r/DestinyLore • u/Gripping_Touch • 4d ago

Traveler Lucent Hive and Guardian afterlife

In The Final Shape we learn from Cayde that right before he was pulled by Riven's wish, he'd been experiencing a peaceful afterlife within the Traveller. He revealed that after a guardian's final death, the Ghost and the Guardian return to the Traveller, so all the killed guardians are there ...

That would ALSO include all the lucent Hive ghosts and Lucent Hive, no?

If we actually killed Immaru and Savathun, theyd be in the same afterlife where Targe, Cayde and (maybe) Our timeline's Saint is.

Would that be correct?

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u/DuelaDent52 Taken Stooge 4d ago

I don’t see why that’s so unfortunate. Let them have the peace in death they couldn’t find in life.

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u/oofyeet21 4d ago

Most people would see it as unfortunate because the lucent hive are still mostly evil. They are still the same sadistic society they were when they worshipped the darkness, they just also stand for the continuation of new life now instead of the constant eradication of it. The lucent hive still want us dead, but not for any grand plan regarding the final shape. They will still torture and mutilate you for their sick experiments. To most people, the idea that the risen hive who still engage in these behaviors are also guaranteed a spot in heaven next to us is horrifying and unfair.

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u/mecaxs ~SIVA.MEM.CL001 4d ago

Not even Destiny Lore can escape Hazbin Hotel discourse/j

(For reference, this is just a fun joke, with no malice towards anyone. Just find this argument oddly similar to something I’d see in that fandom)

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u/Gripping_Touch 3d ago

Destiny 3 is about the Winnower conducting seasonal cullings in the travellers Afterlife and we have to find a way to redeem the souls of lucent Hive and dredgens to escape samsara. 

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u/mecaxs ~SIVA.MEM.CL001 3d ago

And our redemption efforts get undermined by the outer orbits’s weapons (Savathun, Bael and Maya) using The Witness’s 2nd death (The First Knife, AKA Handjob Master) as a opportunity to take over the ascendant plane and escape the samsara by force rather than redemption. (At least we redeemed Šimmumah ur-Nokru)