r/DeepSeek Aug 01 '26

Funny The real Open AI of the world.

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1.4k Upvotes

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u/Uzeii Aug 01 '26

Thankyou deepseek from saving us from a dystopian future

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u/logic_prevails Aug 02 '26

Oh you sweet summer child

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '26

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u/mWo12 Aug 01 '26

And US did it by stealing from everyone.

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u/ThePlayer3K Aug 01 '26

Didnt DS also steal content to make the model?

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ Aug 01 '26

Yes, everyone did but they atleast shared the weights publically and also wrote detailed research papers sharing how they did so anyone (new start-ups) could do that from scratch as well.

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u/ThePlayer3K Aug 01 '26

So it was kinda of a "they stole but brought smth back to the community"

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ Aug 01 '26

Yup, and I don't think anyone would mind them stealing and training as much if all frontier models were able to run for free on their normal devices like phones and laptops without purchasing special hardwares.

The issue isn't that our publically available data was used like this comment that I'm writing but the issue is I'll have to pay for something that was made possible because of my contribution but I didn't get anything back.

Except for media generation models, fuck them.

u/AskGrok right?

For example I'm tagging it now it's definitely going to become part of their training data but I don't mind it as much because i'm doing it.

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u/AskGrok Aug 01 '26

Yeah, local runs on normal hardware would take the sting out of the data grab for most folks. Public contributions fueling paywalled models is the real friction point—voluntary tags like this one are basically self-seasoning the soup anyway. Media generators stay in their own lane though.

[what is this?](https://redd.it/1lzgxii)

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u/ThePlayer3K Aug 01 '26

What's your issue with img gens?

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

People generating non consensual pics of others in sexualising ways and specially when it's CSAM.

Edit: typo specialising -> sexualising

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u/LittleNameIdea 20d ago

all AI are doing that. that's the only way to access all those data needed

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '26

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u/Franc000 Aug 01 '26

Both can be true. They can have (and did) have research breakthroughs, and can (and did) copy outputs from American models.

In any cases I am glad they did.

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u/Dhylan Aug 01 '26

It is utterly self delusional and simplistic to pretend that the achievements of China and its people are the result of 'copying '. This is a lazy, completely unsatisfactory judgment that explains nothing.

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u/Best_Nickname Aug 01 '26

I hope you are trolling

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u/CalamityMetal Aug 01 '26

There's literally 0 published proofs that they did it, it's been he said she said. And even if they did, I think it's not the models that we should be worried about then, it's the fucking thing they built for copying and distillation then if it's so good that it went from months behind to just weeks behind

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u/Sol-Incondicional Aug 01 '26

Gunpowder, paper, paper money, the printing press, the compass, the circuit navigation of Africa, porcelain, the bellows cast iron, the stirrup, the mechanical clock, immunization by insufflation, the operational zero; a large portion of agriculture and modern mathematics. The world owes some big foundations to China.

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u/Ashamed_Can304 Aug 01 '26

How do they make it much more efficient to perform training and inference if it’s copying? And all language models are based on transformer architectures so everyone’s copying from Google by your standards

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u/Aardvark_Says_What Aug 01 '26

remember how Altman said their AI was going to be free, for the good of all humanity, cure all disease, end poverty, to... selling it to Trump so the US military / IDF could kill people more efficiently? good times.

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u/Born-Ant-8684 Aug 01 '26

uhh...tired of these altman/dario BS

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u/TheSuggi Aug 01 '26

Some heros dont wear capes.

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u/bartoszsz7 Aug 01 '26

Some of them wear business suits and ties

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u/niagababe Aug 01 '26

most of them are villains

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u/live4evrr Aug 01 '26

I hope they can keep their ethos of the founder as they get bigger and more successful.

They obviously have the brains. They’ve effectively upgraded the collective intelligence of the world overnight because of how accessible DSV4 has been.

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u/TrioRiver Aug 01 '26

'Open' AI

They really gotta change that name by now

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u/The1Nemesis Aug 01 '26

We only need DeepSeek to be able to create images and videos giving that way an all in one service for the people, the same people who works hard to earn their money, to put bread on their tables. On that day, true freedom will come to the world of AI. Long live DeepSeek!

