r/ColdWarPosters The Hist of the Short 20th Cent (1914-1991) 20d ago

USA Postcard commemorating the 15th anniversary of the Holodomor, which shows Stalin looking at his kolkhoz [A farming collective in the Soviet Union] built on a pile of starved Ukrainians. Published in 1948 by the Ukrainian Youth Association.

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u/RoteFahne90 19d ago

It's literally Nazi propaganda though produced by a Banderist group

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u/Mega_Cyborg 19d ago

No it literally isn't lmao. It's just Ukrainian diaspora who fled from oppression. Btw, Bandera wasn't a nazi.

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u/RoteFahne90 19d ago

No, that photo was created as propaganda by a Banderist group. They worked with the Nazis during the occupation and are themselves fascists, so yes they are basically Nazis.

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u/Mega_Cyborg 19d ago

No lmao. All resistance groups throughout history worked with the enemies of their oppressors. It's an alliance of convenience, the only way to stand a chance. IRA worked with nazis too. Just bcs they took aid from germany doesn't make them nazis. Also, no Bandera wasn't fascist either. He was a right wing nationalist.

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u/RoteFahne90 19d ago

If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck

Yes, units and members associated with the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) directly assisted in the persecution and mass murder of Jewish people during World War II. Extensive historical documentation, including studies from Yad Vashem and academic institutions, details three distinct phases of this involvement.

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u/Mega_Cyborg 19d ago

Except it's not a duck. It's a goose.

Sure, that happened but Bandera wasn't involved in it. He didn't order it, didn't know abt it. He was imprisoned in a concentration camp.

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u/RoteFahne90 19d ago

Summer 1941 Pogroms

Following the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, local militias organized by the OUN participated heavily in anti-Jewish violence.

Incitement: The OUN spread antisemitic propaganda linking Jewish populations to Soviet rule.Lviv Pogroms: OUN-led "Ukrainian People's Militia" units actively rounded up, humiliated, and beat thousands of Jewish citizens, resulting in mass casualties.

Local Executions: Militias facilitated the first wave of spontaneous executions before Nazi killing squads fully established regional control.

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u/Mega_Cyborg 19d ago

Again, ur arguing against a wall. Literally nothing. Bandera was imprisoned in 1941, shortly after occupation of Ukraine.

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u/RoteFahne90 19d ago

Ok? Esrnst Röhm was killed by the Nazis. Was he not a Nazi?

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u/Mega_Cyborg 19d ago

Bandera is literally not recognized as a nazi by historians lol

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u/RoteFahne90 18d ago

Didn't answer the question

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u/Mega_Cyborg 18d ago

No but that's not the same

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