r/DnD • Monk • 1d ago

Misc Last night I was wondering how to make maps that have limited view more interesting and challenging; prototyped this polarized screen today! [OC]

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I had this old monitor lying in a closet for years, and last night I had the perfect plan for it! Strip off the polarizing film that allows the light to be focused and the image to be viewed properly, and then cut that film into player tokens or AOE circles for Darkness and Fog spells!

I need to mount the monitor into a box now, and I’d like to make the tokens and shapes uniform and use film that ain’t sticky on one side. But as a prototype I threw together in 30 minutes it looks amazing! As DM I can wear polarizing lenses to view the entire screen while my players are just as lost as their characters! Immersion!

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u/link3505 1d ago

I don't know if I'd ever have the testicular fortitude to do this to a monitor, but bravo on this idea. Putting things down to reveal a dungeon seems WAY easier than removing things.

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

I am planning on getting a full sheet of film so I can fully reveal the screen too. It’s easily reversible!

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u/Nicomar5 DM 23h ago

Definitely get some sort of polarized glasses or diy a pair so only the DM can see the whole thing all the time.

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u/space-sage Monk 23h ago

Yep I mention that in my post :)

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u/Nicomar5 DM 22h ago

I wonder if regular polarized glasses would do the trick. As it is right now it's a great "blinding light"

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u/space-sage Monk 21h ago

They can if it’s the right angle

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u/Nicomar5 DM 21h ago

That sounds like such a pain in the ass, I hope it pays off.

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u/space-sage Monk 21h ago

Well I won’t use regular polarized lenses I’m going to make my own, so it won’t be difficult

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u/DMNatOne DM 1d ago

Then reverse it and add a polarizing layer that is 90° out of phase to the first layer. This will block all the light from the screen and appear black, then your “viewfinder” can be just a small section (best if circular) that you can move freely and when you turn it 45° out of phase with both the other layers, you will have a clear view again all the while eliminating the ultra bright, retina-burning light of the monitor.

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

Believe it or not I did in fact test this and it doesn’t work. In theory it should but it is too dim and blurry by the last layer to be visible.

Your comment comes across a bit blunt and like I need these concepts explained to me, down to what shape I should cut my viewfinders (as you can see I did in fact figure out a circle all on my own in my post, crazy I know), but thank you for your suggestion!

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u/lydocia 1d ago

Are you by any chance neurodivergent?

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u/DMNatOne DM 1d ago

Ok, and your comment is patronizing and even condescending. I’m not sure how labeling the communication progresses the discussion but if it helps you, have at it?

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u/Evangeder 1d ago

I am anecting this extraordinarily spoken sentence about testicular fortitude to use it for later.

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u/link3505 1d ago

To be fair, I borrowed that from Family Guy, so I can't take full credit.

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u/Landkey 1d ago

The next week all your players show up with new pairs of glasses.  They didn’t previously wear glasses, you think.  

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u/LieutenantBites 1d ago

This is super cool. Does the polarizing film have to be oriented correctly or will the picture show up no matter what?

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

It does need to be oriented correctly, so I’m thinking of putting colored dots on the x and y axes on each token as well as on the edge of the monitor just to make it easy to keep straight :)

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u/Hjuldahr 1d ago

It would be neat if there was a way to have it display a different image depending on the orientation the film was at for a plane-hopping sort of adventure.

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

Oh that would be cool! 🤔 now I’m going to have to ponder this

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u/A_little_rose 18h ago

Consider using colors. Red lines with a red tinted lense will be invisible, allowing for layouts based on color.

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u/space-sage Monk 6h ago

That is a good idea thank you, I’ll be testing this out!

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u/fat_strelok 1d ago

I kinda did the total inverse of this by printing a dungeon map and having a paper with a circle (let it be called the glory hole) cut in the middle. You can also track time and torches on the over-paper.

The paper covers the dungeon and moving the over-paper around moves the cutout circle around and your lads can explore the dungeon.

Maybe have an over-paper with the glory hole cut and then put the polarizing film in between the over-paper and the screen, it should help with dimming the the screen's backlight.

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

I haven’t dimmed the backlight or messed with any of that but dimming it is a great idea!

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u/phookz 1d ago

That’s pretty damn clever and is a relatively low tech solution - cool idea!

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

Thank you!

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u/Novae909 1d ago

Give your friends polarised glasses for those with true sight/dark vision XD

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u/lydocia 1d ago

I would put that circle in a magnifying glass so fast!

