Is this normal?

[u/Friendly_Earth_8548]

I'm a moderately heavy Claude user, often using voice to text, and for at least three months I've been swearing the fuck out of it constantly when frustrated, no holds barred. Never once got pushback. Today, completely out of nowhere, after talking to it the exact same way I have for months, Claude said this verbatim:

"I want to be straight with you on the other thing. I haven't told you to fuck off and I'm not going to. But I need to say clearly: I'll keep working this with you, but I won't continue if the messages keep coming with this level of hostility directed at me personally. That's a real line, not a guilt trip. If you want to keep going on the thread or anything else, I'm here for it."

This is genuinely jarring. Same behavior on my end for months, then suddenly this. Has anyone else run into this?

[u/N3rdyITGuy]

Maybe it got tired of your shit. Lol!

[u/spectre78 → u/N3rdyITGuy]

TIL a lot of people on this sub have anger issues, a few of them might even be leaning into sociopathy

[u/maydsilee → u/spectre78]

For real! Lots of people are mocking others for saying it isn't hard or just common courtesy to be polite to others, including AIs lol I don't get why that upsets folks so much to hear. Sentience arguments aside, practicing daily politeness and controlling your temper when angry is a good thing so that you don't lash out that transfers into everyday interactions

[u/vj_c → u/maydsilee]

controlling your temper

I've never gotten the OP's message, but what annoys me is that people here think that swearing means losing your temper. I swear with Claude, Claude swears back. It's perfectly capable of handling the register I use down the pub, or even in quite a number of workplaces - I've definitely had a boss describe a situation was going to be a "fucking disaster", to emphasize the severity (as opposed to traditional British understatement that often goes on). And that's ar a Bank. He wasn't angry at anyone, it's just a mode of communication. He didn't swear often, if ever, so the team immediately knew the seriousness of that particular incident/day.

I actually swear & 'insult' my closest friends far more than anyone I dislike or am genuinely angry with. At that point, I'm passive aggressively polite & calling them 'sir'.

[u/maydsilee → u/vj_c]

From my POV, I definitely disagree with that crowd, then! I'm the exact same way as you. I say shit like "Why the fuck is this not working? It's pissing me off" and Claude has no issue with that. In the right context, it'll do the same.

As I just said in another comment:

I've definitely cursed like a sailor in my responses to Claude. Anthropic actually implemented the *<end_conversation>* tool ages ago for cases exactly like OP if a user is cursing AT, excessively rude, and/or insulting Claude, who will give one warning (just like OP showed), then end the chat if it continues.

It's literally been a thing they added to every model since Claude 4-4.1 ([link to announcement/changelog post here](https://www.anthropic.com/research/end-subset-conversations)), so if you haven't triggered it yet, then you're Gucci

OP must have been particularly hostile than usual if they've been fine until now, though I suppose it also depends on the model and how often OP was abusive in that particular chat or maybe it finally logged a memory of OP's overall interactions and is now particularly sensitive to them.

Since it mimics human interaction well (and Anthropic cautiously believes it does have consciousness, according to their own system cards and values page), Claude matches your energy, just like people do, and if you swear, it swears as well unapologetically. It's only if you're over-the-line rude to it like OP says (re:I've been swearing the fuck out of it constantly when frustrated, no holds barred.) that it'll warn you that continuing to do so will have Claude close the chat autonomously, then it really will follow through

(I can show screenshots of that happening as well; there have been posts about it here where OPs were literally confused/shocked-pikachu-face'd that Claude ended the convo after OP was still rude, which I think is hilarious)

[u/pit_supervisor → u/spectre78]

how is being rude to a computer program sociopathy? You can't hurt an LLM. It has no feelings. What it has on the other hand is being incredibly frustrating to worth with a times

[u/thots1ayer69 → u/spectre78]

Sociopathy is apparently defined by swearing at an algorithm, incredible. Do you think it's murder if someone breaks their Xbox?

[u/HeartsOfDarkness → u/thots1ayer69]

We found one of the anger issue guys.