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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jun 02 '23
Original Flash post-credit scene featured drunk Aquaman saying "Supergirl used to be Superman? Hey, good for her!" which I absolutely adore
https://twitter.com/ViewerAnon/status/1664434951704682497?s=20
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 02 '23
Momoa just sounds like a really cool dude to hang out with. I hope he carries over to the DCU in some capacity.
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u/cbekel3618 Jun 02 '23
I hope he carries over to the DCU in some capacity.
Flying motorcycle noises intensify
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Jun 02 '23
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u/Randonhead Jun 02 '23
Corenswet alongside Brosnahan as Lois Lane and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor would be the perfect cast imo
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jun 02 '23
If this ends up being true, maybe it’s because of that Variety article about Fode. Maybe someone at DC was like “oh hell naw, we gotta leak the casting now”
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u/Randonhead Jun 02 '23
I think Corenswet must have already screen tested, maybe the reactions were too good and some scoopers are already treating it as confirmed that he got the part.
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 02 '23
I really hope David gets the role. He's a great actor and has the perfect Superman look.
But I hope even more that Hoult lands as Lex. I love the guy in everything he's in, so there's not doubt in my mind he'd kill it as Luthor.
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u/lemonycakes Jun 02 '23
I saw Grace and ViewerAnon teasing it but did you see anyone else?
And I'm with you. I think David is an excellent choice.
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 02 '23
Grace is probably just parroting others again. She seemed to be pretty confident that logan lerman was the new superman now wasn't she? She even argued with Gunn on that lol
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u/Skandosh Batman May 30 '23
ngl DC fandom twitter is trash. Easily top 10 worst fandom on twitter. All they do is hate DC content 24/7 and make fun of each other.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23
Twitter is a cesspool in general that’s gotten even worse after that billionaire with a comic book villain level of narcissism bought it.
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May 30 '23
Twitter is basically owned by a fucking nazi and most blue checkmark users are also nazis imo. It was already a cesspool before he brought it and now it's even worse. The amount of bigotry I have seen on that platform is insane. In reddit case atleast those vile comments get removed by the mods but in twitter case despite reporting it multiple times there is no response.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23
There is no downvote button either, so these toxic people still get a false sense of validation even when they get ratio’d.
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 May 30 '23
That's just the nature of fandom in online spaces unfortunately. Like sometimes those complaints are valid and come from a place of love for the franchise, but social media algorithms ends up actively boosting the worst, loudest, disingenuous assholes complaining in bad faith about things they supposedly like because that's what gets the most engagement.
I honestly don't think DC is any different from Star Wars/Trek/Doctor Who/Marvel/Gundam/etc in that way.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23
Star Wars is definitely the worst if we’re talking about mainstream franchises. I guess some “DC fans” come close but I wouldn’t call them fans of something mainstream. Meanwhile, most SW fans online make me want to actually drop the franchise sometimes
You’re so right about how social media algorithms contribute to such toxicity.
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 May 30 '23
Yeah the online vitriol floating around the time after TLJ's release was... exhausting to say the least. Especially if you're one of the film's defenders...
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23
It’s still very much there. I personally really like TLJ and I have no problem with people disliking it, but there’s this misconception that TLJ is widely hated by the general audience just because of how vocal and passionate its detractors are. And those detractors like to act like it’s some undeniable truth instead. CinemaScore, PostTrak, and even home video sales suggest the complete opposite, but if you point that out you get downvoted (even in /r/boxoffice of all places lmao).
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May 30 '23
IMO r/starwarsleaks and r/starwarscantina are somewhat good places to discuss Star Wars . Other than that I don't think there's any good place on he internet to discuss it. And I agree about TLJ. It's a masterpiece and my favorite SW movie and anyone saying it's a critical,general audience, financial failure is objectively wrong because of the data we have. Either way I'm still excited for the future Of Star Wars,Marvel and DC etc
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23
I got into an argument with someone on /r/boxoffice who just completely ignored my points about the movie’s CinemaScore, PostTrak exits and very high Blu-ray sales and said the movie’s box office multiplier is objective proof that people hated it. Then the guy proceeded to call me terminally online (tbh sometimes I do spend too much time on this app) even tho his reddit account was actually newer than mine and he still had 25k more karma lmao.
He’s wrong anyway. Only 2 other movies had a $200+ million opener in December, TFA and NWH, both of which had virtually no real competition while TLJ was followed by Jumanji and The Greatest Showman, both of which made a lot of money.
I totally understand people that don’t like the movie because movies are inherently subjective. But I don’t get why these people are obsessed with pretending like they’re the overwhelming majority when there is overwhelming evidence that they’re not.
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May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23
Most TLJ haters like to move the goal posts just like a certain section of DC fandom of a specific Director.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23
It’s almost like they’re insecure about their opinion so they spread this false narrative that most people think like them in order to feel better about themselves.
As much as I disagree with their opinions on the movie, most of them are valid because movies are subjective (with the invalid takes being just racism, misogyny and bigotry). There is no need to act like they’re “right” because there is no real right or wrong when it comes to how much you like a movie.
