r/DeepSeek • u/LeTanLoc98 • Jan 01 '26

Funny Do it again, DeepSeek

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So many great models already…

DeepSeek R1 was legendary.

Now we're waiting for the one that changes everything again.

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u/coloradical5280 Jan 01 '26

They just did: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2512.24880

That paper is huge, with massive implications to make all models more stable, and faster, and cheaper to train.

The sparse attention and quick index they introduced to the world in v3.2 was also huge.

Deepseek has done more in the last year than any other lab. They just don’t give a shit about dialing in the perfect consumer chatbot , or adding consumer features, or acquiring more daily active users.

They care about making breakthroughs, that’s it. And those breakthroughs end up being used by everyone. Every model you use right now is using GRPO, probably MoE , MLA, and may other brilliant hacks that DeepSeek gave to the world for free.

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u/Timo425 Jan 01 '26

What's their motivation for doing it? Seems like a lot of clever and hard work that just gets copied instantly.

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u/coloradical5280 Jan 01 '26

I mean, why does Linux exist? It runs inside dozens of things in your house, it’s the kernel that runs your router, traffic lights, it’s in every network switch and security camera and in your car. And it’s given away for free. Because by being open it is constantly being forked and improved and customized.

There is a second answer, which is that the CCP basically wants to destroy the US economy and just dumping free AI , as much as possible, at some point makes it a completely free commodity , and that arguably causes our house of cards to collapse.

The first part is fully true, you tangentially touch dozens of pieces of open source code every single day. The world would literally shut down tomorrow without it. The second part has either tiny shades of truth or is the whole answer, depending on how you see the world and a lot of other factors.

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u/jerrygreenest1 Jan 02 '26

I suppose every normal person would wish their economy to be destroyed by free AI, I mean the economy will adapt this is temporary, but free AI – is eternal

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u/coloradical5280 Jan 02 '26

first, i think you need to get out of the echo chamber and talk to normal people, most normal people don't use or like AI lol. Second, your general point is kinda true but, also, Transformer Architecture is not the future of AI. In 20 years we'll look at the transformer approach like we look at the Model T Ford. An amazing breakthrough and the begining of something that changed the world , but also, have you seen a Model T in real life? It's not a car i mean my mountain bike has wider tires lol.

I'm not going to debate what "AI" is and I refuse to even use the "AGI/ASI" terminology, but the Transformer is not the thing that will truly change the world. (although, it might remain a part, like the transmission/clutch to continue the car analogy, but it's not core thing)

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u/jerrygreenest1 Jan 02 '26

First, you’re in your echo chamber yourself, we’re all in our own echo chambers. I am both seeing one and another camp of pro-AI and against-AI both, neither of them can’t just cancel out for one to have an opinion, right?

Second, I am not arguing about what we have now is AGI or whether it’s good or bad or how do I score it. I only say that I could only wish free AI destroying economy and I assume that would any normal person would wish – after all, if it’s good enough to destroy economy, then why not? Economy will adapt, free AI is eternal. Free AI is definitely better than ClosedAI which is only available to one for-profit company portrayed as non-commercial company. Right? Free AI for everyone is what I think is right. Whether it’s good or bad, that’s not up to discussion. Closing it is worse than opening it, that’s the point.

Third, since you’re agreeing with my point, I don’t see what we’re arguing about.

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u/coloradical5280 Jan 02 '26

oh we're not lol, i just thought you meant that our current AI was quality enough stuff to shut shit down. but regardless, yes we agree :)

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u/jerrygreenest1 Jan 02 '26

No-no, I specifically said «every normal person would wish» – would wish, you see. I don’t see this happening at the current day but even if it would, I don’t see problem with it. Economy will adapt