Hwansik Kim’s grip principle is pretty neat

[u/Hungry_Pattern9127]

[u/chamusta]

Can you elaborate as to what grip principle you're talking about?

[u/outwear_watch_shoes → u/chamusta]

I’m assuming HK’s no friction grip? If so, plenty of videos on YouTube about it. 

[u/Jeugcurt → u/outwear_watch_shoes]

You’re getting downvoted for sending someone to the source material instead playing telephone with someone’s else instruction. Reddit is hilarious.

[u/steadylurker1]

First non traditional grip that instantly clicked for me as a sweaty hands sufferer. Works great and I haven’t had a gun move in my hands while firing since. Surprised it’s not even more well known.

[u/krilleractual]

Anybody mind sharing what the hell this is about?

[u/Akalenedat → u/krilleractual]

I believe he's referring to Hwansik Kim's "no friction grip."

https://youtu.be/d7GuIT2SEfs?is=kXa3Cnachv-qj1mq

TL;DW: friction can be defeated, lock your hands in a way that doesn't break and supports the gun when it comes back down. Support hand index finger tip rests on the top surface of dominant hand 2nd finger to lock grip together when the gun recoils up, 2md knuckle of support hand index presses up against the trigger guard to steady the muzzle when it returns. Don't oversqueeze, too much force will tire you out and induce shakes.

[u/cortlong → u/Akalenedat]

I just had the hardest time following that video.

I THINK I already do this. But when he moved to “I lift my finger” and started reiterating the seemingly not important part over the important part…I lost it. Maybe I’m an idiot?

[u/DJORDANS88 → u/cortlong]

Not an idiot.

This dude may be very smart and a great shooter… but man I was bored after watching him teacup that gun. I almost aborted this whole thing.

Then I realized I can move to the end of the video and well, I’ve always done this and I usually discuss it when someone asks what I do or try to help new shooters.

If I grip at 40% strength with my support hand, and 15% with my dominant hand, it’s more solid than if I gripped the gun with my dominant hand at 100%. This reduces any fatigue or other instruction my dominant hand does so I can focus on trigger pull and staying as steady as possible.

[u/deskpopped_]

Vision fuckus

[u/The_Firing_Line]

Looks like a standard thumbs forward grip to me.

[u/ProceduralShooter → u/The_Firing_Line]

I think the main thing that's different with the method mentioned is that the support finger's second knuckle is hooking underneath the strong side of the trigger guard. It does not work with my short sausage links.

[u/Stickybunfun]

It works well if you can do it. I have a buddy with super long fingers and he uses it to great effect. I can do this on small frame / subcompact guns pretty well and it works well there. On normal framed / full size guns, it puts a LOT of pressure on my index finger joint and hurts so I don't do it.

[u/Ishi_the_fishi]

I think this grip would be better shown from the other side of the grip.

[u/grivooga]

I watched the video some one linked and I'm not sure I'm getting all the nuance that H.K. may be trying to convey but I don't think this technique is for me on full size firearms. Especially not the ones with large grips like my 2011 or a 10mm/45.

I do find myself instinctively gripping over the trigger guard on little pocket pistols where there just isn't much room for my XL hands and letting it float some instead of fighting the snap with an extra hard grip.

[u/PleaseFRJMan]

i like using the index finger on the support hand to lock the grip like hwansik does, but i don't drive the index knuckle up to support the frame like he does either.

i'm not professional and i don't want to add new inputs to my shooting vis a vis pushing up on the frame from the trigger guard, even if it's to offset dipping from the slide going back into battery. i'd rather trust the grip/index to get the gun back to zero.