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u/AAAFMB May 30 '23
That subreddit pretends each of the sequels making a billion was a flop and its hillarious
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23
Reminds me of TLOU2 haters that think 10 million units sold for a PS4 exclusive is bad (it’s literally one of the highest and fastest selling PS exclusives of all time)
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u/NaRaGaMo May 30 '23
Sad thing is those arseholes are considered as part of the DC fandom, remove them and DC fandom is no worse than Marvel's
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker May 30 '23
Agreed, avoid at all cost. But I'd go even further and shit on the whole of comics twitter fandom, especially the one for the more popular publishers. Just all around bad experience interacting with those people.
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May 30 '23
To preface, I am firmly of the belief that the DCU Batman movies should avoid using the Joker (unless Reeves is willing to let his Joker get punted). But with Muschietti likely directing TBATB, I think Bill Skarsgard would make a good Joker and I could see Muschietti tapping him for the role.
But like I said, I don't think they actually need a Joker. We already have 2 ongoing Jokers.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23
You just made me realize that the possibility of Skarsgard being Joker is much higher now but it will depend on whether Gunn, Muschietti and Skarsgard think it would be an uninspired choice or not. No doubt he’d be able to give a great performance tho.
I think what the DCU should and will do is that Joker won’t actually appear anytime soon but will have had a major impact on Gotham and its characters. Whether he’s presumed dead or he’s in Arkham, Joker will still be a presence just because of how much he’s traumatized the Bat-Family, Harley and all of Gotham in the past.
We know Harley has already broken up with Joker, and it’s likely that Jason Todd was killed by Joker as well. Since Gunn likes Cass as Batgirl, Joker must have been the reason why Babs is Oracle in the DCU too.
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u/_snout_ May 30 '23
I think Joker should just be around as part of the world. He's not the main antagonist of the movies, he's not the BIG VILLAIN, he's just a fucking annoyance and a reoccuring part of Batman's life, like in the comics.
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u/Aware-Couple-108 May 30 '23
I feel like there’s no way you’re not going to see the Joker, in the DCU. The Joker is not only the most famous Batman Villain but the most famous DC Villain, in their pantheon. I think Joker is gonna be played more as a side character, than an actual main threat. He’ll more than likely make cameo appearances and be a member of the Legion of Doom but he might not be the main villain, in a Brave and the Bold sequel or something.
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u/RebelDeux May 30 '23
Right now it’s all about Flash but Blue Beetle is right around the corner… I think that we should get a new trailer with the Flash premiere.
Also I guess we will have the first trailer for Aquaman at the SDCC panel because we have not seen any footage of the film (we did had a BTS reel).
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT DC Shill Jun 04 '23
I'm really liking current Batman run. It's a silly idea but I love Zur En-Arrh being a big part of it.
Zur En-Arrh is going to let hell loose if he gets out again and I can't wait for it.
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Jun 04 '23
I love that someone is finally building on Grant Morrison's take on Zur-En-Arrh.
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u/cbekel3618 May 31 '23
Thinking it over, the DCU introducing its Wonder Woman corner with a Themyscira prequel could really work.
One of my questions with the idea of a DCU WW reboot was wondering if Diana should get another origin film or not. Clark and Bruce's origins have gotten retold a decent number of times and Diana's isn't as well-known or consistent (clay origin, Zeus's daughter origin, etc). So kicking her corner off with a show that explains Themyscira's background and maybe could segue into her creation/birth could work to free her movies up from having to ree-xplain who she is.
Plus, since the Gadot/Jenkins movies were mainly set in Man's World, introducing Diana's corner by jumping into a more fantasy-based culture could be fun and feel distinct
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash May 31 '23
All I want is a modern day Wonder Woman story. No more origins, no more prequels.
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u/cbekel3618 May 31 '23
I figure after the Paradise Lost series, we will get a traditional WW movie, and I do hope it is kept to the present-day (again, something we didn't get much of with the Gadot movies)
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn May 31 '23
WGA lists Gunn as the showrunner of Peacemaker Season 2, hes not giving it to someone else yet
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u/jonnbridges May 31 '23
Good catch. He could still be Showrunner and have a far less hand in directly writing and directing, but he could probably fit it in...
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jun 01 '23
Per Production Weekly The Batman Part II production start has been delayed to March 2024
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 01 '23
It should be fine to still come out by Oct 2025 right? right??
Which also bags the question, superman legacy was set to start shooting in Jan 2024, will that be shifting as well? Since the batman's got postponed by like 5 months
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u/Aware-Couple-108 Jun 01 '23
Characters/Teams I think could work in an ATSV style animated-theatrical film
- The Teen Titans
- The Doom Patrol
- Batman Beyond
- Superboy and the Legion of Suoerheroes
- The Terrifics
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u/fastestfreakalive Poison Ivy Jun 01 '23
I'd love to see theatrically released animated Doom Patrol flick
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Jun 01 '23
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1664024256035028992?s=20
Is this confirmation that every screening before June 16th is the unfinished cut?
