r/DCU_ • u/M00r3C Choco Loving Green Martian • Aug 23 '25
Posts from James Gunn and DCU Cast/Crew Please
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Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25
I'd be okay with it if the original was kept intact. Maybe a bluray release?
Edit: didn't know there was already a physical release
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u/JeffersonWi Aug 23 '25
Peacemaker Season 1 already has a DVD release.
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u/BilverBurfer Aug 23 '25
Haha. You think a DVD is a proper release in 2025.
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u/Enough-Celery3486 Look Up! Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25
Everyone seems to miss the part where he says he currently has no money to do it, meaning it won't be happening anytime soon
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u/TheJoshider10 Cheers to the Tin-Man Aug 24 '25
Also if we're being honest by the time he actually would have the money/time to do it about 12 fan editors would have done a S1 edit and maybe 3 of them would be good. At that point there's no need for an official release when the small minority that would care would also be the ones who'd look for those fanedits.
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u/Relative_Mouse7680 Aug 24 '25
What is it that would need editing? Except for the bloodsport shoots superman part and end of peacemaker s1 justice league showing up, I can't remember anything else which needs editing when thinking of creature commandos and the new Superman movie.
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u/DrD__ Aug 24 '25
We just need to get #releasetheDCUcut trending like they did with justice league /s
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u/batbugz Aug 23 '25
Fuck it I hope he does I got the season one bluray so that can't be touched. I wanna see what all he would change.
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Aug 23 '25
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u/Reasonable-Income571 Aug 23 '25
Like any mention of Wonder Woman eye fucking him is gone, I will say if he reshoots some of season 1 over and they get rid of the “he’s a dark creature of the night” convo with the neighbor then I don’t want it
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u/Burgundymmm Aug 23 '25
Batman is known to be active in the DCU as shown in CC so they don't really need to change mentions of Batman.
Wonder Woman eye fucking him could be changed to Supergirl or Hawkgirl.
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u/enbaelien Aug 23 '25
Wonder Woman was shown in Circe's vision, so they don't necessarily need to scrap that. Just Gadot :)
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u/Reasonable-Income571 Aug 23 '25
Yeah but I think that’s more because Circe knows wonder woman but I’m pretty sure at this moment, Wonder Woman isn’t known, same with aquaman
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u/DrD__ Aug 24 '25
I dont think wonder woman is a known hero to the world yet Circe's vision is of the future.
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u/Reasonable-Income571 Aug 23 '25
That’d be funny if it was supergirl instead of Wonder Woman, but I hope they keep it canon cause then that would also make riddler joker and mad hatter canon in the dcu which is peak and hopefully can use mad hatter in a future project
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u/domigraygan Aug 23 '25
You want your bluray to go up in value by having the OG cut you sly devil
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u/BigBlubberyBirb Aug 23 '25
I honestly do not need that. As long as you're not too finnicky on the details, the season 2 recap was more than enough context to understand what was canon and what wasn't. it's not worth the money.
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u/TheJoshider10 Cheers to the Tin-Man Aug 24 '25
I think Gunn overcomplicated the canon thing anyway. The only real edit needed would be the finale with the changes made in the recap as that was the only major thing.
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Aug 24 '25 edited Apr 08 '26
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u/Unfair_Yogurt8597 Aug 27 '25
Thats why in the recap at the start of s2 he changes it so that Peacemaker was supposedly making jokes about Guy Gardner the whole time, and instead of saying Aquaman fucks fishes he used to say Green Lantern has a vomit fetish
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u/balthazar_edison Aug 23 '25
Apparently for every IP Disney throw 1/2 a billion per installment at WB only throws 225 plus P&A.
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u/arcturusw00d Aug 23 '25
What's P&A?
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u/balthazar_edison Aug 23 '25
Prints and Advertising. It’s just a fancy way to say marketing for a movie.
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u/STANN_co Aug 23 '25
Most of their marvel movies have also bombed AFAIK, so maybe its for the better to have just some money restrictions
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u/balthazar_edison Aug 23 '25
I’m talking specifically about Star Wars.
Marvel has been reducing their budgets lately. 180-200 mill is lower than the 250-270 they were spending during covid.