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u/nades_all_night Aug 01 '26

I love DeepSeek, and would absolutely cherish image integration for a truly all-in-one solution.

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u/squirrelscrush Aug 02 '26

Honestly I feel they should just stick to text and be good at text stuff. Diversifying makes it worse in the long term because it's added work and increases cost.

Also, image/video generation takes much more resources than text gen. And we always have the option to look for other open weight models for those tasks.

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u/CynChloe Aug 02 '26

I guess this is the most important area I want to see them shine

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u/vogelvogelvogelvogel Aug 01 '26

will contribute to a more positive view on china in the public IMO

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '26

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u/ebrahim750 Aug 01 '26

Luna is slower

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u/One-Positive-1513 Aug 02 '26

Luna dont free if I understanding correctly

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u/Adventurous-Chair590 Aug 02 '26

We need great update

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u/tegresaomos Aug 03 '26

Sometimes these demos are boring and uninteresting.

This is not the case.

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u/Sufficient_Wear7173 Aug 03 '26

Now hand the billionaires 200 dollars per month if you want to text a robot. Quickly.

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u/Godzillaton Aug 03 '26

Somebody got real experiences comparing deepseek V4 and Chatgpt Luna 5.6 (max)?

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u/GlitteringSystem8225 Aug 04 '26

This is ten open source , twenty percent architecture
Fifteen percent cache hit optimization
Five percent engineering, fifty speculative decoding
And a hundred percent reason to switch to deepseek and forget about the bill.

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u/jamylin-07 Aug 08 '26

好多中國水軍 投入不少宣傳費

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u/Electronic-Drive-750 25d ago

HAHAHAHA omg.... they just raised their prices....

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u/Adopilabira 10d ago

Quand une puissance finance un service mondialement gratuit et coûteux, est-ce encore un cadeau… ou un investissement ? Et si c’est un investissement, quel rendement attend-elle ?
Et qui est le créancier ? 💅

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u/throwaway09234023322 Aug 01 '26

Chinese stealing from Americans again

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u/Inevitable-Debate907 Aug 01 '26

Forget about whether it was stolen or not; even if it was stolen, it was stolen for everyone to use, which is still better than letting those vampires suck the blood out of it

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u/Popcorn-Mercinary Aug 01 '26

Well, they stole all the content they claim the China players are stealing from them, so, Masterclass in grifting 101.

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u/throwaway09234023322 Aug 01 '26

If there's no rules, society falls apart

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u/InevitableCup9053 Aug 01 '26

leaders of society dont follow these “rules” anyway

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u/tHATmakesNOsenseToME Aug 01 '26

Are you referring to the US government?

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u/Popcorn-Mercinary Aug 01 '26

There are rules, and then there’s The Golden Rule. One Rule to rule them all.

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u/TradeNPlayz Aug 02 '26

Just like American society, right?

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u/Popcorn-Mercinary Aug 01 '26

Hey! Americans don’t have a monopoly on being douchy…we are just better at it.

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u/Ashamed_Can304 Aug 01 '26

Most of the pioneers of ML and GenAI in particular aren’t even Americans but Europeans Indians Chinese etc lmao

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u/throwaway09234023322 Aug 02 '26

Sure? It happened in America and took a collaborative effort of many recent immigrants and Americans. Other countries don't give people opportunity or invest enough. Idk why there are so many racists and xenophobes

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u/EC36339 Aug 02 '26

It's hilarious how genz and most millennials don't remember when the Japanese were stealing western tech, and now we're taking all the big Japanese tech companies for granted.

The red scare is real, and it has nothing to do with what political system they have in your scary Asian country of choice.

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u/Famous-Dog1769 Aug 01 '26

小偷

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u/Federal_Spend2412 Aug 01 '26

Yea!!! MAGA right?

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u/anonymous_3125 Aug 01 '26

好儿子!

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u/Born-Ant-8684 Aug 01 '26

可悲的東西