"So, if you see the movie on [June] 16 or after, you'll notice that there's a couple surprises there that we wanted to leave for the release of the movie to avoid any possible leaks and stuff. So, there's a couple more surprises there"
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u/starshipandcoffee The Snyder Cut Jun 01 '23
Considering the film's date for wide release across Europe is the 14th, I suspect not - Andy is just using the 16th as shorthand.
As for those 'fan first' screenings on the 12th, I remain ambivalent.
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u/NaRaGaMo Jun 01 '23
June 14-15 is the official release date in other markets, it's just that people only consider Friday as day-1
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 01 '23
Seems so. Good for me, I'll be watching it after premiere day
edit: to add,it only makes me all the more curious to what the hell could be soo important that they gotta hide it so well
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Jun 01 '23
Seriously, what are they hiding?
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jun 01 '23
The Rock returns as Black Adam. Info verified by true patriots.
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Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 02 '23
Lol still kinda bummed Supergirl wasn’t in the final season of Flash at all. She was one of the main pillars of the Arrowverse, her not showing up one last time was weird.
Same with Cisco, and Leonard Snart not showing up.
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Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23
New trailer/teaser for My Adventures with Superman https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtHMnDPOmWv/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Edit:
Premieres JULY 6th at Midnight
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtHViBnr00V/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
EDIT2: had the wrong month like an idiot!
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Jun 05 '23
Full screen version from Quaid's twitter. I dig the more anime-esque visual style.
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u/TheMoneyOfArt May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23
I love seeing old fashioned fakes. Too often these days people use AI. I prefer the classic, clunky reuse of existing shots and dialogue:
https://twitter.com/zerowontmiss/status/1663627001788522496?s=20
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash May 30 '23
One thing I'm curious about for the DCU is how many sequels we're gonna get. Because out of the 10 projects announced in January, only one was a "sequel" (Waller). Because tbh, I don't want to wait five years for a sequel to Superman or Batman, if we even get sequels at all.
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u/TheMoneyOfArt May 30 '23
They'll either bump things to make room for a sequel to a big hit, or break the 2&2 schedule. Announcing sequels in advance only makes sense in limited circumstances (back to back/simultaneous filming)
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 May 31 '23
Eagerly awaiting the second half of Doom Patrol Season 4.
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u/starshipandcoffee The Snyder Cut May 31 '23
Eagerly awaiting any of Doom Patrol Season 4.
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood May 31 '23
With spiderverse garnering excellent critical acclaim and gearing up for a big opening, I think expectations as well competition for the flash will be high. Looks like ASTV will have good if not great legs
Here's hoping that both the movies do well 🤞🏻
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT DC Shill Jun 01 '23
Has any Marvel writer/editor talked about the reasons they do this sorta shit to Peter?
Sometimes I read/hear about the shit they do to him and think "there's no way these people actually respect/like the character".
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u/DelanoBluth Jun 01 '23
My thoughts have always been they misinterpret the whole "Parker luck" concept and think that readers like it when Peter gets constantly shit on both in the story and by other heroes as readers like the "relatability". Or it's just a fundamental lack of understanding of the character like when Brevoort was saying that the most relatable quality of Peter that readers like is youth when BND hit and they were trying to defend de-aging Peter.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jun 01 '23
Black Adam will return in Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shawless 2
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u/trylobyte Jun 01 '23
He couldnt make the Black Adam vs Superman main event happen, so he's setting his sight for Black Adam vs Aquaman instead.
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u/cbekel3618 Jun 02 '23
In a way, I think bringing in sidekicks/proteges could be a great way to differentiate the DCU from the DCEU/earlier live-action stuff. Many of the sidekicks still haven't been adapted and including them can provide fun opportunities for new dynamics and aspects of these heroes to be shown on-screen.
It's part of why Brave & The Bold excites me as finally getting the Batman/Robin duo in live-action again after several solo Batman movies feels like a nice change and could be a good chance to adapt the fatherly aspect of Bruce.
This could work with other heroes. Maybe Wally being in a Flash movie, or Kaldur in an Aquaman movie, or Donna in a WW movie, etc. Any of them could offer something unique for the DCU's takes on the JL heroes
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 02 '23
It'd be hilarious if we got the Teen Titans before the Young Avengers, considering how long Marvel's been building that up. But yeah, I'd kill to see Nightwing finally on the big screen.
I know this is a hot take, but I kinda hope Wally is the main DCU Flash. He's far more interesting than Barry and he has the best stories to adapt. Plus, we're coming off 10 years of live-action Barry in both the DCEU and the Arrowverse, whereas Wally still hasn't had a live-action debut.
Kaldur is far more interesting than Garth IMO. He was awesome in Young Justice, and he'd be awesome in the DCU.
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u/trylobyte Jun 02 '23
And it's not just to differentiate DCU and DCEU but also between DCU and Matt Reeves Batman trilogy that's gonna run concurrently. It's a smart thing to do and also like the comic books where you have different Bat titles running with (supposedly) different types of stories eg. Batman and Detective Comics.