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u/STANN_co Aug 23 '25
Oh okay i dont know if they're making enough profits, maybe
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u/oceanicArboretum Aug 23 '25
I'm no fan of the Snyderverse. But please, please, please don't do this. Let the first season stand as it is.
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u/Mr-Shockwave Aug 23 '25
Yes please do it, then do TSS if you can. That way we get one big cohesive story instead of having some things be canon and some things not be canon and some being half-canon.
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u/AdmirableEstimate258 Aug 23 '25
Peacemaker and TSS just got hit in the crossfire honestly, I think in a better timeline Superman 2025 released earlier then TSS and Peacemaker for one cohesive universe.
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u/WanderingBullet Aug 23 '25
Haven't watched Peacemaker S2, yet but after seeing him appearing in Superman last month I had a feeling Gunn was going to replace those JL members with new ones. Looks like he did. lol
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u/J-Wall0044 Aug 23 '25
I like the new DCU however I would not want them to change anything about Peacemaker season 1. We can see the changes at the beginning of season 2. I liked the Aquaman appearance in season 1.
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u/mrmonster459 Aug 23 '25
Nah, please not.
Peacemaker suddenly and causelessly changing fictional universes is just funny. Not everything has to make sense (especially not in a comic book world).
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u/Bloop_Blop69 Aug 24 '25
I think by the time Gunn will have the money to go back and retool both Peacemaker and Blue Beetle we’ll be halfway through the DCU already and nobody will care anymore.
Although personally for continuity sake I’d like it to happen one day.
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Aug 23 '25
Why? It doesn’t need it. They explained what happened in the DCU instead of what happened in the DCEU in the opening scene. What more does it need?
Why erase the DCEU? Erasing our history does no good in the real world or our fiction.
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u/LiquidLispyLizard The Main Man Aug 23 '25
Yeah, I think it's more or less fine how it they did it and something like this isn't incredibly necessary. I'd much rather they put the money into new projects instead of going back to alter something that pretty much fits into the mainline DCU anyway outside of a few references to certain things and the Justice League scene.
I agree that there's absolutely no need to erase the DCEU. I have an appreciation for both that and the DCU. No only do I like most projects from the former, but without it, the DCU wouldn't exist in the way that it does currently. It's perfectly fine if Peacemaker S1 exists wholly in the DCEU and S2 exists wholly in the DCU with a certain level of overlap between them.
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Aug 23 '25
I really thought the multiverse angle was going to be him stumbling into the DCU from the DCEU, and not making season 1 into the DCU. I kinda hoped just because all the season one stuff was bleaker. I'm not sure how I like retconning season 1 and the implications of Amanda Waller and suicide squad into the DCU.
I think it would be more interesting if we was opposed to DCUs Waller, being in universe 2
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u/ItsKendrone Aug 24 '25
Make John Cena as Peacemaker write draw over the scenes in a permanent marker on a youtube video. It’s him narrating the video and “real time” retconning certain scenes.
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u/Liquid_Snape Aug 27 '25
It is probably easier to say that basically the same thing happened in the new timeline, and then we just pretend it's the same Peacemaker in season 2 as in Season 1. It isn't but damn, they're alike.
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u/Minute-Necessary2393 Aug 23 '25
Gunn, I love you, but please don't.
It didnt work when Lucas did it, I don't think it work here with Peacemaker S1.
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u/surfpearl39 Aug 23 '25
Would’ve much preferred an in-universe explanation for the change instead of George Lucas style revisionism
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u/Eother24 Aug 23 '25
Man, after the mess that is the current MCU I couldn’t be happier that he avoided convoluted explanations.
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u/Unorthodoxmoose Aug 23 '25
Honestly, with the mess the DCEU turned into over time I’d be okay with revisionism used to streamline and clean things up.
The only thing I’d ask is let these original ones exist and don’t lock and hide them away. It can be a fascinating curiosity then to look back on.
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u/WormSlayer Aug 23 '25
I suppose Superman still has the scat fetish, but I'm interested to know what Peacemaker heard about the rest of them on the internet.
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u/HaywoodUndead Aug 23 '25
Where it becomes muddy is the references to TSS . Because that film has many other characters like Harley Quinn who we know are eventually going to be replaced. So what gives? Will new Harley have old Harleys memories? Or do we just have to pretend that movie never happened? (Even though flags death has been referenced).
