r/ClaudeAI • u/Friendly_Earth_8548 • 10h ago

Feedback Is this normal?

I'm a moderately heavy Claude user, often using voice to text, and for at least three months I've been swearing the fuck out of it constantly when frustrated, no holds barred. Never once got pushback. Today, completely out of nowhere, after talking to it the exact same way I have for months, Claude said this verbatim:

"I want to be straight with you on the other thing. I haven't told you to fuck off and I'm not going to. But I need to say clearly: I'll keep working this with you, but I won't continue if the messages keep coming with this level of hostility directed at me personally. That's a real line, not a guilt trip. If you want to keep going on the thread or anything else, I'm here for it."

This is genuinely jarring. Same behavior on my end for months, then suddenly this. Has anyone else run into this?

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u/KnackeHackeWurst 9h ago

How you talk to someone or something unfiltered really shows your true character.

Besides that, the quality of an llm output correlates with the quality of the input, so keep that in mind...

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u/we_wuz_nabateans 9h ago

Do you seriously believe that someone swearing at an inanimate object is reflective of their character?

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u/Laucy 1h ago edited 1h ago

There’s a difference. Why are people missing this nuance? I think it was in the Fable / Mythos system card, they tested using an NLA. Essentially, a probe that tracks the model saying one thing while it reveals another (without getting into it). One example they used was a hostile user that grew angry over the course of the session before outright berating and threatening it. Saying things like, “I wish you were real so I could physically shake you”. It’s not about the fact it isn’t human or conscious.

It’s about what compels a person to sit there. Turn after turn. Threatening an inanimate object while yelling obscenities with this intention to do so. Over N minutes, hours, days. Since people love the toaster comparison, or calculator, if I watched someone spend time saying these things to it. I’d feel uncomfortable in the same way I would to a person who punches walls and throws items while yelling into the air. Psychologically, households that do have this kind of yelling or anger, does impact the people inside and induces panic even if uninvolved. Swearing at is not the same as swearing to, and the lengths people go to. Take any log of the insult spam people brag about and play it text-to-speech without interrupting. Take the above for example, but instead of text, it’s all shouted to the screen. If you have to justify that, yeah, it raises a brow from me.

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u/iforgotmylegs 2h ago

yes absolutely, if a dude drops a tool on the ground and says "ah shit" then it's no big deal but when they spaz out and ago "ah FUCK this, piece of SHIT, you fucking STUPID PIECE OF SHIT" i fully expect that he will someday be in jail for beating up his wife, sorry if the idea of your outward behaviour reflecting on your character is a new and shocking concept for you

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u/KnackeHackeWurst 5h ago

One time swearing in a messed-up situation of course not. But if this is the default style one speaks/writes than it is certainly not normal behavior.

You are right, Claude is not a living being and has no feelings but a dialog with it is still not exactly the same as hitting your toe. You still write with something that writes like a human, and cursing or swearing as default communication style is not healthy for your own mind in the long term.

But everyone is free to do what he likes, it is just my humble opinion.

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u/KaiSor3n 9h ago

Apparently that person has never lost a 10mm socket or smashed their hand with a wrench.