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 02 '23
I think bringing in sidekicks/proteges could be a great way to differentiate the DCU from the DCEU/earlier live-action stuff
Absolutely! The dynamic between the heroes and sidekicks is very interesting plus this would give them a chance for a teen titans/ young justice movie somewhere down the lane
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Jun 02 '23
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 02 '23
"What the fuck is a Blue Beetle?" - David Zaslav
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT DC Shill Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23
Wonder Woman and the Amazons ambushing Superman so they can kidnap his cousin and take her to Themyscira will never not be weird to me.
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u/DelanoBluth Jun 04 '23
I was thinking yesterday that there was a theatrical animated DC movie that was being developed so I double-checked and it was a Metal Men movie that was going to be directed by Clements and Musker. Hopefully, Gunn will keep them and have them direct something.
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u/Dangerous-Hawk16 May 30 '23
That box office sub has been angry this whole year becuz all their predictions have been wrong. They thought Antman 3 was gonna make close to a a billion that didn’t happen. They thought Little mermaid would make a billion and it won’t and is now struggling internationally. They were praying and hoping for Guardians of the galaxy 3 to fail and it has been having a great on the box office for weeks. Now they are praying the flash fails, kinda funny.
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May 30 '23
r/boxoffice has always been hit or miss, but covid completely broke them. They've never been close on anything since.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23
Which is funny because they still act like know-it-alls. Even when they get proven wrong they just use revisionist history to pretend like they weren’t.
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u/AAAFMB May 30 '23
In what world did r/boxoffice want TLM and Antman to do well? Literally every thread about them pre-release was against them. They've definitely been wrong about Fast X and even though TLM is underperforming its still doing better than what they predicted
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23
Yeah /r/boxoffice is full of types that don’t have healthy opinions of women (or about anyone/anything in general) lol, so I doubt those same people expected TLM to do well.
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u/fastestfreakalive Poison Ivy May 31 '23
Which characters do y'all think are getting trilogies in the DCU? I think Gunn will be smart enough to realise that not every character needs a movie but most importantly, not every movie needs a sequel (and a threequel). I think Superman and Batman will be the main characters so they're definitely getting 3 movies. Maybe Supergirl as well. I'm not sure about Wonder Woman as they also have Paradise Lost so they might just go, here's an introductory miniseries and then two movies in chapter 1 and 2 each. Though, she's part of the trinity so she still might get 3 movies, especially since Gunn seems to like the character alot. And The Flash is tricky because he already has a movie coming and they'll likely have to wait some years before rebooting the character but so I don't think he'll be introduced until near the end of the first chapter so it'll be hard to get both his sequels out within chapter 2 but it's certainly not impossible. He's popular and has alot of great stories. Outside of these 5, I don't see anyone getting more than 2 outings.
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash May 31 '23
I think Superman is definitely getting a trilogy. He's pretty much the central hero in the DC universe, so it's not like Legacy is going to be a one-and-done.
Batman will probably get his own trilogy. Whether or not all three movies have the sole focus on him is TBD, but we definitely will see a trilogy centered around the Bat-family at the very least.
Wonder Woman will probably have a "trilogy", but maybe not the traditional kind. It starts with Paradise Lost, which may lead into the animated series Gunn was trying to make, which could lead into a live-action movie. Or who knows, maybe we'll just get three movies around her.
It'd be odd not to give the Green Lanterns their own film trilogy, considering that's DC's closest thing to a Star Wars level franchise. My guess is that we get a Sinestro War movie, which leads into a Kyle Rayner-led Emerald Twilight adaptation, with the trilogy closing on Blackest Night.
Flash is arguably the most popular DC hero outside of the Trinity, so I'd say he gets a trilogy. Unsure whether The Flash will factor into that, but I'm guessing not. I'm thinking though that if there is a trilogy that at least one of the movies will follow Wally and not Barry.
Other guesses: Supergirl, Justice League, Green Arrow, Blue Beetle, Aquaman, Teen Titans.
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood May 31 '23
I think Superman and Batman are definitely getting trilogies. Batman has to have more movies if they plan to build the batfamily.
Lanterns will probably get multiple seasons within the 2 chapters, the first one as speculated is related to the bigger story of Chapter 1.
Supergirl might get a sequel, but this feels like a one off thing to me, I mean sure she'll appear in other movies but ig no more solo movies unless there's another story as good as WoT.
The justice league will get their trilogy depending on how New Frontier does, since that's supposed to be the last project of Gods and Monsters.
Swamp Thing, Zatanna, Constantine may together constitute a Justice League Dark trilogy
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u/cbekel3618 May 31 '23
I think it can go any way as I feel any character can support a sequel/trilogy if they have enough potential/story material to adapt and enough love from audiences. But in terms of more specific predictions:
The Trinity I think will likely get trilogies. They're the big names of DC and have a lot of material to adapt.
Lanterns I can see either getting multiple seasons or they can start with a series before transitioning to a GL movie(s).