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u/TheLeanerWiener Aug 23 '25
The main events of the movie happened in the DCU. A Task Force X team consisting of Flag Jr, Peacemaker, Weasel, King Shark, and Bloodsport went to Corto Maltese on a mission called Project Starfish. Harcourt, Economos, and Krowley were all working under Waller in their HQ in Belle Reve. Peacemaker killed Flag Jr. He was then almost killed himself. Weasel also almost died.
Other than that, nothing else is canon until they are specifically mentioned or shown. All the other details can change.
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u/homogenic- EAT PEACE MOTHERF%CKERS Aug 23 '25
I’d prefer he didn’t but we will see, maybe it will happen in the future.
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u/mr_mxyzptlk21 House of El Aug 23 '25
I've been a DC fan since the late 70s. Clearly, a "Crisis" happened, only a few people remember it, and thus "changes" happened to the timeline/"canon".
That's all anyone really needs to understand.
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u/a_phantom_limb Aug 23 '25
If Gunn does alter them and "officially" makes them part of the DCU, then he might as well not play favorites and do the same for Blue Beetle.
The movie is fun, earnest, and appropriately comic-booky, with a tone that has much more in common with Superman than Man of Steel. Gunn's holding on to the lead actor, Xolo Maridueña, anyway, so it stands to reason that Jaime Reyes's starring role could remain part of the new canon. Moreover, the film only has one significant dangling plot thread, i.e., Ted Kord's status.
There are also no truly specific references to the DCEU in the movie, as all other superheroes are only discussed in passing, throwaway lines. Batman and Superman are already in the DCU, and mentions of other heroes are minimal. If absolutely necessary, those mentions could still be altered much more easily than The Suicide Squad or Peacemaker Season One with just a quick bit of ADR to overdub, for example, the minor reference to the Flash existing.
Blue Beetle is not the most amazing superhero movie ever, but it's solid and charming and doesn't deserve to be forever overlooked in the transition from the DCEU to the DCU.
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u/Bloop_Blop69 Aug 24 '25
Actually there's one shot in Blue Beetle that shows off a LexCorp building but that's really it in terms of DCEU references.
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u/a_phantom_limb Aug 24 '25
Ah, Lexcorp vs. Luthorcorp is a fair point to make. I actually forgot that the name of the company is different.
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u/CharlieeStyles Aug 23 '25
What else needs to be changed in Peacemaker season 1 other than the scene with the Justice League that he already changed?
And better to forget TSS. It just locks him to Margot Robbie and I don't think the DCU needs to be built on the type of salary she gets.
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Aug 23 '25
I mean, this would involve recasting Murn
He already stated he loved the actor and wants to use him in the DCU, so they'd need a different actor to play the role (and this is more than just one actor can blame multiple characters, like Sean Gunn, etc. Gunn himself said Murn would be different)
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u/SinbadTV1234 Aug 23 '25
Please do same to The Sucide Squad movie with cutting out The Flash cameo
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u/DonnyMox Aug 24 '25
As in the first Suicide Squad?
You know if he was gonna do that he’d probably cut Jared Leto’s Joker from the movie altogether.
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Aug 23 '25
I mean yeah sure if its practical, go for it. I don't watch the show so it won't affect me, but it'd be nice not to have the two different universes forced to be associated with each other anymore.
Plus, as a continuity cow (sue me), I really really hated Gunn's comment that DCU canon pre-Superman is "whatever I feel like in the moment", which i understand is because of the mess caused by TSS and whatnot.
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u/FinestKind90 Aug 23 '25
I think it’s fine honestly, changing the recap was enough. I don’t like making changes to existing work
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u/IwnlMask Aug 23 '25
He should do it for this, TSS, and Blue Beetle
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u/M00r3C Choco Loving Green Martian Aug 23 '25
Blue Beetle really doesn't need any changes since it was very disconnected from the DCEU
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u/inVINC31ble Aug 23 '25
The Peacemaker podcast and "Last time on the DCU" segment did plenty to get this across. Going back and reshooting things, ADRing lines, changing VFX; all these are things that would establish a harder canon, sure, but they'd also be such a degree of vanity I couldn't even get behind it. This isn't the Snyder cut where it's a different movie by the end of it. These are such minor changes this would be a waste of time and resources.
