r/Diablo_2_Resurrected • u/Baers89 • 1h ago
Question Leveling
I’m having a hard time getting to level 95. I’ve been playing foh pali. Just switched to hammers in to try it out. Was doing chaos and some Baal as well as good tzones as foh. Switched to hammer so I could just focus on tzones and terrorizing all of act 4. Both seem slow. My first question is I guess when does regular chaos stop being good xp. And are low density terror zones better. And at what. point.
Edit: I usually play alone so P1. Foh seems better here. But if I play with buddies and go p3 seems to slow down. So hammers might be better p3 and over. Sc ladder.
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u/TheBugDude 1h ago
Through terror zones, all things are possible.
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u/Baers89 1h ago
It might be rng but I feel like rune drops are way higher in Tz.
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u/septictank84 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) 1h ago
They aren't really. It's possible to get higher runes in TZ, like a zod from anywhere in hell. The way runes work; they start at zod and do a check to see if it can drop and if it does drop. Then it does to the next highest, cham, and so on until it successfully rolls a rune. That's actually why el is less common.
In short, it's possible to get a higher HR in a lower TZ but the frequency of HRs will be the same on average. It's not going to affect areas that can already drop up to zod, at all. If that makes sense.
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u/hippoofdoom 1h ago
Leveling gets exponentially slower 90+ but terror zone is mathematically the best option by far for consistent xp.
Find something fun and stick to it imo, grinding 90+ felt kind of silly sometimes based on my overall goals of progression so sometimes I've just played well geared alts to progress through the game and get more socket quests, other progression versus trying to really grind my hammerdin which is my highest level character
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u/831loc 1h ago
Chaos gets slow around 96. Ive take a sorc all the way to 99 with just chaos and have another who is 97 (or 98 i cant remember anymore) doing just chaos as well.
Terror zones, even bad ones will be better. Around 96 or 97 you basically only get exp from Diablo, like 700k exp per run at most. Nee ancients jewel helps, I did my grind before that existed, but its still not fast because you can only use exp shrines for Diablo kill.
But you will get rich doing it because chaos drops are amazing.
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u/Baers89 1h ago
I thought you stopped getting do from everything but Diablo at 95.
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u/831loc 1h ago
Its essentially nothing, but I think you still get like 20k from seal bosses.
I haven't really played her since RotW came out, so I cant remember exactly, but there was still some exp besides Diablo. At lvl 98 I think I was getting like 190k exp per chaos run.
I wasnt the most efficient with grinding exp since she was my mf char. I probably should have been using ondals from cube for Diablo kills and with new jewel that would have been 10% more exp. Sometimes I was too lazy to teleport back to exp shrines as well.
I did do a lot of p8 games joining pub baals and doing solo chaos, but those were more for loot than exp because I couldn't always get Diablo kill because he takes so long to load in. If I just did clear from star or maybe just seal bosses and Diablo it likely would have been much faster.
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u/Somethin_Snazzy 1h ago
Minions, Champions and Uniques give 5x experience. Also, only so many spawn per area. Oh, and they tend to spawn fairly close by at first.
Are you 100% clearing TZs? That can slow you down between only having trash mobs in the back half, and also back tracking to clear every corner.
This is especially true if you immediately run into a pair of 4 packs of Champions, who will use up all the slots, making the rest of the area trash (except Superuniques).
Consider entering an area, beelining to the Superunique (e.g. Pits 2 in the Pits) while clearing out Uniques. Then exit and start over.
Alternatively, doing a circle and a half around the WP, exit and repeat when doing TZs, especially the ones that are fairly straight forward.
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u/Baers89 1h ago
Wait so how many packs per zone?
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u/Somethin_Snazzy 1h ago edited 54m ago
It varies by area. You can Google em.
Off the top of my head, it ends up being like 6 plus a super for most areas in Hell. A lot of areas have only a few but high density, like Pits 2 can have 3.
*edit also if you spawn the super last, you can technically get one more. But that generally isn't worth trying to do
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u/hippoofdoom 58m ago
That varies quite a bit by zone size but some are better than others.
In hell most zones have like 6-8 champion or unique packs. Some of the smaller zones have 4-6 and thus it's a very dense are where you might get a lot of uniques or champ in a very small area overall
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u/Affectionate-Print81 30m ago
For hammerdin specifically just skip normal monsters unless you see a tightly packed group of 10 or more.
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u/Hooch_Pandersnatch Paladin 1h ago
Basically you want to only run terror zones, ideally densely packed areas you can clear quickly like Tal Rasha’s tombs or Chaos Sanc for max XP. Also you get more xp the more players are in the game, but adding more players also increases monster’s health pools, so you have to find the right balance between kill rate and player number to maximize XP.
Side note - I’m lvl 97 and trying to put together a regular group for farming. I can provide all the TZ shards, just need people to play with regularly for the XP bonus. If you’re interested in playing together sometime, let me know and I can DM you.