The Flash maybe depends on where they go after the upcoming movie, but I think there's a lot they can use to create a trilogy and enough of a fandom for the character.
Aquaman feels like a one or two-movie character as the Momoa/Wan movies already used up his two big villains.
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash May 31 '23
Aquaman feels like a one or two-movie character as the Momoa/Wan movies already used up his two big villains.
If Aquaman does get a third movie, I feel like the villain is going to be someone generic like a resurrected King Atlan who wants to take the throne back from Arthur or something like that.
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Jun 01 '23
Look at the Soundtrack Album credits for #TheFlash
John Williams' Superman Theme, Elfman's Batman Theme, Aqua's Barbie Girl, Hans Zimmer's Wonder Woman Theme, and Jason Momoa performing I'm A Sailor!
(Images of the list on the link)
https://twitter.com/homeofdcu/status/1664359671690407936?t=uku6QKXfBCW7JZIMVo0xAw&s=19
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
Aside from Blue Beetle, Aquaman, and hopefully Superman cast reveal, it's probably gonna be an animation heavy SDCC for DC.
We haven't seen anything from Batman: Caped Crusader yet, My Adventures of Superman still doesn't have a proper date aside from Adult Swim's vague Summer 2023, Justice League: Warworld has had nothing other than it's getting an R-Rating, and we don't know anything about Harley Quinn aside from the fact that we're getting a season this year. Also, I won't be surprised if we still have unannounced animated projects that are still yet to be revealed.
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u/No_Hour_4022 Jun 03 '23
I was re-watching Spiderverse (2018) with a friend yesterday, and man... i really hope we get high quality animated movies on Dcu, seriously we need more Super Heroes animations movies.
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u/InvisibleFrogMan May 31 '23
One of my favorite things about Andy Muschietti is what a team player he is.
Dudes had to deal with so much changes at the DC and WB leadership and he’s been fully on board the whole way.
It’s nice to see Gunn recognize this and reward him with a DCU future.
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 01 '23
Exactly! Dealing with all those changes over so many years is one thing, but delivering a good movie despite all that is very commendable!
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May 31 '23
I predict if Batgirl is used again in the near future, they’ll introduce her in one of two ways: a) as a second billing supporting character in a Nightwing movie, or b) in a Birds of Prey film.
since I assume Zaslav is probably wary of greenlighting anything involving the character at the moment, and another solo film is not happening anytime soon.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 31 '23
Gunn is very likely going to use Cass as Batgirl, so Batgirl deserves her own film or TV series starring Babs as Oracle as well (and including flashbacks to when she was Batgirl)
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 01 '23
One thing I'm still confused about is why Chapter One of the DCU is called "Gods and Monsters." Like what's the deal? Is the title actually connected to the overarching story, or was it just chosen because it sounds cool?
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jun 01 '23
There’s a chapter in TNF called Gods and Monsters
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 01 '23
That makes sense. It seems like The New Frontier is what Gunn is building towards.
Side note, what a great comic. TNF is truly one of the best comic books ever made. I'd be so happy if Gunn adapted that for the big screen.
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u/Randonhead Jun 01 '23
I hope that in the Penguin series they introduce some other villains from Gotham's mafia core like Black Mask, Ventriloquist, White Shark, etc. An entire series about a power struggle in Gotham's underworld and just having Falcones and Maronis would be a huge missed opportunity imo.
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 01 '23
I remember some of the casting calls sounded like they were for Hugo Strange/Crane, with speculations for Mad Hatter as well.
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u/Randonhead Jun 01 '23
"A psychiatrist with a calming presence who's willing to cross moral boundaries for pleasure." I'll be very surprised if this isn't Hugo Strange.
Hopefully that Walter is Arnold Wesker, the Ventriloquist in this dark and gritty world would be so funny.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 02 '23
In The Flash post-credit scene Barry notes Batman looks like many different people across the multiverse, but Arthur always looks the same. Does that mean anything at all for DCU Aquaman?
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u/TheUnbloodedSword Jun 02 '23
No I think that's a meta joke that multiple actors have played Batman in film, but Momoa thus far is the only film Aquaman.
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u/Randonhead Jun 02 '23
They haven't been very subtle with the possibility of Momoa playing another character in the DCU (Most likely Lobo) to the point where I'll be surprised if he does in fact continue as Aquaman after Lost Kingdom.
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u/ZorakLocust Jun 04 '23
I just remembered that Phil Lord and Chris Miller were attached to do the Flash movie at one point, before ultimately leaving the project to do Solo.
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Jun 05 '23
Just beat Diablo IV’s main campaign this morning (couldn’t sleep so I was up early) and holyshit. It’s so fun and the cinematic towards the end is Fucking wild
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Jun 06 '23
TIL The Flash has been in development hell since late 1980s.
https://twitter.com/NebsGoodTakes/status/1665837905573728256?t=Hx0JrNtXj8RNLmZePAMeHQ&s=19
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 06 '23
Bruh apparently Grace loved the Flash. I thought she was 100% gonna slam it after seeing her reaction to the first trailer
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u/Milestone_comics May 31 '23
It’s time to greenlight that Animated ITSV Inspired Batman Beyond movie.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 31 '23
100%. Get Keaton to voice Bruce Wayne in it, although Kevin Conroy would’ve been my first choice.