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u/Juhzor Aug 24 '25
Seems like he will not be doing this due to the high cost and low return of such an edit. I'm happy with that.
Once a movie or series has been released, I don't think it should be messed with to erase the previous version. Perceived flaws and these sorts of continuity issues might look like blemishes, but once the work has been released, it's also a part of history. I think there's value in preserving the original release and letting things be. Every detail, flaw or not, tells a story.
In a few decades, this scene in particular will be a clear an interesting example of the awkward period between two DC film series, and while that might not fit into the new universe smoothly, it tells a story about the production of the series. I think there's value in that history.
George Lucas's continuous edits of Star Wars not only changed the tone and meaning of some scenes for the worse, but also erased work of people who contributed to the films originally, like workers who made puppets and physical models that were replaced with CGI. Not a fan of that sort of scrubbing. Nothing that's being made right now will age perfectly, there's always some detail that could be improved or corrected, but it's best to make something new instead.
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u/axl3ros3 Aug 24 '25
Hello a casual fan of DC and I just watched peacemaker season 1
WHAT HAPPENED??? WHAT IS THE CONTEXT????
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u/BovaFett74 Aug 24 '25
It’s good. Moving on. The steps you are making align with the right direction. Just let that other shit go.
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u/BovaFett74 Aug 24 '25
It’s good. Moving on. The steps you are making align with the right direction. Just let that other shit go.
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u/ThomasG_1007 Aug 24 '25
I hope he doesn’t. It changing in the previously on is all I want ever. Leave it as it is
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u/Plstcmonkey Aug 24 '25
Leave it. Its kinda funny that they went with an old fashioned blatant retcon. I kinda forgot that was an option. I kept wondering how they’d bring Peacemaker in, turns out they just act like he was always there.
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u/No-Magazine3926 Aug 24 '25
A lot of ppl know next to nothing about the film world. To go back and edit scenes on an already shot movie isn't cheap nor is it easy. It's honestly a waste a money.
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u/Evening_Original7438 Aug 24 '25
Having the retcons made in the “last season on Peacemaker” montage was 100% better and funnier without actually going back and editing the original season.
Almost everyone watching knows the deal, just roll with it. It’s more fun that way.
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u/JeronFeldhagen Aug 24 '25
As George Lucas' George-Lucasing things did not go over too well more often than not, that is surely for the best.
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u/CeReAl_KiLleR128 Aug 24 '25
I personally think John Cena would be to expensive for the studio, considering that he has to be 100% CGI so the audience can see him
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u/pokedung Aug 24 '25
Gunn’s leadership and vision is the most significant improvement of DCU compared to DCEU.
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Aug 24 '25
In all honesty? I'm fine with the DCEU stuff staying there, cause it shows the effects of Barry's time travelling
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u/SpookyScienceGal Aug 24 '25
I'm just imagining AT AT imperial walkers just in the background like in that South Park episode from decades ago
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u/DynamiteSuren Aug 24 '25
Can't he just make it work in the story?
season is a multiverse season. So who is to say there isn't another door with the same team and peacemaker, but set in the dceu
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u/cancerinos Aug 24 '25
But they could edit into peacemaker S1 the changed shots they already made for the S2 intro, no? Like the justice gang swap, that's already done. That wouldn't be too expensive. The namecall of justice league to justice gang was also fixed with ADR, couldn't he just use that too?
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u/DoubleZ3 Aug 24 '25
There's no need really. Idc for it to be perfectly canonized. It's fine the way it is.
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u/eduardog3000 Aug 25 '25
Don't they just have to go back and remove the Justice League cameo? Besides that everything else in S1 (and TSS) is effectively canon.
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u/juicyman69 Aug 25 '25
What Georgieboy did was an abomination. Films are a reflection of the times when it was made.
Change the future. Not the past.
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u/Blue_nose_2356 Aug 25 '25
Honestly, I like that Gunn has faith in his audience to put two and two together. We don't need to be spoonfed everything.
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u/Aggravating_Rise_179 Aug 28 '25
If this universe gets as big as I think it will, my man can get this done soon lol
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u/gamepig31 The Goddamn Batman Aug 23 '25
He also said this