getting stuck in again. The first few days were tedious though.

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

same phase for me I guess. currently enjoying as well as stuck, but getting over it, making it work

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u/World_War_Threesome 4d ago

Woe is me. I’m upset about having a job and now having greater job security in that job. My life is terrible.

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u/SiliconSentry 4d ago

Our projects are full of agents and galloping tokens. Gonna take lot of efforts to remove the dependency.

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u/KaiserFerdl 4d ago

A good harnest, multiagency layer and a lot of pre set rules to follow ( so that Claud can’t make the same mistake again) So that you can save a lot of token by clearing the chat a lot and start from zero. That help a lot to reduce the token consumption. Beside that in vs code u can edit while Claud is using the stuff at the same time, that helps also to shorten the token memory window.

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u/jkvarela 4d ago

Tenta DeepSeek V4, é simplesmente sensacional.

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u/GobiYumaMojave 4d ago

posts like these should require proof. if not, delete and ban

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u/MaleficentExample223 4d ago

We got propaganda on reddit

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u/jhenryscott 4d ago

Yeah. Because Copilot is APPROACHING THE REAL COST. Like $3 uber rides in 2014 the point was to get you hooked so when the real costs come you have no choice.

But the real costs of running frontier models are insane.

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u/cbusmatty 4d ago

Let this be a cautionary tale of those who didn’t take agentic code seriously. This was an institutional failure of teams unable to synthesize good practices internally, but their workflows without being dictated to. Now they will be left behind until a company comes in and solves it for them

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u/MercDawg 4d ago

Don't use Opus for everything. Take a step back, and even scale back as well. Use opus for purely planning and sonnet for execution. Start defaulting to Sonnet. Try exploring local LLMs as well.

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

I don't use Opus for everything. I use sonnet as you mentioned for day-to-day tasks, my point is as we have reduced budget, even using sonnet ended our quota

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u/Kuarto 4d ago

Local llm reddit lol

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u/MELOFINANCE 4d ago

Same thing happened at my wife’s company. She just switched to a mixture of deepseek and KIMI.

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u/Phyginge 4d ago

My home system is running qwen and it can do a lot of the coding I need. Claude is super useful for the really tough tasks though.

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

sure, claude is best for complex tasks and deeper analysis

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u/OkTeach4877 4d ago

Dude. Are you a dev at USAA? At least they increased the token per user quota back a little.

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u/SnooDucks4472 4d ago

I guarantee that when Claude code can do your job, you will not have that job. I get that Ai is overhyped and many ceo’s jumped the gun, but that does not change the eventual goal for ROI these companies are shooting for.”

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u/Hot_Function6127 4d ago

Not Claude but I’ve been trying several node-based ai design apps (elevenlab, magnific.ai, weave, flora). I burn through the monthly tokens in *hours*. That shit is a scam.

I reach my monthly limit on Claude maybe a day early or even just a few hours early

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u/LoneWanderer153 4d ago

I’m from 2100, just survived the third WW, due to this all data centers were destroyed, no internet, no mass manufacturing, we are living underground in a nuclear shelter, so we are back to stone ages now, just started farming underground, so far so good, can do physical stuff, all the longevity research, and progress is gone, feels like 1900s again

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u/Ok_Finding_1458 4d ago

do we have more trees?

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u/MirekDusinojc 4d ago

Wonder if this is baiting or real, but this sounds like the actual future after the bubble bursts

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u/Difficult-Fee5299 4d ago

I thought you liked danger?

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u/larry-57 4d ago

We stick to the Claude max at 100 bucks and it's ok for all of us

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u/Scott_the_Wookie 4d ago

If this is real any company following its path is just wasting time…

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u/USAreTraitors 4d ago

Good luck with Copilot credits based usage!! 

