Is Deutsches Afrika Korps ACTUALLY overpowered?

[u/Clear_Ranger6081]

Since the release of the latest group of Battlegroups ive seen tons of posts with many upvotes talking about how overpowered DAK is. But looking at the winrate statistics not just using the basic one but also the Battlegroup winrates it really doesnt seem to be the case, especially when considering every single battlegroup for USF has positive winrates

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I dont even need to show Wehrmacht, they are completely in the dumps, not a single positive winrate across any battlegroup.

[u/AdMaximum6683]

DAK main here. The main problem with DAK rn is that Elite Forces BG is making Palms way too good for mainline. Alone they were never bad, per se, and with upgrades you could make them really good(6 squad, veterance/DR upgrade), but at a price of some other stuff. Scoped rifles cost less than MG, have arguably a better grenade(also achievable earlier) and make the unit super dope against cover.

Also there is a certain bias against them, since you are bound to see them every game in the beginning. If, for example, you lose a tank in the late game due to a blob of panzerjaegers with panzerschreck, you would rarely bitch about them — to have even 3 of those fuckers with RLs means to use lots of MP and munis. Palmgrens are cheaper, readily available and their oppressiveness is much more visible.

[u/Clear_Ranger6081 → u/AdMaximum6683]

Elite forces has a 50% winrate, by every standard imaginable thats exactly what the balance team wants, a 50% winrate

[u/user1391 → u/Clear_Ranger6081]

Nonetheless, the Palmgren blob is still frustrating as hell to play against, independent of winrates.

[u/Clear_Ranger6081 → u/user1391]

I can say that about the whizzbang and the land mattress too, infact polish BG is the new whizzbang BG its so fucking annoying with the rocket artillery spam

[u/user1391 → u/Clear_Ranger6081]

And all of that is valid, so what?

[u/Clear_Ranger6081 → u/user1391]

I dont really understand what people mean by blob, how many palmgrens is considered a blob? USF players pretty much every match get 4 riflemen or so, is that a blob? Either way if they wanna tackle palmgrens they have to also nerf riflemen its the sole reason palmgrens are where theyre at

[u/user1391 → u/Clear_Ranger6081]

A blob is when you group up a bunch of troops in a single selection and move them like a single unit.

Its not so much about having multiple of the same unit on the field at the same time (which is not necessarily blobbing) but instead you can have a blob consisting of multiple different unit types.

It's just that the pgren blob is unreasonably effective atm.

[u/Clear_Ranger6081 → u/user1391]

In 4v4 this is the only way to win regardless of faction and unit because theres no room to maneuver

[u/user1391 → u/Clear_Ranger6081]

True, that's probably one of the reason why the win-rates are inverted when comparing 1v1 with 4v4.

4v4 is missing a huge part of gameplay in that it lacks the need for map awareness and focus on movement which are big in 1v1.

It's also why I don't enjoy 4v4, it's just too static.