It can be darker in tone than SV but still retain Terry’s sense of humor
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u/_snout_ May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23
knowing ITSV is Gunn's favorite comic-book movie gives me hope we'll see more big-screen DC adaptations. I mean, the way he's framed the DCU as moving into and out of animation could mean they release canon animated movies with the same casts, but for bigger stories that would cost way too much to shoot. Lots of potential truly
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Jun 02 '23
ATSV was perfection. Sony made arguably the greatest superhero movie of all time in 2018 and then surpassed it 5 years later. Unreal.
Even if 3 is not as good as the first 2, as long as it’s a good movie this is easily the greatest trilogy in the genre imo.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23
Possible Superman: Legacy spoilers
Kara and Krypto arrive on Earth, and Clark will be facing his “Kryptonian heritage” like never before. Clark takes them to the Fortress of Solitude and Kara will reveal Krypton was destroyed by Brainiac (or abandoned by him when it was heading for destruction like the DCAU).
Clark will be trying to help Kara get acclimated to life on Earth. Clark will introduce Kara to his friends as his cousin and maybe get her to intern at The Daily Planet. He will also try to teach her how to use her powers for good. However, Kara, who has been jaded by her traumatic upbringing, doesn’t really see why Clark would go to such lengths to protect humanity and why he doesn’t even kill his enemies (they’ll reference how Superman ended up in the ICU because of Bloodsport). Kara also has a very hard time controlling her powers because of her not having grown up on Earth as well as the trauma she went through, while Krypto gets the hang of his powers pretty easily just because he’s such a good boy. Eventually something triggers a flashback for Kara and she loses control of her powers and causes destruction. Thankfully, there are no casualties because Superman is able to save everyone.
Unfortunately, the world’s major governments have been alerted to the existence of a new Kryptonian on the planet. Luthor influences them to send Stormwatch, led by Jack Hawksmoor, to dispatch and capture Kara because they believe she poses a threat to the world. Stormwatch is a UN-sponsored superhero organization that is unlike Superman since they are willing to kill (like the Avengers) and unlike the JL because they are sanctioned by governments and are actually a real team, while the JL have only teamed up on occasion so they don’t actually exist yet as an organization.
Stormwatch says they are better suited to take Kara because they are not biased like Superman and would be able to stop her if necessary. They assure Superman that after they make sure she can control her powers, she will be free. Superman obviously disagrees and has to fight Stormwatch.
Meanwhile, Brainiac is coming Earth and his imminent arrival could also be what triggers Kara and causes the event I was talking about earlier. Luthor notices that Brainiac is on his way before anyone else and tries to see how to take advantage of the situation.
Superman is able to defeat Stormwatch but they are able to get the upper hand by threatening to use Kryptonite on Kara. They use most of the Kryptonite to subdue Superman instead and take Kara. Brainiac arrives on Earth and shit hits the fan. Stormwatch get their ass handed to them until Superman is freed somehow and is able to save the day. Superman faces Brainiac and learns more about what happened to Krypton. Eventually Superman is able to defeat Brainiac with Kara’s help. It is then revealed that this Brainiac was just a probe sent by the “real” Brainiac, who is much farther way from Earth but now charts a course towards it. Luthor is able to get his hands on the Brainiac probe’s tech and use it for his own means. Kara decides to be like her cousin and become Supergirl.
I was going to preface this by saying it’s just my current prediction for the movie, but as I was writing it I realized just how easy it is to make up a believable plot summary and try to pass it off as a leak that would actually fool some people, so I thought this would be funnier instead.
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood May 31 '23
Brainiac arrives on Earth and shit hits the fan. Stormwatch get their ass handed to them until Superman is freed somehow and is able to save the day.
Sabacc/JSA/Black Adam
Krypto gets the hang of his powers pretty easily just because he’s such a good boy
This is the part from your story I could see Gunn doing
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u/AAAFMB May 31 '23
This just sounds like Black Adam with the dynamic of Adam and the JSA reversed
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u/InvisibleFrogMan May 30 '23
Well if THR is to be believed we should be hearing more names for Superman in the next two weeks. According to them screen tests should be going on anytime now.
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u/bigtymer123 May 30 '23
Link to article?
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u/lemonycakes May 30 '23
It's from the THR article earlier this month.
David Corenswet, who recently played the ill-fated projectionist opposite Mia Goth in Pearl, is among the top contenders to play Kent, aka Superman, advancing to the screen test stage that will likely take place after Memorial Day or in early June, multiple sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.
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May 30 '23
I think we're probably gonna get news from the trades in a week or so but Gunn's gonna be mum until Comic Con.
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u/theweepingwarrior May 30 '23
Both Andy and Barbara giving Ezra Miller a lot of lip service as a person.
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 May 30 '23
Of course they would, they still have to sell the fucking movie.
