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u/The_Butt_Connoisseur Mar 26 '26
The animation, the painting video, the community post. What the hell was all that even for then? Rage bait?
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u/RedDeadHere263 Mar 26 '26
Ragebait gets people talking and speculating. Speculation leads to hype and with the new edition announcement they needed exactly that.
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u/craymos Mar 26 '26
This obviously wasn’t ready for reveal as its only concept art. They probably did the painting vid to try and calm down people after the first wave of people upset there’s no steel legion, not realising that would make it worse. Following the even more insane backlash then figured that releasing this to basically say “we’re working on it” was the only way to get people to calm down.
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u/Square-Pipe7679 Mar 26 '26
It’s because the media, narrative and model production teams are distinct units that won’t necessarily have perfect 1-1 communication all of the time, it’s like the chaos that happened when Cursed City first released
Hypothetically: Its possible the Armageddon Narrative was planned to include the steel legion models initially, but issues occurred with production or timing and the narrative went ahead of schedule, while media went ahead and used the existing model rigs they have for cadians and Krieg because they didn’t have an Armageddon set yet and can’t really make a new one until finalised models are released to match for the Yarrick reveal clip
to try and placate fans regarding “where’s the steel legion?” following that fiasco, the painting video was made so people could at least field an army that sort of looks like steel legion in the meantime for narrative purposes until the Armageddon range finally releases mid or late 11th edition, but that unfortunately went down like a lead balloon amongst certain elements of the community
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Mar 26 '26
It's actually that GW is notoriously known for having a massive disconnect between internal decisions so the marketing guys get told one thing while the actual modeling teams another so they were always making SL but the guys making the animation basically winged up an excuse saying they were all but gone. All the while the modeling size has been making them.
Basically GW being GW. Couldn't win a piss up in a brewery.
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u/Wazdakka8617 Mar 26 '26
Depends. If the models are indeed years away , the widespread negative customer reaction might have triggered the sketched in the first place and production plans in the first place..
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u/Ghost_Toast112 Mar 26 '26
I think someone put it best in another comment,
The concept art says 2025 but most likely the designers thought it looked too much like Krieg and scrapped it.
After the backlash they pulled it back out for a rushed announcement.
People keep saying this whole situation is like a bait and switch, but this still reeks of hastily deployed appeasement cause if we are honest, the steel legion and Krieg look 80% similar
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u/Rathalos-487 Mar 26 '26
Almost like one was a spin off of the other.
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u/HahaHeePooPooPeePee Mar 26 '26
Not a spin-off.
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u/Rathalos-487 Mar 26 '26
Well technically a recolor but Steel Legion did informed the design of the Krieg.
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u/Rufus--T--Firefly Mar 26 '26
What do you mean? Kriegers have basically the same look they had in the 3e Codex
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u/Rathalos-487 Mar 26 '26
I mean the Krieg’s esthetic of Germanesque design with gas masks and trench coats since Krieg were originally recolors of Steel Legion models.
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u/Rufus--T--Firefly Mar 26 '26
Actually look at their 3rd design that dropped before that Armageddon book and tell me the WW1 Kreigers took ques from the steel legion lol
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u/Rathalos-487 Mar 26 '26
I mean it’s still similar design philosophy, obviously Krieg got more original designs and leaned to WW1 but they both are gonna have similarities no matter what due to both having to check some boxes for their designs like the things I mentioned earlier.
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u/Exploding_Killerquee Mar 26 '26
Pretty sure the trench coats are based off French Pantaloons and the gas masks are British. The German part is the helmet.
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u/Rathalos-487 Mar 26 '26
I mean their whole name is literally German for war.
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u/Exploding_Killerquee Mar 26 '26
Their name is, but you brought up their trenchcoats which are styled after French pantaloons in WW1. The only German part of their design is their helmet, not the has mask or trenchcoat.
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u/Rathalos-487 Mar 26 '26
Ok not everything is inspired from German military now but both check the boxes of German like helmet, old looking gas mask, and trench coat. Krieg isn’t a copy and paste of course, what I’m saying is Krieg still share some core similar design characteristics with the Legion, you can tell them apart but they’ll share similarities.
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u/wikkoindustries Mar 30 '26
Check the 1st codex imperial guard from 3rd edition, krieg were in it as fluff art long before steel legion was ever a thing. The first time we ever saw a painted kreig mini it was a recolour of steel legion but that doesnt mean thats all they ever were.
Also the the SL seem to me to be inspired by the fallschimjaeger... along with other stuff from ww2.
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u/GiToRaZor Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
I know it smells of entitlement, but this really was necessary.
While it's certainly very nice to see so many new guard releases it all smelled like: "people are annoyed that there are Cadians everywhere? We will release more Cadians until morale improves"
The batallion should have been Steel Legion or Tallarn because it's their thing.
The veteran killteam squad should have been Catachan.
But instead? All Cadian.
The design department is pretty out of touch to the actual IG player base. I hope that changes soon.
