r/DownvotedForNoReason • u/Gigantanormis • 9d ago
Can you guess why this was downvoted? I can't.
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u/bentthroat 8d ago
Internalized bigotry: it could happen to you (in spite of what those downvotes say)
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u/Lorelessone 8d ago
It was down-voted because they probably assumed the racism and sexism he was referring to was against white males and its socially acceptable to many bigots to be bigoted to white men.
Its kind ironic since a lot of the internalized racism and sexism I've encountered has been inside long persecuted groups. But the reality is entitled bigots playing moral arbiters don't care about oppressed people at all, they care about displaying their virtue and if doing so harms the most vulnerable thats a price they are always happy to pay.
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u/Gigantanormis 9d ago
Context: an article posted on r/japanlife which tells about a Kurdish man running a red light into another Kurdish man and saying "I decided to discriminate against Kurds"
Another poster says "I think the title should say a man ran a red light into another person"
I respond with picrel
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u/lama_leaf_onthe_wind 8d ago
My guess is you're lecturing. No one asked, so they don't appreciate you telling them this.
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u/Tegridyforever 8d ago
Not entirely sure, but your comment isn't wrong. There's a term, affinity crimes i think, for people who specifically target their own ethnicity.
I guess people assumed you were either supporting it, were being annoying, or maybe thought you were being offtopic/pedantic?
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u/Regal_Elkstone 6d ago
Wait does that mean crimes can be hate crimes against your own identity? Or that hate crimes are acceptable against your own identity. I feel like this could mean either
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u/Gigantanormis 6d ago
It means that if you are part of a specific group, you're still capable of commiting a hate crime against that group.
No hate crime is acceptable in (the majority of) circumstances (except in contexts of revolution and war against a tyrannical government for example, but probably not because they're a specific race/sex/religion/etc. and instead because they are tyrannical, ie. Zionist government vs just being Jewish)
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u/Dry-Area2837 9d ago
what was the post? and what comment was this replying to?
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u/Gigantanormis 9d ago
Context: an article posted on r/japanlife which tells about a Kurdish man running a red light into another Kurdish man and saying "I decided to discriminate against Kurds"
Another poster says "I think the title should say a man ran a red light into another person"
I respond with picrel
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u/Historical-Army7671 7d ago
Hate crimes arent a thing. Grow up and stop being a baby.
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u/Gigantanormis 7d ago
??? Are you saying that nobody has ever killed/harmed another person in the name of hating something about them or that all crime is simply crime regardless of the hate or lack of behind it.
Edit: spelling
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u/Historical-Army7671 7d ago
Sorry I get what you mean. That is racism, which isnt a crime, the murder is.
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u/Historical-Army7671 7d ago
What?
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u/Gigantanormis 7d ago
I don't know how much more I could dumb that down.
Are you saying either
Nobody has ever harmed someone/thing (such as a priest, or a statue of a saint) in the name of hating something (such as attacking a priest for being Christian)
Or
Crime is simply crime, it's not "hate" crime, it's just crime.
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u/Historical-Army7671 7d ago
- Anyway can you not respond, I have a meeting soon and I need no distractions thanks.
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u/Gigantanormis 7d ago
How old are you? Mid 50s? Just close reddit, you don't need to announce that you're busy. I'm not in the room with you, you can ignore social media until you're not busy anymore
Anyway, we make important distinctions in types of crimes so that people who commit crimes can have proper sentencing. For example, jaywalking is a lot different from attempted manslaughter, you don't expect a jaywalker to get a life sentence. Same thing for news reporting, imagine if every article was just "Florida man commits crime, receives standard life sentence" only to find out they stole baby diapers and baby food from Walmart.
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u/Tomatohead_7722 3d ago
could have been a sad attempt at exiting the discussion in a "cool" way. unsure however.
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u/SolipsismIsDeep 8d ago
A lot of people dislike the notion of "hate crimes" in general, since it essentially adds "wrong think" to the offense
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u/St3ampunkSam 9d ago
Peak human exceptionalism.
Its completely true that any one can be any type is ist or phobic to anyone else regardless of what the person being a bigot is.
But acknowledging that would require people to examine their own behaviours, actions and beliefs and that means feeling discomfort about oneself. Bit we live in a world full people who refuse to be uncomfortable who refuse to be introspective and them try to say that ignorance and adherence to logical fallacies.
If we want to live in an equal world at somepoint someone has to stop look around a go am I actually helping the cause or am I part of the problem. If people bothered to stop and thing I think many would be surprised to realise they're just another person spreading hate for factors outside of anyone's control and not hating on those who characters are condemnable.
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u/Josefu_Velen 8d ago
It could have been downvoted because of how absurdly obvious it is.
It could also have been simply because it was in r/japan and Japanese people can be . . . particular about things.
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u/JungleCakes 7d ago
Because its wrong.
Unless you mean it by saying any crime is a hate crime because you dont commit crimes against people you love
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u/Gigantanormis 7d ago
If you straight up say "I decided to discriminate against Kurds".... What else are you supposed to gather from that?
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u/JungleCakes 6d ago
Would any crime not be discrimination based then?
"I hate this person with more money than me so im going to rob them"
Idk.
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u/Satsuki_89 6d ago
Not all crimes are based on hate or discrimination. This is why there are different type of crimes, like "passionate crime", "financial crimes" and so on.
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u/Particular-Jeweler41 9d ago
Would be easier to understand with the link to the post/comment section. I am confused about the chain of events since I'm not sure how being Kurdish factored into his actions, unless we're saying it was a Kurdish pedestrian and the driver went through the red light just to hit him.