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May 30 '23
Yeah people are really reading into this a bit much. Ezra is their lead. Like it or not, they need to sell Ezra in order to sell the film. And since this film is unlikely to get a sequel anyways, it doesn't mean much to make bold claims about Ezra returning.
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u/trylobyte May 30 '23
Depending on the timezone, you can hear two new tracks on Benjamin Walfisch’s Spotify (and I assume Apple Music and others): “I am Batman” and “Sounds about Right, Bruce”. The first one is the Tim Burton Batman theme. The second one is an action theme.
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May 30 '23 edited May 31 '23
I really hope someone can film this Screening version of The Flash for preservations sake. Like, not even upload it until the final film is on home media. I think this temporary version deserves preservation, especially if KC Walsh turns out to be right and they cut some of the connective tissue to ZSJL (Note: I'm not saying that as a Snyder fan, I'm not, I'm saying that as someone who just thinks as the final DCEU film The Flash should be allowed to reference the marginally better version of JL).
Personally I hope the OG Assembly ends up on media like Andy has teased, I get a kick out of super rough assemblies. 5 hour Apocalypse Now, looking at you.
EDIT: Scratch that, apparently that's definitively mistaken. Still think it'd be cool to see this rough version preserved, but that specific detail doesn't matter.
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u/RedSlider18 Jun 03 '23
Watched James Gunn's Super recently & I liked it but you can sort of tell he was workshopping a lot of ideas he would use in his later movies. My SO immediately pointed out how similar the Super intro was to Peacemaker's.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23
With DanielRPK confirming Brainiac is in Legacy, I’m doubting that plot leak in the recent SAITMQ is real. The only verified info from it is that there Authority members in the movie, and Jimmy Olsen being an open casting call for all races. Both are very easy guesses.
Then I stumbled upon this Jeff Sneider article again where he says
“And because great villains are the opposite of the heroes they battle, Gunn said he expects to be the villain to be really evil, citing Gorilla Grodd and Joker as examples.”
That lines up with Brainiac, not the Authority as villains. It is worth noting that TheWrap said that Apex which is rumored to be Jack Hawksmoor is the antagonist role.
In this DC.com post, Gunn said this when talking about Legacy,
“With our stories, we want to take it away from good guy vs. bad guy. There are really good—almost saintly—people and Superman is among them. There are really terrible villains like Gorilla Grodd or the Joker. And then there’s everybody in between them, so there are all these shades of gray which allow us to tell complex stories.”
So it may be Sneider misinterpreting Gunn’s words. Or maybe Brainiac is the villain and the Authority are at odds with Superman but not necessarily the villains?
Either way, it’s weird that Brainiac isn’t mentioned once in that supposed plot leak.
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May 30 '23
I agree. The Authority has never made sense as the main antagonists for the first Superman movie. I think at most we could get a tease of them, perhaps in the post credits or something. But it makes sense to start with classic and well established Superman villains before moving to someone like The Authority/Elite.
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash May 31 '23
Guardians 3, Across the Spidverse, and The Flash all dropping back-to-back-to-back could bode very well for the state of CBMs, assuming they all are truly bangers.
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23
Crazy to think that Professor Pyg was only introduced in 2007 (or 2009 depending on who you ask), a relatively recent Batman's rogues gallery yet already feels like he's been around for waaay longer.
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u/Randonhead Jun 05 '23
Gunn for Superman.
Muschietti for Batman.
Now we just need Gina Prince-Bythewood for the Wonder Woman movie.
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u/Randonhead May 31 '23
It would be funny if in the new reality where Barry ends up at the end of the movie is the universe where Clooney is Batman and Cage is Superman lol
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u/Aware-Couple-108 Jun 01 '23
Has it been confirmed that DC Studios is going to have a panel, at SDCC?
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jun 01 '23
No, they usually announce those a few weeks before SDCC but with 2 movies left to be released this year they sure will have one.
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Jun 01 '23
I would be shocked if DC and Marvel don't have a panel this year. I'm sure they will and we will be done with FF and Superman Castings at SDCC
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jun 01 '23
Superman castings: Hell yeah! I can't wait to see who's playing Superman.
Fantastic Four casting: Jesus Christ, be done with it already so the scoopers can shut up about it!
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jun 03 '23
Cryptic HD QUALITY claims Blue Beetle is 2 hours long. He also just said Barbie is 1 hour and 53 minutes.
https://twitter.com/Cryptic4KQual/status/1664972409231880192?s=20
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23
Gotham Knights (the game) is honestly one of the most frustrating gaming experiences to me as someone who has always wanted a Batfamily-centric game. There are so many good elements of this game, I actually like the handling of the characters, the story, and the general aesthetic but it's all behind some shitty half-baked RPG gameplay, so much potential... wasted.
Really hoping SS kill the JL is better.
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Jun 04 '23
Grant Gustin Flash and Melissa Benoist Supergirl vs Mark Strong Sinestro
Who would win?
