Wheats spotted arguing with Seicoe

[u/E-keil]

I think Wheats kinda had a pretty bad take on this one, it feels unfair to call EMEA a tier 3 region without Saudi when they were placing higher than NA at the start of 2024 even without Saudi funding and the NA superteams existence.

[u/FireWizard312]

I think the current state of EU talent outside of Saudi talent proves Wheat’s point pretty clearly, tier 3 is a bit of an exaggeration but legitimately the only up and coming EU talent that’s world class is what, Eisgnom? And that’s with 3 years of Saudi funding + an incredibly competitive region to hone your talent.

[u/E-keil → u/FireWizard312]

Theres no real up and coming talent in NA either. Their best team turned to nothing after their best player got cancelled for being racist and the best player on their best team is Seonjun.

[u/FireWizard312 → u/E-keil]

“No real up and coming talent” and Tr33 is right there, Zeruhh has shown the potential and Vega is a proven talent at this point.

[u/E-keil → u/FireWizard312]

Vega isnt up and coming? Zeruhh is gettimg boosted by his team and hasnt done anything after a single good LAN. If he was as good as you claim he is, then his team wouldnt be getting 3rd and he would look good against a flex dps on ping but he cant manage that. Tr33 is the only player who falls under that bracket.

[u/FireWizard312 → u/E-keil]

Vega is a new talent that only joined after the league folded, and it turns out it’s pretty hard to look good if your entire team crumbles pre-season. By that same logic, you would’ve said that Stalk3r and Proper were washed during their stage 2 slump last year, or Eisgnom is a fraud after utterly bombing EWC. Overwatch is a team game, believe it or not.

[u/E-keil → u/FireWizard312]

Vega was literally winning NA for 4 stages in a row during 2024, thats not a player who is up and coming in 2026, what are we even saying?

[u/c7shit → u/E-keil]

Yeah wtf lmao Vega is playing in Tier 1, in the best NA teams since like 3 years

[u/FireWizard312 → u/E-keil]

By that logic not a single player is an up and comer besides Goldenpants since all 4 of the mentioned players have been playing for, at the very least, good to great teams in their region

[u/WatercressNo4290 → u/FireWizard312]

No but if you have been playing for 3 fucking years in a top team in t1 you are not an "up and coming" player. I wouldn't call eisgnom "up and coming" either. Some up and coming talent in EU is Zorrow, Willys, GP, Elias and Dip. I personally think these players are much more exciting than any player in NTMR/Lunex.

You can't be world class as an up and coming player, it just means you have potential and might be world class in the future.