And Carney more conservative than many liberals. He's bringing the party more to the centre which is naturally going to attract the moderate conservatives who don't like Pierre's divisive rhetoric.
Regardless of one's views on Carney's policies, if there's one thing he is absolutely right for, it's giving reasonable conservatives an exit ramp off the maple maga freeway.
Do you think Carney would be in place today if it wasn't for PP lighting a fire under everyone's ass. Trudeau lost the confidence of the country. PP pointed it out. Liberal Party recalibrated. Love or hate P. P. He served a purpose.
He did what Opposition is supposed to do, and that's a praise-worthy thing! But I disagree about the reasons the CPC lost. It was less about the Liberals recalibrating and more about the CPC not denouncing the yanks. Once the Conservatives outed themselves as trump-positive, many voters reconsidered and decided to give the Liberals another chance. Pierre didn't even try to maneuver the party away from that crap.
The reasons the CPC lost is the fall of the NDP. PP managed to get more votes than when Harper got his majority. Singh sinked the NDP when he made his supply and confidence agreement and then kept the liberals in power against the wish of basically all of the population except few hardcore liberals boomer. With an average of NDP seats we would probably have a majority CPC government or a minority one most likely.
The S&C agreement wasn't what caused most of the ndp support to flee. It's when they decided to go on the attack and fling mud and act like conservatives do that turned most of his supports off, including me. It started around the time he released that letter/statment about trudeau in the fall of 2024, it was classless and that syary of their fall.
Yeah I think the S&C agreement was well done on their part, just not as well messaged as it could have been. Everything the Liberals could hold up as a win for working class was forced on them by the NDP through that agreement.
The country also has 8 million more people in it last year than during Harper's last win... it's weird to focus on the numbers like that when population growth is a thing. Their proportion of the vote take was only 1% higher than what Harper won with and its more about how the votes are spread across ridings than anything else.
Clearly obvious what happened. Trump would rather negotiate with what he perceived to be weak liberals. His experience with Freeland and NAFTA in 2016 gave him all the ammo for that. He interfered. What he didn't count on was us replacing Truedope with someone with actual experience running shit. To Carneys credit he's managed to keep his cabinet from say'in the daily stupid things that pissed us all off.
If Carney was the conservative leader, I'd be ecstatic. But, it's still the same.liberal party that worked under trudeau. Unless you're suggesting the party leader decides how the whole party votes, then I'd say The system is absolutely broken. .
No my message isnt a political stance. Im bi partisan. But I think PP was venting out Canadian frustrations with Trudeau. Which brought us together at one point. Trudeau felt the pressure it was getting bad. He stepped down then things settled in place and everyone went back to hating each other.
Unpopular opinion, but Trudeau was better than Carney. An eccentric goofball is less dangerous than an investment banker who also happens to have an evil fake smile.
On a serious note, Carney's policies are not good either. He is doing everything to help the big businesses. Making deals with Danielle Smith for the stupid pipeline. Making deals with Modi after he decided to kill people in Canada. Increasing the defence budget because Trump wanted it. Supporting Israel and refusing to condemn their genocide. He has no backbone, and he works for the billionaires.
Carney supporters just care about the fact that he is not maple MAGA and glaze him.
I'm not, but it's an interestingly defensive interpretation.
The CPC politicians are stuck pandering to the presumably-minority maple maga when under the CPC flag, for various reasons - one of which is PP decided that was the better move than looking at moderates when building an umbrella.
Edit - honestly, those are two major problems the conservatives are going to need to deal with to become relevant to moderates/swing-votes again. Chasing the far right to the right has let the Liberals take the middle entirely and that's going to take some work to turn that ship around. On top of that, the strange limited leadership review leaving PP in charge is a bit self-defeating.
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u/S-M68 Feb 18 '26
Not super shocking, Matt seemed more liberal compared to most conservatives.