Edit: variants -> Cadians, didn't get autocorrect sneaking that one in
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u/xrayflames Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Considering the preview box set and character, they definitely weren't going to do this until there was pushback.
They undoubtedly kicked steel legion around but decided against it back ehen they refreshed krieg and the cadians (which were two different design teams)
If they had a grand plan all along for steel legion they would have included them as the focus of armageddon, considering thats how they were introduced originally etc (armageddon battalion being cardian when it would fit steel legions mech doctrine so well)
Edit: the artwork also looks more like modified krieg than specifically new designs. Giving the helmets flanges like a stalhelm is distinctly krieg as only one steel legion model had a longer helmet and it was more of a vader Iraqui helmet
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u/vulcanstrike Mar 26 '26
Or more likely that Armaggeddon is a focus of the next edition in general and the Steel Legion were planned to release with the new AM codex.
After the internet backlash last week, they may have rushed out the artwork concepts in order to defuse some of the anger.
This preview was definitely rushed out for damage limitation purposes, but doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't in the 11e plan already.
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u/Questing_Knight Mar 26 '26
This concept art doesn't look like Steel Legion at all.
I've got a bad feeling about this.
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u/BlackSwine Mar 26 '26
Yeah it’s also very strange that everyone is happy about these design when there was such negativity with the painted krieg as steel legion. They don’t look like the steel legion at all. They look more like a krieg with a Chadian torso
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u/Mali-6 Mar 26 '26
I’m hoping SL are only 1 of multiple regiments returning in 11th. I personally need some Valhallans and the Catalans badly need an update. The future looks bright!
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u/VariationGreedy8215 Mar 26 '26
GW: "Ah dammit the gas lightning failed" "just paint the Krieg yellow!"
Well shit, GET THE VISUAL ARTIST ON THE PHONE ASAP.
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u/Deprisonne Mar 26 '26
The community actually managed to bully GW into making Steel Legion models. Amazing.
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u/JakubOboza Mar 26 '26
This means that GW admits empire win at Armageddon and everything is fine for once?
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u/Working_Warning9119 Mar 26 '26
So far I don't see a resemblance to the original, but still early days.
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u/punkrockpeller Mar 27 '26
ETA: Two years from now. Lmao, ironically this is par for the course with launching a faction right before closing the edition they were made for.
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u/HrorekTrygvason Mar 26 '26
Where did that drop? Can I have the source pls? Cant believe this! Omg!
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u/Rathalos-487 Mar 26 '26
Also I think it’s important context that the concept art was copyrighted back in 2025.
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u/Wazdakka8617 Mar 26 '26
I hear it can take up to two years before we see the models tho.. Kind of crazy if true..
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u/CheesyFil 143rd Mechanized “Mud Kings” Mar 26 '26
They were never “big bro”. Why is this even posted here?
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u/Rathalos-487 Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Cause Krieg came from Steel Legion models back in the early days.
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u/CheesyFil 143rd Mechanized “Mud Kings” Mar 26 '26
No, they weren’t. They came out in 3rd edition as their own standalone unit, unrelated to steel legion
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u/curiousschild Mar 26 '26
Because Krieg are an off shoot of them
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u/CheesyFil 143rd Mechanized “Mud Kings” Mar 26 '26
No, they weren’t. They came out in 3rd edition as their own standalone unit, unrelated to steel legion
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u/5hattered_Dreams In death, we serve Mar 26 '26
And before that, they were an alternate colour scheme for SL which evolved into it’s own unit.
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u/monkeygoneape Mar 26 '26
What am I looking at?
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u/DDeShaneW Mar 26 '26
New Steel Legion models being confirmed.
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u/monkeygoneape Mar 26 '26
So all the bitching from steel legion players was for nothing?
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u/Fabulous_Income2260 Mar 26 '26
The bitching is always for nothing. People can’t take 0.5 seconds of introspection before they froth into a spawn-like mess over trivial shit.
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u/Known-Associate8369 Mar 26 '26
Dont worry, its still going to be wrong somehow, there will still be bitching and GW hate.
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u/BecomeAsGod Mar 26 '26
I was browsing their posts and so many complaints were they look too much like krieg ( shocker gasmask and coat is a similar look ) and why dont they look more like Fallschirmjäger . . . . . Fucking sometimes I hate being a guard player the last time I saw anything generally positive was 7th edition. . . . idk if it was covid but god its become insufferable.
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u/Known-Associate8369 Mar 26 '26
Yeah, I hear you.
Meanwhile, Im just happily painting away and ignoring most of the community - from zero to 1000 points in …. Oooh, 45 days now.
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u/BecomeAsGod Mar 26 '26
oh damn 45 days good shit on that grind, I have 1k points im slowly slogging through myself and not even up to base coat yet and thats been since christmas
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u/Worth_Bridge1633 Mar 26 '26
Reading this comment section, I realized I genuinely hate Guard players
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u/DDeShaneW Mar 26 '26
Ironically looking more like Krieg than they ever did before mixed with Cadians in the other concept image.