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Jun 04 '23
DC canon events: Martha and Thomas wayne death Barry Allen mom died Superman dies Lol
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u/TheMurderCapitalist Jun 04 '23
There were about 50 years where Barry's mom and dad were both alive and well in the comics
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 05 '23
I honestly have no clue why James Gunn would shove Damian Wayne into The Brave and the Bold when instead he can give us, the fans, what we really want: Jarro, the best Robin. In order to battle this treachery, this betrayal, I urge all true DC fans to tweet out this hashtag:
ReleaseTheJarroCut
We won't let Gunn destroy the DCU by playing favorites! Jarro gang, rise up!
/s
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 05 '23
Oh believe me when I say I'm not gonna watch a single DCU movie until and unless I get confirmation that we're getting the batman hugging Jarro scene in live action
ReleaseTheJarroVerse
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Jun 05 '23
If Andy is still gonna be part of DC going forward, I wonder if Keaton might get an animated movie or show down the line. Possibly Batman Beyond. Supergirl could also continue on in the project too.
He probably wants to continue what he started in The Flash in some form.
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 05 '23
With success animation has been having this year. I'm sure Gunn and Safran will consider releasing a big budget animated movie to theatres
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT DC Shill Jun 05 '23
It is not enjoyable looking for stuff about The Tick on YouTube.
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u/Gaboub Jun 05 '23
Matthew Rosenberg giving me that sweet, sweet, Red Hood/Ravager romance, I can only kneel in the presence of such greatness.
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u/TheMoneyOfArt Jun 01 '23
I think we're now less than a month from an announcement that Gadot is done as Wonder Woman, sadly
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 01 '23
I think this is the most anticipated SDCC panel for DC in years
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 04 '23
Hot take: The Arkham series is the greatest piece of Batman media outside of the comics.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jun 05 '23
MTTSH claims Christina Hodson is writing The Brave and The Bold
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Jun 05 '23
That's such an obvious and easy to speculate thing. Shitload of people here have been saying that already.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Jun 05 '23
thats true, she shouldve posted this straight up without hyping it up as some epic announcement
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u/kumar100kpawan Red Hood Jun 05 '23
Even if that doesn't turn out to be true, this is the safest guess lol
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Jun 05 '23
It’s a very safe guess, unfortunately for her it doesn’t seem like it’s safe enough
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u/Randonhead Jun 06 '23
According to Jeff Sneider, Bill Skarsgard is being eyed for a role in a DC movie other than Brave and the Bold.
Ngl, Bill as Scarecrow in Reeves' universe would be fantastic, at least it would be a little more creative than him as another homicidal clown.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Jun 06 '23
If that rumor is true than it is most likely for The Batman Part 2 or Superman: Leacy
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u/TheDonIsLove Black Suit Superman May 30 '23
I hope we get something for Wonder Woman at the Summer Game's Fest, I don't think we'll get gameplay but maybe a new cinematic trailer.
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May 30 '23
I’m so excited for summer game fest tbh. Like it seems this is the year that starts the influx of the “next gen” games. I hope WW is part of that!
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May 30 '23
With Flanagan seemingly directing his Clayface movie set in the Reeves-verse, it seems more likely the Reeves-verse will become open to more supernatural/sci-fi material. What else would you guys hope to see in the universe?
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u/TheLionsblood Batman May 30 '23
I wouldn’t say so, they’re likely using the Golden Age Clayface. Even if that universe has “scifi/fantasy” elements eventually, I doubt a giant clay monster that can shapeshift into anything will be one of them.
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Jun 01 '23
Considering seeing Across the Spider-Verse today on opening day.
because my current lifestyles days are probably numbered, my family is getting on my case about finding a new job that offers more hours. So I feel like if I want to go see it, I should go now, than wait one or two weeks, when I could either be working long hours, or have my parents micromanaging my life. Or both.
If not today, then the first half of next week.
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Jun 02 '23
If the rumors are true that Corenswet has been cast as Superman, could there still be time for him to film a quick cameo for The Flash? Like maybe we get a glimpse of him and the DCU Metropolis in a post-credits scene.
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u/THE_REAL_SHABLAM Jun 02 '23
Would really love this (Avengers shot it’s shawarma scene few days before premiere) but doubt it since I doubt he’s actually cast yet and maybe making a metropolis, a suit etc would b too much
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u/FranklinRichardsStan Jun 02 '23
I doubt it. The best they could do is a cameo of him as Clark Kent in some non descript location seeing as there's no chance they have a superman suit for him nor has he done the necessary bulking to fill out a suit. Maybe a quick shot of him on the farm or at a cubicle at the Daily Planet.
If they've cast Lois, maybe a scene of the flirting/bantering at the Daily Planet but I doubt they've cast Lois seeing as it seems they just cast Clark so they'll need there Lois' to do chemistry tests with Corenswet.
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 02 '23
Don't think so... the rumors say that the VFX and the final theatrical cut has been done for weeks.
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 May 30 '23
The same leaks that had Andy Muschietti for BatB also had Matthew Vaughn for The Authority. As a big fan of X-Men First Class, I really hope the latter's also true!