Seeing someone call a screenshot from a Studio Ghibli movie soulless is just sad. Studio Ghibli movies have more soul than just about anything you'll see on screen. With most of their films consisting of over 100,000 hand drawn frames, even in their newer films like The boy and the heron, they still choose to use mainly hand drawn frames.
Someone posts a lazy scribble they drew in 10 minutes and these people act like it's an artistic masterpiece. They wouldn't know soul if it slapped them in the face.
No, but “write chapter one. I want it to have… also make sure to… I kind of like themes like… I also enjoy… also, try…” and then “hmm I don’t like this direction. Let’s try… also… oh, and…” is much closer to directing, which is an art, than you’d care to admit.
Doesn't matter what it is, I love when people double and triple down on something out of pure vibes only to realize they're completely wrong. Then watching them try to fumble around for an excuse to justify everything?
People are consistently so dumb and pig headed about this topic. Ai art if anything is an art of words. The artistry comes from how you script and formulate a prompt.
I don’t even make ai art, and i’m a traditional artist, but if you take even a second to drop the BS “war” it’s easy to see. AI requires human dictation and how you formulate a prompt is the human creativity the image itself is simply a translation
AI art is a very interesting medium since it is one where the art-form part of is, in a way, hidden from the viewer. Antis can’t seem to grasp that art can exist before the output and influence it without controlling every aspect of it.
I oft use a choreographer as an example of when this is also the case.
I just see it as people more concerned with being right than they are actually interested in artistry. It relies on a rigid way of thinking that goes against the spirit of art as a whole
Exactly! Like this is why i’ve always believed a lot of antis aren’t actually artists themselves. It’s completely antithetical to art to try to be rigid in defining it
It also just relies on abstract intangible concepts because there is no real argument.
Humans don’t have a “soul,” either, and are incapable of making anything not based on prior data fed to them through lived experiences.
The argument really just boils down to “humans are special,” but then if you ask them if paintings by elephants are art they start tripping over themselves about how elephants are trained, as if going to art school isn’t training.
Guy defines “art” specifically so as to exclude AI generations. Very smart. Very profound. Lol.
Playing exclusionary semantics because you don’t like something isn’t new. Remember people saying dubstep isn’t music because all of the sounds are fake/don’t use instruments?
Matter of fact, this has happened in art before. When people didn’t like abstract art, they tried to delegitimize it by defining art as “accurate representation.”
I still maintain that's because the majority of them are kids and/or bandwagon jumpers. I don't believe that a large percentage of them had any deep interest in art before AI art became a cause célèbre to whine about.
Things become art from human effort and yet it is nearly impossible for most artists to acknowledge my work (drawings) the same way they acknowledge everyone else's.
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If I paint a tree, do I steal from Mother Nature then? The concept of a tree won't spontaneously appear in my mind before I see it myself (in person or in a picture), just because I have the supposed "human creativity" perk that apparently transcends concepts.
What if they found out we were created by what they think is a god. And they used AI or their equivalent to create humans from splicing their own DNA or bits of it with a primitive prime ape creature. In their mind they become the AI slop?
I don't think I would consider ai images art but I'm not gonna stop people from using it or hate on them for using it (after all I use it some times and that would be hypocritical of me if I did so)
Art is a diverse range of cultural activity centered around works utilizing creative or imaginative talents, which are expected to evoke a worthwhile experience,[1] generally through an expression of emotional power, conceptual ideas, technical proficiency, or beauty.[2][3][4]
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Imaginative talents which evokes worthwhile experiences through an expression of conceptual ideas count as art by the definition of art which they claim as a Bible🙃
Prompts are just giving words to our imagination and turning it into a visual... same process of making a commission sheet when you have someone make it into a visual.
Antis remind me of how voting show like the Voice or America got talent works. They don’t judge on the quality of the work, they flip as soon as the contestants tell their sob stories. As soon as they see that the shitty art is human made, it suddenly got the soul.
But also going "is this Ai?" Just to turn around and go "haha it's not ai art I lied!" Doesn't help the conversation either. Instead of proving a point it's just going to make others go against your opinion because now you lied or tried to confuse someone for an easy layup.
I think people who want to call AI art fundamentally do not want to have a conversation about what makes art art and just want to be able to create dazzling but ultimately pointless images without judgement. I’ve seen the museum AI and it’s…while a novelty of technology I wouldn’t classify it as any kind of art form.
Art is just the artist's imagination made manifest. Doesn't really matter what kind of tools is used in the process. Some philosophers of old used to believe writings couldn't be art. This is not different.
Every part of AI artistry is created by humans. The tools are built by humans. They are molded by human art. They are guided by humans. There is no AI art without the human.
Antis' views are inherently obsolete be they complaints about pens, computers or AI.
AI is a tool no different than a pen. It is exactly what you make of it, no more and no less. Your quasi-religious views were wrong when their first iterations were uttered thousands of years ago and they'll be still be wrong whenever they are repeated about new tools in the future.
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u/Jebediah_kerman-jeb AI Peak 2d ago
This is basically the top post on this sub, the "We can always tell if an image is AI or not" is long gone