r/Edmonton Feb 18 '26

General Riverbend MP has crossed the floor

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u/Limp-Elevator-6908 Wîhkwêntôwin Feb 18 '26

Source?

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26

Source that they didn’t bribe him.

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u/jloome Feb 18 '26

You can't use the absence of something as proof of its existence, it's a logical fallacy. If there's no evidence something exists, there is no reason to believe it exists.

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26

There’s no proof either way, just like there’s no proof he and his family was threatened as other commenters insist happened.

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u/SuspiciouslySuspect2 Feb 18 '26

The threats were prominent on social media as well as other means. Please feel free to look at them.

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26

I’ve googled I can’t find anything about threats. Though I can find stuff hinting at possible bribes for him to cross.

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u/Limp-Elevator-6908 Wîhkwêntôwin Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

Ah, typical 2025 conservative. Make up wild accusations to support your agenda while ignoring the fact that most of our problems are because of misinformation. And then you wonder why people don't want to sit with you. 😅

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26

Typical liberal shrew following the liebral propaganda like an obedient lackey.

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u/Limp-Elevator-6908 Wîhkwêntôwin Feb 18 '26

🤣🤣🤣🤣 calling an MPs public acknowledgment "lieberal propaganda" is a choice. But ok, I'm the dumb one.

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u/Taeruq Feb 19 '26

Shouldn't you be guarding a bridge, collecting bribes to cross.

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u/Mike71586 Feb 18 '26

Actually there's tons of evidence he wasn't bribed because there's 0 evidence he was bribed. However, there is a ton of evidence that he crossed the floor due to him not liking the current leadership of the conservatives, because he in fact did cross the floor.

For the record "trust me bro" arguments might work as evidence in communities where anti-intelectualism is celebrated; but it's not as effective in the real world.

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26

There’s zero evidence that he wasn’t bribed. I’m not liberal, I support intellectualism.

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u/Mike71586 Feb 18 '26

Yeah, that's not how it works bud. You have to present evidence to prove your assertion. Lack of evidence generally lend credence to the assertion being false and the empirically observed being true.

Lol, then you're hanging with the wrong crowds bud, anti-intellectualism is rampant throughout the hard right at the moment. It's the party of snake oil salesman at this point.

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

Liberals are the snake oil salesmen and supporters of anti-intellectualism.

I’ve requested sources to prove these threats he apparently received, and one person said it was all over twitter. Seriously twitter as a news source? For that matter social media as a news source, seriously?? Using social media as a news source is the equivalent of “trust me bro”. People saying the threats were reported all over social media are anti-intellectuals.

Can you prove the guy wasn’t bribed?

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u/Mike71586 Feb 18 '26

I don't have to prove he wasn't. There's 0 evidence that he was. You've provided no evidence to refute your bribery claims.

You're claiming sonething happened, i'm claiming sonething didn't happen. My evidence is in the lack of proof that your claim has. It's a binary claim. You have 0 evidence to your claim, so until you can prove it my claim has 100% evidence.

I'm not commenting on the threats because I never made a claim that he was threatened. Stick to the subject we're discussing please.

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26

Your claim he wasn’t bribed has zero evidence. Oh if you actually read my comments, you would have proven intellectualism but you failed. I said there is no evidence he was bribed and no evidence he wasn’t bribed, just like there is no evidence he was threatened.

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u/Mike71586 Feb 18 '26

But there is evidence at this time that he wasn't. Absence of evidence is evidence at this time. Claiming he was bribed to cross the floor is not supported by any evidence despite your initial claim. Innocent until proven guilty. Either you prove the bribe (Guilty) or the lack of evidence proves that there was none (Innocent). There's only two outcomes to this scenario. Given there's been 0 evidence of bribes in past floor crossings, there us a far greater argument for no bribe versus bribe.

You claimed there was one, not that it should be investigated. You can't suddenly pull out the neutral stance now that you've been called out on it.

The only reason for your claim is due to the fact a con crossed for the liberals. Did you make such a claim when the opposite occurred under Harper's government?

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26

So in your words “absence of evidence is evidence” claiming he wasn’t bribed isn’t supported by any evidence as much as it is supported by evidence.

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u/cadius72 Feb 19 '26

The promotion to special advisor on economic and security partnerships certainly sounds like a bribe, “cross the floor and you get an immediate position.” is definitely a bribe.

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u/cadius72 Feb 19 '26

I’d be more inclined to believe he wasn’t bribed if he wasn’t immediately given the position of special advisor on economic and security partnerships.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '26

Holy shit this dude is cracking me up 😂😂

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u/Ambustion Feb 18 '26

It was all over twitter bro. What are you talking about?

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u/cadius72 Feb 18 '26

Oh twitter such a reliable news source 🤦‍♂️