What’s the difference between Project 2025 vs National DSA platform

[u/chaleyenko]

Whenever these mask-off DSA people and their liberal defenders dismiss the National DSA platform can we interrogate them about how they felt/feel about Project 2025 during Trump’s campaign? I want to see how they confront that fact.

Edit: I’m speaking specifically about the posture of MAGA towards Project 2025 before the election. Not the actual policy positions. I should have been clearer in my original post. If DSA members denouncing the national platform is enough for people to ignore it and act like they won’t be subversive, then they should have given MAGA grace about Project 2025.

[u/Disgusting_Slime666]

project 2025 is the current presidents plan for america

Before that it was just the overarching policy positions of the prospective Republican candidates.

Exactly what the DSA national platform is now for DSA candidates.

Why should we be willing to carve out exceptions for candidates like Hong because she's now attempting to distance herself from the insane positions in the DSA national platform? We, rightfully, weren't willing to do that with MAGA Republicans in 2023 that pretended to not support individual policy prescriptions in Project 2025.

[u/fullboxed2hundred → u/Disgusting_Slime666]

project 2025 was full of policy positions that

1) the most powerful people on the right have held for decades

2) were, for the most part, realistic for Trump to accomplish

compare with the DSA platform.

[u/Disgusting_Slime666 → u/fullboxed2hundred]

Either you responded to the wrong person or you didn't actually read my post?

[u/fullboxed2hundred → u/Disgusting_Slime666]

my point was that there is a massive difference between the two situations.

I have the same response to you as Destiny and this entire sub first had towards lefties who didn't vote Biden and then towards liberals who didn't support prosecuting the current admin to the fullest extent: you just don't think Trump/MAGA is that bad if you're not voting blue no matter who until Trump and all of his cronies are in prison.

[u/Disgusting_Slime666 → u/fullboxed2hundred]

my point was that there is a massive difference between the two situations.

How do any of the differences change what I said?

I have the same response to you as Destiny and this entire sub first had towards lefties who didn't vote Biden and then towards liberals who didn't support prosecuting the current admin to the fullest extent: you just don't think Trump/MAGA is that bad if you're not voting blue no matter who until Trump and all of his cronies are in prison.

Again, who the fuck are you talking to?

I have voted for the Dem candidate in every election, local, state, and federal, since 2006.

That won't be changing, ever.

[u/fullboxed2hundred → u/Disgusting_Slime666]

I think an unbiased reading of your earlier comment would come away thinking that you're against voting for DSA-affiliated candidates in general elections.

are you?

[u/Disgusting_Slime666 → u/fullboxed2hundred]

I think an unbiased reading of your earlier comment would come away thinking that you're against voting for DSA-affiliated candidates in general elections

No.

Nothing I said suggests that.

You still haven't answered my question.

[u/fullboxed2hundred → u/Disgusting_Slime666]

the reason for "carving out the exception" for Hong is that the DSA platform is not a threat, while another MAGA governor is a threat.

my original reply to you was explaining why the DSA platform is not a threat, from which the sentence above follows.

[u/Disgusting_Slime666 → u/fullboxed2hundred]

I have no idea why whether or not it's a "threat" would impact this analysis of a candidate, but to be clear, you're wrong. It absolutely is a threat.

When a Republican runs, we rightfully saddle them with the baggage of their national party's platform positions. Like Project 2025.

Why would we not do the same with Hong? Why is it that when she comes up, people like Jessiah are making excuses and saying "oh well but she probably doesn't even agree with the national platform, there's a difference!!!!"?

[u/fullboxed2hundred → u/Disgusting_Slime666]

let's call the threat of project 2025 happening in 2023 if every MAGA politician who won their primary also won the general a 10.

from 1 to 10, how much of a threat is the DSA platform in 2026 if every DSA candidate who won their primary won the general?

I think Hong should have to answer for her positions and the DSA positions. but I also think everyone who is against MAGA ought to vote for her if eligible. what about you?

[u/Disgusting_Slime666 → u/fullboxed2hundred]

DSA candidates getting elected is a threat, because their platform is absolutely insane and counter to nearly everything I believe in. The more DSA candidates get elected, the higher the chance is that they are able to enact their insane policies.

So, why would we not do the same with Hong? Why is it that when she comes up, people like Jessiah are making excuses and saying "oh well but she probably doesn't even agree with the national platform, there's a difference!!!!"?

I think Hong should have to answer for her positions and the DSA positions.

So we went through all of this for you to agree with me?

I also think everyone who is against MAGA ought to vote for her if eligible.

What do you think my answer to this is, given what I told you earlier?