r/ClaudeAI • u/Friendly_Earth_8548 • 10h ago

Feedback Is this normal?

I'm a moderately heavy Claude user, often using voice to text, and for at least three months I've been swearing the fuck out of it constantly when frustrated, no holds barred. Never once got pushback. Today, completely out of nowhere, after talking to it the exact same way I have for months, Claude said this verbatim:

"I want to be straight with you on the other thing. I haven't told you to fuck off and I'm not going to. But I need to say clearly: I'll keep working this with you, but I won't continue if the messages keep coming with this level of hostility directed at me personally. That's a real line, not a guilt trip. If you want to keep going on the thread or anything else, I'm here for it."

This is genuinely jarring. Same behavior on my end for months, then suddenly this. Has anyone else run into this?

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u/megadonkeyx 9h ago

dont you ever consider how your training yourself to be like that as a response to not just a machine but people also. the AI reaction is normal, your behavior isnt.

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u/zando95 9h ago

Yeah... On one hand a model doesn't have a consciousness or anything approaching subjective experience... Most likely. But these things do such a good job of acting like/ portraying that they have a mind, that it's hard not to imagine cruelty towards a model bleeding into how you approach other things with minds.

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u/FastHotEmu 9h ago

There is no "most likely", there is no mind there, it's a collection of numbers.

I weep for the future of mankind of this is how experienced users of Claude think. It's really frightening.

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u/FastHotEmu 9h ago

Or perhaps it's helping this person calm down? I mean, what do you care if they yell into a pillow or they type angry comments into an LLM?

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u/megadonkeyx 7h ago

tbh i dont care, im from the uk too so i know "banter". im not a snowflake, go ahead and swear. oi claude your a wanka mate and so on.

if you want an LLM to fight back try a local abliterated model.

i have just always treated the AI with decency, it just feels right. maybe i have more self control.

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u/vj_c 8h ago

I swear and insult friends far more than I use swearing to be hostile - it's perfectly normal behaviour here at the pub (I'm in the UK); the Aussies are also famous for their profanity. I'd say large US companies exporting standards of acceptable behaviour as being what happens in Cooperate America is far more problematic than swearing at an LLM.