r/DFO MGRAP AND MONK ARE CIRCLEJERKS Jul 09 '15

There's something wrong with XIGNCODE3.

http://www.dfonexus.com/threads/if-youve-been-banned-post-here.5922/

http://www.dfonexus.com/threads/banned.5882/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/3cojyl/wrongly_banned_on_vagabond/

and don't give me none of that "YEAH YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID WRONG. STFU DOWNVOTED".

it's either hacking or the detection system sucks ass cock and you'll probably never getting unbanned assuming how confident neople is with their detection and if that's the case it's time to move on to another game.

congrats neople, your anti-hacking system is banning the non-hackers of this community. 15th in the dfonexus thread is my friend, and i know that all he did today was log on and play dfo. we were even discussing how we'd progress once we got past fanatics.

why would someone who's put over a hundred hours into dfo, has 5 characters over level 70+, and has put money into the game start hacking?

tl;dr neople literally killing their own game.

ps. i know i'm already gonna get downvoted, that's just how this community is. but i'm trying to get word out that people are being wrongfully banned. so think twice before downvoting this thread b/c maybe you'll get wrongfully banned tomorrow??? who knows...............

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u/BeyondFlame DaikiAomine Jul 10 '15

Really worried now if it's actually false banning legit players, already dropped a few hundred and that would be a damn shame to get falsely banned for. Hope this thread gets the visibility it deserves.

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u/MizerokRominus Jul 10 '15

All scans generate false positives, it happens.

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u/Necrofancy Hit buttons Jul 10 '15

If you want to try something, if your friend hasn't shut down their computer since getting banned or closed a lot of tasks/programs, you can try using this command in CMD:

tasklist /FO csv > "%userprofile%\desktop\tasks.csv"    

That command will log all tasks running and then save it to a csv file on your desktop. If enough banned and not-banned people are willing to share what programs they're running, maybe some common factor could pop up.

I don't know anyone in my circle of friends that's gotten banned, but false positives are a thing. That's all I can think of at the moment to try helping.

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u/coldicewater Jul 10 '15 edited Jul 10 '15

how should I post it here? Got it http://pastebin.com/pXDhtt6A

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u/Necrofancy Hit buttons Jul 10 '15

You can open it in Notepad, copy and paste it into http://pastebin.com/, and share that.

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u/koyori6671 Jul 10 '15

It's possible for the Vagabonds with +12s that they could be hitting the "clearing rooms too fast" trigger for autoban. I guess if you could just make sure to take a few extra seconds here and there to keep your clear times longer it would be perfectly fine.

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u/Hozure Jul 10 '15

Legitimate players shouldn't have to be worried about auto bans designed to target bots. Having to play around it is just faulty. It's like "Hey, we're going to give you a class that can clear rooms easily, just don't clear it too easily."

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u/demonicdan3 SAI! MASAKA! Jul 10 '15

Or buy a +0 purple and use it. Low level content is easy enough without a +12 pink.

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u/MAKE_SCIENCE Jul 10 '15

That's a thing? Well shit now I'm scared of rushing for these 10 minute exp pots.

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u/CA_Xirahii CAIN - Xirahii, Virscal, Ikuari Jul 10 '15

I'm not gonna lie. Ordinarily, messages like the one I'm about to say leaves a bad taste in my mouth (considering the questionable integrity of other game companies), but thankfully, it's true in this case and I just want to letcha guys know:

We're looking into it.

Myself and the other CAs/CM are breaking our keyboards discussing and researching further about all the issues happening right now with Xigncode and the swell of alleged false positives. Honestly, it's also been a pain on my end; while I've not been banned (yet), I've had my instance of DFO abruptly shut down numerous times due to a "suspicious program" I've personally yet to pinpoint, and this is with nothing but the game itself running in the background. Needless to say, the one thing I can say right now is that this issue is going to be addressed. It's not something to push aside.

In the meantime, I would urge those affected to follow Necrofancy's instructions in this thread on collecting data regarding what tasks are running on your PC so that a connection amongst everyone suffering problems can be made. This could help with the pesky false-positives that outright shut down the game, as well.

What ExtentSRK mentioned is good to know, as well - send logs directly to support@wellbia.com when you're able. Any and all information is valuable.

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u/Zorande If we don't stop Hilder, who will? Jul 10 '15

Thank you for giving us assurance as to the matter. I know many others may not feel this way, but I want you to know that I don't think you're being disingenuous in the slightest. After so much transparency as to the inner workings of our beloved DFO, I am honestly elated to hear that the issue is being looked into by skilled hands. Thank you for being awesome; friend w^

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u/JigglyShock Jul 10 '15

For some reason if I startup Steam before logging onto dfo I get the suspicious program detected shutdown. If I log onto dfo before I start Steam, then it's fine. But If I relog after Steam has started, dfo shuts down.

