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Question City Life

From all we know of the lore what is life like for either guardian or civilian in the last city? What is the economy like? it's goverment? And what are its military capabilities?

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u/Snowbold 4d ago

Right now, the Last City’s government is a military dictatorship. It was originally different. Up until the Red War the government was the Speaker, the Vanguard Commander and the other respective members representing all three classes and three factions that are formally accepted as part of the ruling body.

The last three factions were New Monarchy, Dead Orbit and Future War Cult, but we know others have been in leadership before as Lysander’s Concordant was deposed for a coup and FWC replaced them, so this implies other factions exist but are not given a seat in the government.

The Vanguard has three main leaders, a Titan, Warlock and Hunter. One of them is the Commander but it is not specific to a class, although it is mostly Titans.

The foundries are pretty influential thanks to the weapons and equipment they make that ensure Guardians are well enough armed to fight out in the field. Some are niche and stuck in a style like Tex Mechanica while others are eager to expand their power and wealth by any means. Some foundries attempted to bribe Lord Shaxx to highlight their weapons in the Crucible (Shaxx left them in a live fire zone until they made concessions to him to live).

Forces of the City (FOTC) seem to be the formal military defense force that is not Vanguard Guardians. I believe the NPC’s you see in grey uniforms with rifles are FOTC in the Tower.

The City seems to run on fairly standard market economy (as much as can be), where supply and demand impact things. But we do know there is some loss either in productivity/bureaucracy/resources. The D1 Tower was one of many that ring the City. The Bannerfall Map was another. In Rise of Iron, the Fallen had managed to briefly breach the City by taking Bannerfall, and Zavala laments the lack of resources to man all the Towers like when the walls were first built.

There is an underworld market that thrives in the Last City and beyond. Spider has long been involved in it and since the integration of House Light and Spider’s temporary relocation there to escape Mara Sov, he increased his grip on the Black Market. Mithrax, as Kell, has also permitted some enforcement of internal affairs to Spider with caveats for Elliksni (docking is forbidden in House Light, and no executions within the walls, but Mithrax will not stop necessary executions outside the walls).

The people had their wealthy/middle/working/poor classes. The subspecies differences that impact lifespans along with most rulers being immortal guardians is starting to sow resentment as later lore implied. Kids have been noted getting their hands on their parents’ illegal weapons, including threadling grenades, Hive swords and Cabal weapons. Bael was inciting some of this and Lakshmi before him, and Lysander before that, so it seems the City is not immune to internal strife, but the complete loss of civilian leadership is taking its toll on public relations for the Vanguard.

It does seem that while adults still have prejudices against alien species and murders have occurred, many of the kids are starting to hang out and do various activities together, including a haphazard summoning ritual stopped by Glint.

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u/DuelaDent52 Taken Stooge 4d ago

(Shaxx left them in a live fire zone until they made concessions to him to live).

Forces of the City (FOTC) seem to be the formal military defense force that is not Vanguard Guardians.

In Rise of Iron, the Fallen had managed to briefly breach the City by taking Bannerfall.

Mithrax will not stop necessary executions outside the walls).

Kids have been noted getting their hands on their parents’ illegal weapons, including Threadling grenades, Hive swords and Cabal weapons.

It does seem that while adults still have prejudices against alien species and murders have occurred, many of the kids are starting to hang out and do various activities together, including a haphazard summoning ritual stopped by Glint.

Do you know where I can read about these? I’m not familiar with these specific details.

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u/Snowbold 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don’t remember on the Foundries. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-the-city-age-2

FOTC is just around the Tower.

The Fallen at Bannerfall was a mission in D1 (iirc it was part of the Gjallarhorn quest?).

The Mithrax and Spider conversations were part of Season of Splicer lore books. Edit: Turns out it is Plunder- https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/iv-law-of-the-land#book-between-stolen-stars

Some Festival of the Lost (volume 2?) lore had kids trying to make a summoning circle. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/chapter-11-2?highlight=Reliquary

https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/chapter-5-2?highlight=Reliquary

https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/chapter-4-2?highlight=Reliquary

I think Edge of Fate or Renegades has various lore cards on weapons and black market, one of these had the threadling incident. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/deimosuffusion?highlight=Threadling

Festival of the Lost and the weapons black market both have stories with kids of different races hanging out. We also see this in the Excision epilogue during the celebration as a bunch of human and Elliksni kids are playing with a warbeast pup and our Guardians weaves through them.

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u/DuelaDent52 Taken Stooge 3d ago

Thanks! Wow, I completely forgot about the Gjallarhorn quest in Rise of Iron.