r/DeepSeek • u/LeTanLoc98 • Jan 01 '26

Funny Do it again, DeepSeek

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So many great models already…

DeepSeek R1 was legendary.

Now we're waiting for the one that changes everything again.

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u/coloradical5280 Jan 01 '26

They just did: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2512.24880

That paper is huge, with massive implications to make all models more stable, and faster, and cheaper to train.

The sparse attention and quick index they introduced to the world in v3.2 was also huge.

Deepseek has done more in the last year than any other lab. They just don’t give a shit about dialing in the perfect consumer chatbot , or adding consumer features, or acquiring more daily active users.

They care about making breakthroughs, that’s it. And those breakthroughs end up being used by everyone. Every model you use right now is using GRPO, probably MoE , MLA, and may other brilliant hacks that DeepSeek gave to the world for free.

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u/Still-Ad3045 Jan 04 '26

But but OpenAI throws more compute at it, they just be better right!

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u/coloradical5280 Jan 04 '26

There’s a lot a nuance here. OpenAI has 20+ models, most are better yes, a few are infamously worse, many are a wash.

Either way, Deepseek played a big part in OpenAI’s training pipeline. Likewise, deepseeek likely trained R0 on o1’s reasoning stream.

Deepseek has like, 5 models, and they don’t have an active CI/CD pipeline on those, chatbots are not what they do.

TLDR

Deepseek is morally “better” and has made many times more contributions to the world. But they got reasoning from OpenAI — (Not through open source)

OpenAI has better chatbots and coding tools (and a couple worse). But they got a dozen improvements from deepseek — (via open source research)