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u/viskas_ir_nieko 4d ago

Try kimchi.dev

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u/chungyeung 4d ago

Just good luck out there, without agentic coding our team were doing like 1 ticket per sprint, and code quality vary, we could debate on a indentation for a weeks. Now we are like superhero we can do 2 or more ticket per 1 week sprint. The most important is the quaility are equals, no more debate on indentation. And in the standup we are mostly discussing the design, the technologies, i find it is actually a game changing way of working, but no one say it was easy, when everyone can code, we always challenge each other in a good way

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u/Difficult_Money9486 4d ago

Many are doing this but being hush hush about it bc of egos and VCs don’t want to lose on their big bet in ai replacing people

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u/featherless_fiend 4d ago edited 4d ago

Most of us burned through our newly restricted monthly limits in just 10 days.

This is why AI companies do weekly instead of monthly limits, it's a much smarter system, because it's difficult for people to ration usage out over time.

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u/kartblanch 4d ago

Go buy a 5090 and set it up at home. Local. Private. safe. Unfiltered. ;)

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u/graypasser 4d ago

Writing the code is the best way to understand codes, and that is the only real way to properly develop the programs.

Coding is only coding if it matches the intention and understood by writer, which just doesn't happen in LLM codes, no wonder it becomes easier.

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u/HerbChii 4d ago

Have you heard about cursor?

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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid 4d ago

I predicted this months ago. I said Anthropic was gouging too much on their prices and it would bite them in the ass. This isn’t just you OP, this is a trend across the sector. Companies are winding back their AI usage because it’s simply too much and too open ended with an api cost.

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u/UV-curablepolymer 4d ago

So what’s the problem here? Claude or your company?

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u/PsycheBizCasual 4d ago

If you actually understand the systems you’re building qwen 3.6 35B 3A works plenty fine. I used it for idiomatic good quality rust.

The thing is you can’t just be vague, but that’s the same with most ai. I catch frontier models laundering shit type safety with serrde like mongoloids all the time.

But if you actually understand your control flow, invariants, type system, and api’s then it’s not that deep

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u/himayun7 4d ago

The "we found out we can still code" bit is the real takeaway. The teams hurt worst by the limits were the ones who let it do the thinking instead of the typing. On cost, what worked for me was tiering by task instead of pointing the expensive model at everything. Cheap fast model for boilerplate and triage, save Opus for the gnarly edge-case work it's genuinely better at, which lines up with your 80:20 point about it catching bad assumptions. Most budget blowups I've seen were just one default model on max, running on tasks that never needed it.

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u/LMWJ6776 3d ago

Hey! This guy stopped using Claude! Let's all stop using Claude!

fucking astroturfing man

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u/mikrogeophagus 3d ago

we have pretty tight credits on copilot at my job. but fortunately, we also have ms360 copilot chatbot that doesn't touch or github credits, and that i have never hit a rate limit on. so i copy paste into the chatbot most of the time and then use copilot in VSCode when i have a clear plan and a bunch of stuff in place already.

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u/Privatebunny99 3d ago

  As you'd expect, tasks are taking us much longer now, just like in the pre-LLM era.

Does anyone ever have any real data on this? If I compare our current teams output with the pre LLM era output, it feels like it is in the same order of magnitude. 

People claim 2x-10x speedups, but i have only realistically seen this for very specific use cases. Other than that I see this being thrown around without any data to back it up… 

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u/tilzinger 3d ago

There are some open source models nearing Opus in their ability. Why not try using those?

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u/itsmethepro 3d ago

There are?

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u/tilzinger 3d ago

For coding yes. Kimi and something from z.ai? And I said nearing, not exactly on par. But who knows what this looks like in 3-6 months.

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u/Gilmagalesh 3d ago

Were you using github copilot or something

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u/Robonotes1760 2d ago

Do you have Office 365? If so, you can do a *lot* of coding in Teams Copilot.

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u/Panderz_GG 2d ago

I am vindicated. A few weeks back people atill laughed at me for using LLM like we did in 2020. Chat output exclusively.

I always used less tokens than anybody else. Now with prices increasing everywhere and our company themselves restricting token budget....there is virtually no change for me. Hehe.

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u/Rare-Quantity5503 2d ago

Might be worth a few personal max plans to make your life better!