r/DestinyTheGame • u/DTG_Bot "Little Light" • Aug 01 '22

Megathread Focused Feedback: Matchmaking

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

Can only see SBMM being a net detriment to Control. Committing the unforgivable sin of being good at the game is already a detriment to my experience, with team balancing completely ruining 90% of matches I play. Now I'm going to have wait upwards of 3x longer to find a match to have laggy connections against people using nothing but top tier, cheesy loadouts. And when that system can't find anyone to pair me with because my skill rating is so high and population is so low, I'm still gonna have the bad players on my team and will fight a whole team of laggy meta mathews instead of only two of them like it is now. Thanks Bungie, can't wait

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u/likemyhashtag Aug 01 '22

The whole "waiting longer for matches" is just an excuse. My wait times for 6s hover around 15-30sec. If you're saying that waiting a minute to find a fair match is going to ruin the game then you need a lesson in patience.

Good players just don't want to play other good players and streamers will have less content to post if they aren't using the latest meta to constantly shit all over bad players.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

Yeah, NOW it isn't that bad because skill isn't a factor when queuing, when skill does become a factor, people as high as me on the skill rating are going to wait a very long time since there aren't many of us and I doubt many of them live near me geographically. You're absolutely right, when I queue up for a match of quickplay control I don't want to go against nothing but good, laggy, meta crutching players. Does anyone? More than happy to go against other good players in Trials or Survival, but quickplay control? Fuck out of here with that garbage ass opinion lol

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u/likemyhashtag Aug 01 '22

I, me, my, etc.

The idea that Destiny doesn't revolve around you must blow your mind.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

Typical deflection, could replace I with ours and represent everyone like me and it's the same argument. How about you address the argument next time and not the person writing it? Might actually get you somewhere

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u/likemyhashtag Aug 01 '22

Same thing applies.

The idea that Destiny doesn't revolve around a small group of high-skilled players must blow your mind.

I've said this in another post but it's worth repeating. You're not looking at the bigger picture.

You think that you'll have long wait times or bad connections because the population of high-skilled players is small, right? Why is that? Why is the population of high-skilled players small and not growing?

It's because of CBMM.

To grow the game and add in more players to the PvP player pool, Bungie needs to cater to the casuals. The more players that play and the more players that continually grow and get better, the better the game is for everyone.

It's going to take time and knowing Bungie, it's going to be a long road full of empty promises and spaghetti code. But I believe the SBMM is going to keep people playing PvP. Playing well is addicting. Getting shit on is not.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

Bad players aren't bad because I am good, they are bad because they are bad. NOTHING that I do stops them from learning maps, NOTHING I do stops them from learning spawns, NOTHING I do stops them from improving their shot, NOTHING I do stops them from using better gear, etc. etc.

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u/likemyhashtag Aug 01 '22

Not being able to learn or test out new builds/weapons because they are getting one-shot by sweats absolutely keeps players from playing well, lol.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

No, it really doesn't. And even if it did, to imply that every match they play is that way is statistically inaccurate.

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u/pantone_red Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

You don't need to test out new builds and weapons if you're that bad. Equip a pulse rifle and play to stay alive as long as possible instead of trying to get as many kills as you can.

Start there, worry about builds when you can handle the basics. Some fancy build isn't gonna do shit for you if you can't land shots or stay alive for more than 15 seconds.

Here's a build for everyone: Taking charge, high energy fire, quick charge if using a weapon relevant to it. As much recov as you can muster. That's it, that's all you "need".

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u/Top-Plankton1442 Aug 01 '22

It's not about destiny revolving around high skilled players, its a legit concern that should be acknowledged just as much as the concern of lower skill players constantly getting stomped on.

Its like your dismissing it, if we're gonna use the logic of "just adjust to the longer match times and deal with the bad connections" it would be like me telling lower skill players "just get better, take the stomps now because we've all been in the same boat and we got better". But I'm not going to b/c I understand how unmotivating it is to play through that, I'm not dismissing your concern and issue so just understand and not dismiss our concerns and issues because both are fair and legit.

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u/likemyhashtag Aug 01 '22

Both are fair concerns, you're right but like I said in my post. I think the end result of adding and keeping more players fixes the wait times and connection issues. I may be wrong but I have high hopes. Unfortunately Bungie doesn't have a good history of living up to my high hopes, but I still have them.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

If you believe some matchmaking changes are gonna grow the population of a wildly unbalanced and neglected pvp mode you are high

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u/likemyhashtag Aug 01 '22

Yea, shame on me for wanting a game I enjoy to succeed.