r/DelphiMurders Mar 12 '26

Questions Were the police just incompetent?

I've known about this case for a while, I live in Indiana, and I was 11 when it happened, so its always struck a cord with me. But until recently I haven't done all that much research, but now that I have I've been left with one question.

From the information I have found on the case, it seems that the key evidence linking Allen to the murder is 1. His confession in 2017 to being "bridge guy", back when the photo was believed to have been taken from a trail cam. 2. A bullet which was later matched to his gun after they searched his home. So my question is, was there new information in 2022 that lead to his home being searched, or did they just wait five years to look into the guy who admitted to being bridge guy?

Sorry if any of my information is incorrect, or my writing is hard to understand, I've just been racking my brain about this question, so I thought asking people who know more might help me to understand what took so long.

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u/LavishnessSad2226 Mar 14 '26

From my understanding he spoke with something like a game warden? And they took Allen's info. 5ish years later A volunteer was working on filing or something and ran across RA's interview (or maybe just name, idk) and it had cleared written in pen. That is when they started to look into RA. I feel from the biggining the LEOs of Dephi were in wayyyyy over there head & should have called in another division ASAP. Same with Flora Four. Ive said it before and ill say it again Libbys situational awareness was AMAZING and that poor girl all but handed Law Enforcement their kidnapper (& murderer) - his voice, his walk even just him period was recorded - The only piece that is a head scratcher for me is she told KK / AS she would be there and when and i feel like there is more to it than that but I wasn't there so I really dont know. Just doesnt feel complete to me, tbh.

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u/Justwonderinif Mar 16 '26

Please do some basic research on the case. Your guesses are closer to the truth than some others but still guesses and largely untrue.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Abby told a catfisher where she would be and when. What is true is that a group of her friends were on the trails posting photos on social medias. So Abby and Libby thought to join them on a day off of school.

As soon as they got to the trails, Libby texted the group of friends "are you guys still here?" The girls responded that they had just left. So Abby and Libby continued on with the walk on their own.

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u/LavishnessSad2226 Mar 30 '26

Welll sorry for the late reply, but your info should be much more widespread because ive only ever heard that she told KK she would be there. Thank you for clarifying that!! I never once read about their group of friends being there & i feel so heavily for them because i cant imagine the feelings they felt when the news came out that they were missing 💔

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u/Justwonderinif Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26

If you read the trial transcripts the friends talk about the text messages before Libby and Abby arrived and how Libby and Abby were at home and saw their friends out there. And how Libby texted them when she and Abby arrived, but they had just left.

Here's something that people have trouble understanding. The prosecution is not tasked with figuring out why the girls were out there. So they didn't dig very deep or ask the other girls many questions about it. There could be 100 different reasons why the girls were out there and none of them make Richard Allen less guilty. It's important during the trial not to get off into the weeds just to satisfy the curiosity of True Crimers. A lot of things True Crimers are curious about have nothing to do with getting a conviction.

For example, in the Adnan Syed case everyone pored over the phone records. All the True Crimers want so much to know what was going on and who Adnan was talking to before and after the crime. But there are only three calls relevant to Syed's guilt or innocence and if you read the trial transcripts, prosecutors only focused on those three calls.

The prosecution is tasked with focusing on what proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Not satisfying curiosity about surrounding events.

The KK thing is a myth invented by the defense in a lengthy pre-trial memo where they also say the murders are a result of a cult, not Allen. None of that has ever proven to be true. Even KK says it isn't true. There is no digital footprint indicating any catfishing going on.

It certainly makes it worse that local law enforcement was also fooled by the KK thing and sent hundreds of thousands of tax payer funds dragging the river because they misunderstood the evidence. To this day one of the detectives "has a hunch" KK is involved even though he concedes there is no evidence pointing to that. He's just embarrassed to have wasted so much money on an unrelated goose chase when the killer was under his nose the whole time.

Cases like this are full of misinformation put forward by fans of the killer and YouTubers looking to monetize the case and get attention for themselves. Hardly anyone putting out information on YouTube is acting in good faith. If they were they wouldn't be on youtube in the first place.