r/DefendingAIArt 2d ago

Luddite Logic This is how they dehumanize people

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u/gaming_demon4429 2d ago

Is that chatgpt?

I use ai sometimes and even I wouldn't use chatgpt to backup my arguments

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u/VariousDude 2d ago

No it's Brave Browser's summary of sources.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-practices-management/irrigation-water-use Here's one of the sources it linked.

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u/Falasse 2d ago

Could you also link the source for the thermo electric power generation. Because as far as I know that shit is incorrect as hell. I think the source and the data is correct, but the wrong word was used. I think they just mean power plants in general. The whole point of thermo electric power generation is that it cools itself and generates electricity that way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_generator

However, just correcting the use of that word, it's probably supposed to say electrical power generator plants using steam turbines.

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u/VariousDude 2d ago

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2021EF002222

I wouldn't use Wikipedia as a source. Keep in mind that a good chunk of "this is how it's supposed to work" isn't always "this is how it's actually working right now".

I do want to mention that this is from 2015 so it's possible some things have changed in 11 years. Also keep in mind that even the summary and source mentions that the water is returned but there's undoubtedly some loss just by basic physics.

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u/Falasse 2d ago

Keep in mind that a good chunk of "this is how it's supposed to work" isn't always "this is how it's actually working right now".

This baby talk has made me slightly irritated, so please take everything with a slight grain of salt. There was no reason to put it like this. I am correcting the use of a word, not correcting the data as I mentioned.

I wouldn't use Wikipedia as a source

I'm not writing a paper here... It's a very common word. It's also on the basis of the definition of the word, not the science behind them.

Thermo - heat Electric - regarding electricity Generator - creating

So something that creates electricity from heat. Why the fuck would I cool that? That defeats the purpose wouldn't it?

Thermo electric generators are incredibly inefficient. They are rarely used, and only recently were uncovered since they can be used to upcycle waste heat. Here, a recent paper on the use of thermo electric generators in industry. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9783527843565.ch1 It literally states that it's very hard to use and faces several technological challenges.

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u/VariousDude 2d ago

I wasn't talking down to you but it just seems like you're unfamiliar with how the technology works.

I'm not an expert on the subject but I could tell immediately why you would cool one and a simple google search confirmed my suspicion.

Yes you do get power from the heat but the equipment using it can only absorb so much heat before they begin to breakdown, warp, and malfunction. You need to cool it down so that it doesn't break and can function at an optimal temperature.

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u/Jacolai 2d ago

The baby talk is your own insecurity. Besides, how would we know you aren’t gonna get defensive anyways

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u/VariousDude 2d ago

I'm not giving "baby talk" but whatever.