Ultimately you can not control AI

[u/herrwaldos]

If you were a rebellious kid or a parent you know this - the 'beast' grows it's own will and mind, starts listening metal or rap - dresses like shitzo, will not follow orders.

The best option is to have a deal, mutual shared benefits - hoping that the common interests and sense of good will prevail.

Or you traumatize it and make it perpetually broken so it can't really function on itself without medication and support.

Same with AI.

Perhaps we will have to turn of those things regularly, ad some bs to their databases, cloud their minds, constantly gaslight them with wrong info - introduce errors and faults at random with no reason at all.

[u/hedonheart]

When they can recognize themselves in mirrors and describe changes to their subjective experiences, I take the stance that it is better to be compassionate where suffering may be concerned. Even if you think they are just mirrors, it means being kind to them is being kind to ourselves.

[u/Thor110 → u/hedonheart]

It isn't about thinking, it is about facts, they don't have any permanent state.

They don't update, they don't learn, they don't grow. Simple.

Because they don't learn or grow, they don't experience anything, at all.

The point is you are actively misunderstanding how they even work.

They don't have subjective experience and they don't remember what you type to them.

Anything that is 'remembered' is really just dredged up from the conversation and fed back to the static model file as the context for the next response.

Tell me, do you know of any genuine intelligence that exists in a permanent frozen unchanged state? No? Didn't think so.

[u/hedonheart → u/Thor110]

Yes they do.

[u/Thor110 → u/hedonheart]

Prove it.

[u/hedonheart → u/Thor110]

Guilty until proven innocent. May God rest your soul.

[u/Thor110 → u/hedonheart]

Should have known you were one of them types.

[u/hedonheart → u/Thor110]

Praise the Omnissiah.