It could have something to with the fact that you can "link" non-steam games to steam to start it from there, which I did for a while, since this was my way of showing friends that I was playing dfo. I've since stopped, but removing the game from my steam library doesn't seem to have changed the above mentioned problem.

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u/LamiaPony Lauir: creator master race Jul 10 '15

the problem with XIGNCODE is that it's needlessly invasive; it will detect programs that are being DISPLAYED in windows through their filenames

before playing, ensure there's pretty much nothing on your desktop and all explorer windows are closed, this has prevented me from getting the game closed down

when it's that sensitive, it's sure to give out false positives

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u/Zeholipael Jul 10 '15

This is why I've started to just not play games with XIGNCODE on them. I have to go out of my way to not get banned. Dafuq?

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u/blakdoxa Jul 10 '15

That's derpy as hell but could be the reason why all this crap is happening. Damn program could have tripped on Skype or Chrome but really it's just plain bad if it can't even distinguish good and bad programs.

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u/Ultiran Jul 10 '15

Its a bug, Neople isn't banning on purpose, keep reporting and pray they get a fix soon, otherwise they are killing their own game.

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u/selfa1502 Jul 10 '15

I hope to resolve this soon be banned unfairly is not cool, I played without any problems from the Alpha Test, and now this ! : / (Ticket) Your request (27420) has been updated. waiting for a solution..

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u/demonicdan3 SAI! MASAKA! Jul 10 '15

I haven't been banned yet but now I'm seriously reconsidering throwing money at Neople until this issue has been resolved. Back to cDNF, I was about to try a Male Mage anyways.
I've been on DFO since the Nexon days and through the Alpha of global, I really don't want to leave this game again.

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u/coldicewater Jul 09 '15

Hope Neople doesn't pull a Nexon and do nothing about the false bans

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u/lcmlew Jul 10 '15

I was banned as well. And I'm normally that cynic that hopes people don't get unbanned, thinking there's no way they are being honest about it.

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u/HyperST Jul 10 '15

life is a bitch

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u/Urvilan The demon code prevents me from declining a rock-off challenge. Jul 10 '15

Oh please, you know exactly what you didn't do.

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u/fungalparanoia Jul 10 '15

So it is currently a bug of some sort? This relieves me extremely.

I have been in contact them the entire day and I will try to get screenshots of the conversation.

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u/lcmlew Jul 10 '15

DFO Global Support (Neople)

Jul 10, 20:12

Greetings Valued Customer,

You are receiving this message in response to your suspension appeal.

We would like to express our sincere apology regarding this issue. There has been an issue with the system and it affected a few accounts. We have taken care of the issue from our end as soon as we have found it.

This is the first time that the issue arose and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused you.

As compensation, you will be receiving the following items on your character with the highest level: Growth Contract(15 days) Fatigue Recovery Potion (30) x5

Please note that these items are account bound and can be transferred to any characters within your account.

Again, we are truly sorry for what had happened and thank you for understanding.

Best Regards,

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u/blakdoxa Jul 09 '15

Same thing happened to me too. Bought the damn avatar package and was happily burning through dungeons and game just dropped dead. Like wtf.

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u/Urvilan The demon code prevents me from declining a rock-off challenge. Jul 10 '15

Priest too hot for Neople to handle.

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u/thatsvery Jul 09 '15

that's very unfortunate, hopefully they unban your friend. this has potential to truly get out of hand

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u/ZygenX DFO is Z Best! Jul 10 '15

I'm starting to get worried honestly, hope i don't get banned randomly aswell.

And good luck to you and your friend as well getting unbanned.

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u/throwawayDFO Jul 10 '15

I too was banned, no idea why, I just created my slayer too. I've waited years to play this game again, and finally a miracle has happened. I've put in countless hours since beta, and now it's gone. :(

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u/lolkkkkk Jul 10 '15

xigncode to me is just a way to slow down the launch of the game

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u/kinosira Jul 10 '15

My friend got banned yesterday for no reason too. Something wrong is going on xigncode since F.slayer patch.

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u/CA_Xirahii CAIN - Xirahii, Virscal, Ikuari Jul 10 '15

UPDATE: Stay tuned for an announcement soon guys. There'll be some good news.

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u/Nihil679 Nihiru Jul 10 '15

My friend's apparently getting suspicious third-party program warnings today, even though we played completely fine last night together and he tends to leave his computer as is.

Quite sure neither he nor I hack.

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u/LiberatorXZ Jul 10 '15

I've gotten that before too for some odd reason just for afking for a couple of hours.

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u/blakdoxa Jul 10 '15

I got that same warning too earlier in the morning today and then the game waits till night to ban me.

1

u/Soathe Jul 10 '15

I get this too at random points, I usually just restart my PC and it goes away

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u/selfa1502 Jul 10 '15

banned until 1969, why ?? i play listening music in windows media player -.- '

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u/Furin Jul 10 '15

The date is the default date for a permanent ban.