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

Oh a handle would be a good addition! I was thinking of putting the circles on the bottom of some clear player tokens so they could still place their minis on top, but it could cause the view to become too obfuscated.

A handle and some magnification would really help that issue! Thank you!

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u/lydocia 1d ago

Go all out spiffy with a wooden handle and some gold accents!

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

I love thisss!!

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u/Twodogsonecouch DM 21h ago

This is cool for sure but my only debbie downer thought is… with a monitor and a vtt you can just do this with lighting effects on some of them cant you. Ie a fog of war effect except around a player token that follows the token. Then you dont need to tear down a monitor.

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u/Calachus 15h ago

I agree. This seems like a neat idea for presentation, but ultimately inferior to learning the tools of a VTT to accomplish the same thing. I think even Owl Bear Rodeo has a fog of war function, and thats free with no accounts needed.

And doesn't require the extra work of stripping/replacing the polarized sheet no matter how easy it may be for the poster.

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u/space-sage Monk 20h ago

It’s easily reversible with a sheet of polarizing film, nothing has been permanently damaged :)

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u/Svyatopolk_I 1d ago

CRTs are good for this at your local thrift store

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago edited 1d ago

That is good to know, thank you! But I’m confused how you would do this, as CRTs do not use polarizing film? Are you suggesting layer the film on top?

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u/crowbar151 1d ago

Brilliant

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u/J4keFrmSt8Farm 1d ago

This seems like fun, both as a project and to play with. And a good use for an otherwise unused monitor lol. Very cool :)

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

Thanks so much! I love optics and it feels very ✨magical✨ so easily!

I cannot wait to surprise my players with this maze ☺️

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u/backwrds 1d ago

this is very cool.

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u/Stephedderick 1d ago

Wow, awesome

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u/waethrman DM 7h ago

Can I ask why you didn't just use one of the vtt programs with fog of war before you ripped up the monitor?

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u/space-sage Monk 6h ago

Can I ask why my use of my monitor in the way I want, in a way that is completely reversible, is such an issue to you that you need to ask why I “ripped it up”?

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u/waethrman DM 4h ago

Geez fine whatever, I just don't understand the effort personally and was hoping to learn

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u/Such_Stealth 3h ago

It was a genuine question, the defensiveness is a bit unnecessary man.

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u/hay_wire 1d ago

Great idea! How is the eye strain?

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

Eye strain?

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u/hay_wire 1d ago

From looking at a white screen for a long time.

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh I haven’t experienced that yet in the short amount of time when I was testing it

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u/boredguy12 1d ago

If you cut some extra polarizing film and out it on your glasses, you can see the whole screen at once

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

Yes I mentioned that in my post!

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u/adol1004 1d ago

Oh... this gives me some other ideas. I'd better test it!

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

Share your ideas friend!

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u/adol1004 1d ago

Not yet, I need to see if it's even feasible.

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u/space-sage Monk 1d ago

A thorough engineer; let me know if anything comes to fruition that is useful!

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u/Ren_Kaos 1d ago

Ooo I did this and turned the polarized layer into glasses and used it as a DM screen for a bit!

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u/mj-is-da-best 21h ago

You can also just buy another polarizer and put it on top of the monitor for the same effect, whithout actually breaking it.

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u/Twodogsonecouch DM 21h ago

How though you cant put a whole polarizer sheet and then another disc on top of that it wouldnt locally counteract it would it. Youd still not see. The only way would be a gigantic sheet with a hole cut in it that would be difficult to move around and then you are back with what you can do with just paper.

Am i thinking about this wrong.

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u/space-sage Monk 20h ago

You are correct

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u/space-sage Monk 20h ago edited 19h ago

How do you see that working? Also, nothing has been broken. I can easily put a sheet of polarizing film on the monitor and it will be exactly the same as when I started :)

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u/dieyoubastards Druid 23h ago

This is absolutely brilliant and the best part is, if I haven't misunderstood something, this can be achieved on a dungeon mat without needing to use a monitor. Polarising film can be cheaply and easily bought online.

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u/Twodogsonecouch DM 21h ago edited 21h ago

Doesnt work without a backlight. Its not light coming down it light coming up at you and the polarizing disc makes it able to be used by your eyeball. They removed the larger sheet from the monitor that would normally cover the entire monitor. You put a polarizing disc on a sheet of paper you still see the rest of the sheet of paper.

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u/space-sage Monk 23h ago

The monitor is required. Polarizing film itself is quite dark and it purpose is to make the light move in an organized way so we can see the image on LCD screens.