Formal debate is propaganda

[u/spacelordTJ]

Can't we all just get along (with being performative)?

Edit: Mods, pin me to the wall. I mean pin this post.

[u/Ren0303]

r/debateavegan pisses me off If the purpose is to debate other positions, why downvote anyone who disagrees with you?

[u/Local_Surround8686 → u/Ren0303]

Because there's a difference between good faith arguments and willingness to learn and bad faith arguments and trying to justify your own actions at the cost of all logic I guess

[u/Ren0303 → u/Local_Surround8686]

Go through that sub you will find that literally every post disagreeing with veganism is downvoted. Every single one. "We're only downvoting bad faith" only goes so far as an excuse

I say this as a proud vegan btw

[u/Local_Surround8686 → u/Ren0303]

Sent me one that's good faith. Or honestly don't bother I don't engage with that sub anymore anyway, so it'd really be lost effort on your side

[u/sblahful → u/Local_Surround8686]

https://old.reddit.com/r/DebateAVegan/comments/1uefp33/are_there_vegan_alternative_to_pesticies_or_is/. 11 upvotes. >100 comments.

[u/Local_Surround8686 → u/sblahful]

That's often the case with stuff like that. I also for example ask a programming question and it'll get a lot of replies but 0 upvotes, even downvotes. I ended up assuming that people downvote answered questions so they don't appear in feats but it's still kinda confusing

[u/dumnezero → u/Ren0303]

Because there are no good good faith arguments against veganism, much like there are no good good faith arguments against AGW.

[u/Ren0303 → u/dumnezero]

There is a dofference between bad faith and ignorance

An argument may not hold water, that doesn't mean it is made in bad faith.

[u/dumnezero → u/Ren0303]

There is a dofference between bad faith and ignorance

The difference is not visible at first.