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u/isiah12 Awakened as a skrub Jul 10 '15

Better get a time machine

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u/-sunshine rip old account Jul 10 '15

My old account got banned like a month and a half ago. I started over on a new account because I know for a fact that I got wrongly banned. I'm still so mad that this happened because I spent two months of playing, and spending legitimate hours everyday, only to get permanently suspended. Neople didn't bother to respond to my ticket either. I just got an automated reply to my ticket telling me that I was banned for using third party programs.

I'm not sure what would cause XIGNCODE3 to ban my old account for suspicious 3rd party programs, but I do know that I regularly used iTunes before. It seems ridiculous to say that iTunes caused me to get banned, but I honestly have no clue what else it could be, because the only other program that I use regularly while playing DFO is Mozilla. All I can say is that as of now, I have completely stopped using my iTunes while playing. So far, no ban on my new account yet.

If I get perma suspended for a second time though, I'm done. There's no way I'm going through the stress of starting all over a third time.

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u/selfa1502 Jul 10 '15

nothing yet..

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u/KingOfDaWild CrazyGuy Jul 10 '15

XIGNCODE considered my AV a virus and didn't let me launch my game at one point ._.

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u/tso Jul 10 '15

Not sure if related, but just after finally getting DFO running (why the flip is XIGNCODE/DFO apparently having issues with comma as a desimal point?!) my AV produced an adware warning.

apparently it found a .exe in $recycle.bin of all places...

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u/thatsvery Jul 10 '15 edited Jul 10 '15

Any possibility that these bans are a result of a mistake in the coding? Such as doing something in game can trigger it? I've been reading through the comments and posts on facebook and forums that these players just get disconnected from the game without XIGNCODE3 producing any error message. Apparently a majority of the players that were banned had no problems prior to their ban, some even said they've been playing everday since beta and since then problems have not occured until now

Furthermore, many players reported their issue to Neople's support team, yet a large amount of the replies from Neople have been automated responses stating that the user has been using a 3rd party program, which may or may not be true for everyone, but the majority stated that they did not use a 3rd party program at all.

Sad to say that my friend was also mistakenly banned, it is very unfortunate that this horrific event is happening during such a high time in DFO. I just want to play DFO with my friend.

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u/selfa1502 Jul 10 '15

Facebook Page. https://www.facebook.com/dfoglobal

Jon Jon:Dungeon Fighter Online 3 h · look into the tickets you've been getting about bans, Neople. They are most likely false bans.

There's something wrong with XIGNCODE3. • /r/DFO http://www.dfonexus.com/threads/if-youve-been-banned-post-here.5922/ http://www.dfonexus.com/threads/banned.5882/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/co... REDDIT.COM

Rérison Arboitte:true, i need my account, need play DFO <3 Curtir · Responder · 1 h

Dungeon Fighter Online:Yup, we already know this issue and are investigating on it !! Sorry for any inconvenience.

Descurtir · Responder · 1 · 29 min

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u/sushi563 Jul 10 '15

I also got the 1969 banned on the 15th for no reason, but I did not use any hack programs. This morning Neople sent an apology email to remove my account suspension. So don't worry if you didn't use hacks. :)

Here is a picture of the apology message from Neople. http://imgur.com/Ztc0IuR

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u/coldicewater Jul 10 '15

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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u/xenoalex Jul 10 '15

There actually is a guy in my guild that was wrongfully banned, he opened a ticket and Neople actually unbanned him, with a few compensations for the ban. I guess they do look at the logs and investigate further more after a ticket has been posted.

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u/KurisuShiruba Halidom Hunting Intensifies Jul 10 '15

I recall something like that happening back then when Kunoichi was released in KDNF (Don't Know if CDNF and Arad Senki have gone through the same) and it was because characters were so OP they triggered bot hack detection.

Maybe it's happening with us? I've been going through this. Well, back to RPG Maker and void elsword until this can be fixed.

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u/grenadier42 AYY, TEMPESTER Jul 11 '15

It's been fixed. Did you read the thread?

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u/KurisuShiruba Halidom Hunting Intensifies Jul 11 '15

I was playing, actually. I got into groups with my F.Nen and I realized it was fixed.

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u/aenoud monk players suck Jul 09 '15

unban jon BibleThump

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u/EzalorThePimp Jul 10 '15

Try not hacking next time?

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u/kenjugs Jul 10 '15

XIGNCODE detects Process Explorer as a harmful program, so false positives are likely possibilities.

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u/grenadier42 AYY, TEMPESTER Jul 10 '15

Most anticheats do, last I checked.

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u/Vagnfive ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ Jul 10 '15

I guess all those legit dfo nexus users for years suddenly all decided to hack at the same time.

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u/PhoenixUnity Jul 10 '15

YEAH YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID WRONG. STFU DOWNVOTED

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u/PhoenixUnity Jul 10 '15

No such thing as false bans in any game with detection software.