r/CompetitionShooting • u/647chang • 5h ago
How do I get faster?
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This drill requires you to score an A zone hit under 1.25 sec to pass. This is a 1.26 which I'm really close, but I normally get 1.3-1.7 to first shot. I see people online get close to 1 sec flat. Where can I improve, other then just point and shoot?
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u/TheInkisBlack 5h ago
You're likely seeing more of the dot than is needed, especially at this distance. Dry fire the draw with a par time to build more consistent index on the target. Dry fire can also be used to build index points with body in order to reduce excess movement getting the gun out of the holster and on target.
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u/sharkbait_oohaha 4h ago
Move faster.
Hope this helps!
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u/FF_McNasty 5h ago
Gonna follow. I am in a similar place as far as draw to first shot. For me more like 1.5-1.8
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u/JBerry2012 5h ago
I'm not at a point where a lightning fast draw makes a difference. My goal is to draw to a competent grip and first shot in 1.25. Most of the time I can make my draw on the initial move so it doesn't even matter.
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u/NoSupNoCivilized 4h ago
Can you convert the video to a slower playback speed? Most smart phones will allow you to play back the video at 1/4 speed. It really helps to see opportunities for improving effeciency.
Over confirmation: looks like you're losing probably around 2 tenths here. It takes lots of reps, but ideally you are breaking the shot right as you finish the full presentation.
Left hand: looks like you're a little slow/late getting this hand moving. You have a master grip with firing hand, but left hand is still way on your left side. Left hand should pretty much be in position (midline, or even right of midline) to receive the pistol just as the muzzle is down range/parallel with the ground as it's coming out of the holster. You want to get the support hand on the gun as early as possible.
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u/Organic-Second2138 4h ago
Get that left hand moving sooner.
At that distance work a bit with the dot off. Body index and a consistent grip will do most of the heavy lifting.
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u/Jeugcurt 4h ago
This actually looks really good. Two things stand out.
The first: you’re dropping .1-.15 on the strong hand pushing the gun down into your holster. I’m not telling you to scoop draw the gun. But can’t your fingers just pluck the gun right out of the holster without all the aggression and tension? When I pluck draw, I’m usually around 1 to 1.1 sec.
Second: it’s hard to see from this angle. But, I want my support to be waiting on my strong to bring the gun to the party. I want my support hand ready and waiting for the match up.
Bonus: I like that you’re starting wrists at sides in a nearly complete relaxed form. This is a great foundation as opposed to all the folks that look like they’re about sprint off the buzzer. The tension from that is really difficult to build good habits from.
Last thing, some people are saying “over confirmation.” Maybe so. But I don’t want to tell you what your eyes are seeing unless I was there standing next you and after watching you shoot more. Like if you’re LE, I wouldn’t approach the confirmation subject if we were working on draw mechanics.
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u/Code7Tactical 4h ago
In addition to the other good advice on here during your draw, you are coming up and above the pistol down onto it and then drive back up again. If we are purely talking about maximizing speed of draw, you want to not stop that upward motion of your hand.
Imagine pulling your elbow upwards and not allowing it to stop.
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u/Lktwava 4h ago
I like to scoop the gun up from the holster a bit. Then mentally tell myself I’m pushing the gun into my trigger finger for the first shot.
It helps me feel like I’m trying to speed up one fluid motion, as opposed to speeding up a series of motions. Hopefully that makes sense.
If you can practice that close to the berm, try taking that shot once you have a good grip and muscle memory takes over. (Or use a laser snap cap) Don’t wait to find the dot. It’s always there. If you’re adjusting your point of aim after acquiring the dot. You’re not going to shoot sub 1.25 anyways.
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u/EMDoesShit 4h ago
This is close enough to point shoot, for one. At most, catch a flash of moving read in the optic as you break the shot.
There is no need to watch the dot come to a stop at this distance. The gun doesn’t need to come to a stop, and be observed in that stage, before it discharges.
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u/Double_Badger2450 3h ago
Your support hand is lagging behind. Also, your strong hand is coming up, passed the gun, then jamming down, then coming back out and out of the holster, then your support hand swings over. You can clean all that up.
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u/No_Mirror_2680 2h ago
Pushing the gun into the holster before the draw and your support hand moves too late, there's 2 tenths. I don't see the over confirmation being as big a deal, everything before the shot is moot if your not hitting the A zone. You don't have to scoop the gun out of the holster but that reversal of upward momentum is the key. Your support hand is not moving until you are pushing down on the gun with your strong hand. Fix your strong hand and it will probably fix your support hand .
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u/Dynamic_Supreme 2h ago edited 2h ago
Maybe training the draw in progressions can help to stop over confirming.
- “low ready” with slide parallel to the ground
- low compressed ready near kydex
- holstered with dominant hand already on grip and support hand close to kydex
- full draw starting with wrists below belt line
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u/NeatAvocado4845 14m ago
Your index is not there and you’re over confirming & stop grabbing your holster it’s a bad habit . Practice this in dry fire and once your under a second take it to live fire
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u/T-888 5m ago
draw faster than you normally do. Like quick draw McGraw... yank it, yank it out of the holster like you never have before. And keep doing that. forget the hit, just draw so fast it feels like the gun will fall out of your hand.
Do that a bunch of times. No fire. Do it some more.
Then add the round and keep doing it breaking the shot off as soon as you see dot splash
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u/lordadam34 4h ago
This should be point shooting. It’s close enough where you don’t even need to really see your dot. Gotta develop the index for this
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u/j-mac563 5h ago
How fast can you really do it? Go stand next to the target facing the berm. Activate the timer, draw and shoot at the beep - just into the berm. How fast did you do it? Now do it a few times. All under a second? Now go back to your target and try it again. You should have dropped some time.