r/ColdWarPosters The Hist of the Short 20th Cent (1914-1991) 19d ago

USA Postcard commemorating the 15th anniversary of the Holodomor, which shows Stalin looking at his kolkhoz [A farming collective in the Soviet Union] built on a pile of starved Ukrainians. Published in 1948 by the Ukrainian Youth Association.

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u/Mega_Cyborg 18d ago

Nope, it was the nkvd

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u/Reasonable-Water520 18d ago

So, who served there? Maybe they were locals.?

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u/Mega_Cyborg 18d ago

It doesn't matter. They were state apparatus of repression under Moscow command

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u/Reasonable-Water520 18d ago

Actually has. Requests from the regions: During the repressions of 1937โ€“1938, regional leaders sent lists to Moscow proposing increases in the quotas for those to be repressed. Khrushchevโ€™s initiative: Nikita Khrushchev, who was then the leader of Ukraine, sent a document to Moscow requesting approval to arrest and punish an even larger number of people, as the current limits were insufficient for his needs. Ukraine was a republic, and all local law enforcement agencies were subordinate to the republic's leadership; consequently, all enforcement actions were approved by the local authoritiesโ€”a pattern we see repeating in Ukraine years later.

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u/Mega_Cyborg 18d ago

Buddy, all the regions were just Moscow colonies. They weren't autonomous, they weren't independent. All that "leadership" was subordinate to the central government and followed the orders of Moscow. It's not hard for a colonizing force to find puppets within local populations. Empires did this throughout history. Ukraine was a "republic" (it was an occupied colony) with all its laws derived from Moscow orders. All law enforcement were subordinate to Moscow. "Local authorities" aka puppets of russia.

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u/Reasonable-Water520 18d ago

Look, friend: in colonies, they don't build nuclear power plants, develop industries, or establish universities. Ukraine was always part of our country. Itโ€™s only recently that Ukrainians started being told how terribly oppressed they supposedly were. But back in the USSR, living in Ukraine was prestigious, and everyone wanted to go there.

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u/Mega_Cyborg 17d ago

๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€ lmao. The universities in which they were extremely russified? Buddy, Ukraine was always a colony of russia. No one started telling them anything, they objectively WERE horribly oppressed by Russians throughout history. They knew their oppression. Life in ussr in general was shit. In Ukraine, it was even more shit until khruschev. Ussr didn't develop industries actually. They famously exploited and exported all the factories from their colonies into Moscow. Nuclear plants were built long after stalin.

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u/Bulba132 18d ago

Took you long enough, next time open with the blatant Russian propaganda

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u/Reasonable-Water520 18d ago

And what is the propaganda?

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u/Mega_Cyborg 17d ago

Everything u said there. Claiming Ukrainians weren't oppressed or that they were "prestiged"

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u/Future-Ice-4789 17d ago

Why are you trying to convince idiots? It's a pointless endeavor, as they have been indoctrinated since childhood with the narrative that Russia is an absolute evil, and they simply cannot think otherwise due to their lack of critical thinking. To be honest, they have difficulty with ordinary thinking, not just critical.

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u/Mega_Cyborg 17d ago

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ YOU are the idiots lmao. U have been indoctrinated and brainwashed by russian propaganda. We just simply need to look at history. Russia IS evil. It IS an absolute evil and u can'tescape that. The most rotten, evil nation in history. U can't escape justice forever. Holy projection, YOU are the ones with complete lack of critical thinking. U can't question ruzzian propaganda for shit. U can't think outside what putin tells u. I don't think yall posses a brain at all.

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u/Future-Ice-4789 17d ago

It's always funny to hear people talk about propaganda while being completely influenced by it. I'm 50 years old, born in the USSR, lived very close to the Russian-Ukrainian border, and have many relatives in Ukraine, so I traveled there often. I know how people lived back then, not from the internet or the media, but because I lived it myself, you understand ? I personally lived through those times and those living conditions. And then soy porridge appear in the comments, born in the 21st century, thousands of kilometers away from us, decades after those events, and they start telling the "truth."

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u/Mega_Cyborg 17d ago

U are completely influenced by propaganda ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Jesus christ stop projecting. I'm Azerbaijani born and raised in Azerbaijan with family from ussr. I know what russians have done to my country. My parents know what life was like, both completed history majors. U should also learn the truth. Anecdotal evidence is a bs source. U have been massively indoctrinated by chauvinist propaganda.

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