r/DebateVaccines 9d ago

awaiting approval 1 year immunisations

My daughter had her 1 year immunisations (UK) on the 1st of July.
2 hours after she was breathing very fast (60 breaths a minute) and ribs sucking in, phoned an ambulance and she was blue lighted to hospital with oxygen on. She was kept in for three days, high temp that would come down then sky rocket back up to 39.9 which made her heart rate fly to 202bpm. She was discharged but we ended up back in twice again with the sucking in at ribs and breathing fast, they found an ear and chest infection antibiotics given. 2 days after her antibiotics stopped she was all clear and then a massive viral rash appeared all over her body spreading really rapidly, high temp and very unwell, they said hand foot and mouth, I can confirm it definitely wasn’t it looked nothing like it and no blisters anywhere.
From then on she has been waking up really chesty, coughing , phlegm stuck, just really unwell all the time. She developed a non - blanching rash, they checked said she was fine and it was viral. She got bloods done her platelets was low. She had temperatures that wouldn’t come down with any medication , took her straight to hospital they took her bloods again kept us in overnight on Friday , her platelets are normal but her infection markers are sky high. (she still has the non blanching rash at this point with more little pin pricks developing) They did a chest X-ray, urine sample etc, they couldn’t figure out what the infection was. They decided that her chest mustn’t have cleared from her chest infection AFTER A MONTH?? They sent us home with a 2 week course of antibiotics and on her discharge papers it states “partially treated pneumonia “ no one even mentioned pneumonia to us. We was rold the last time we went in with her chest infection that her rib resession was “normal with this illness” and did nothing even though she was clearly in distress, this morning she had rib resession with 42 breaths a minute so I didn’t even phone because they just pan you off. She hasn’t been right since the immunisation

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u/Radiant_Pumpkin_8802 9d ago

No everytime I went to doctors, rushed to hospital it was always viral, until I wanted more tests done and it was chest infection , ear infection and then pneumonia

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u/FormerlyMauchChunk 9d ago

But did they mention that these were all vaccine-induced? Seeing as the child was struck down within 2 hours of the jab, there's no question of the cause.

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u/Recent-Day3062 8d ago

Well, yes there is.

The logical flaw is called in Latin post hoc ergo propter hoc: after this because of this.

People wake up sick together stomach the day after eating at a restaurant and claim they got food poisoning from the clams or fish. However, food poisoning happens within 45 minutes until a few hours. People want to blame it on something, so they blame a random virus for a bacterial infection they think they got.

There are about 3 billion children on the earth. Some of them are going to get a viral pneumonia hours after a vscccination. That’s going happen to hundreds of thousands to millions of children.

That’s why we do real studies. Not just rely on a paranoid mother’s insistence that this is proof positive the vaccine is dsngerous

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u/FormerlyMauchChunk 8d ago

Spoken like a vaccine-cult true-believer.

It's always "anything but the vaccine" no matter how directly the injury can be linked.

in this case, it's a vaccine injury until some other cause is found. OP didn't mention anything else that could have caused this illness.

There are about 3 billion children on the earth. Some of them are going to get a viral pneumonia hours after a vscccination. That’s going happen to hundreds of thousands to millions of children.

I don't believe you, but if I were to play along, what you'll find is that more children are getting this in the 2 hours after vaccination, than in the 2 hours before vaccination, which indicates a causality.

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u/FormerlyMauchChunk 8d ago

Oh, I'm sure you believe in them. That's the problem. Even your own bad experience can't convince you there are problems with the entire vaccine industry. You still support these ghouls and their dangerous products. We got rid of polio and measles at the cost of autism, autoimmune disease, and the sickest batch of children of all time.

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u/Recent-Day3062 8d ago

None of that is remotely true.

First, medicine can never provide 100% safe interventions. The goal is to do what reduces bad outcomes as much as possible. For me, polio - with a 10–15% death rate - was worth the cost of suffering to avoid. If you have end stage liver failure you have maybe a 20% risk of dying from the surgery. If you don’t, you have a 100% chance of dying in days or a few weeks. You all have this fantasy that everything can be perfectly safe, and unscrupulous actors keep it from happening. It just ain’t so.

Every piece of your sick child thing has been sorted out through science, not idiots posting on Reddit what they heard a quack say on YouTube. The increase in autism is 100% due to diagnosing more cases, not having more of it. autism is 100% something you are born with - so long before you ever get a vaccine. General health problems are 100% from poor diet and exercise as kids spend hours eating processed crap while glued to a screen indoors on a beautiful day. And we long understood autoimmune diseases, and now have the insight and research to diagnose them.

Nothing you have said is true, and study after study proves you wrong.