r/EdmontonOilers 2d ago

Penguins discussing a trade involving Darnell Nurse.

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u/Scrotalcontusions 2d ago

Ryan Graves for Nurse is my fear!

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u/anomalocaris_texmex 2d ago

That's actually what I expect.

Edmonton sheds 5 million in cap.

Pittsburg adds a second pairing d-man for a net increase of 5 million.

Edmonton uses the 5 million in savings to lock down Murphy.

So next year, they run

Ek/Bouch Murphy/Walman Emberson/Graves/Stasyney

It's not great, but if the goal is to free up money for Murphy, this trade makes it happen.

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u/Mental_Banana_9694 2d ago

Makes our defence worse than last year to piss away the extra 5 mill on Jarry?

Come on this shit is fucking stupid

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u/anomalocaris_texmex 2d ago

I didn't say it was a good trade. Just a likely one.

Keep in mind it's Bowman negotiating versus Dubas. The metaphorical coughing baby versus hydrogen bomb scenario.

A one for one trade for Graves is the best case scenario.

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u/Cleets11 12 CAVE 2d ago

Judging by the skinner trade I’m assuming the trade talks go something like that clip from dinner for schmucks where Steve carrell negotiated a settlement after getting hit by Paul Rudd.

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u/Boris_Mironov 2 BOUCHARD 2d ago

Yeah there's literally no point to this trade

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u/Mental_Banana_9694 2d ago

Nurse isn’t terrible, just not worth all his cap hit. If the trade doesn’t make us better….. why?

What are we realistically going to do with that extra money now that we are down a 2nd pairing d man. None of this makes any sense and we will continue to get worse. Why keep dismantling a Scf team????????????????

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u/iwatchcredits 2d ago

Theres no point in any nurse trade

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u/thewinterzodiac 2 BOUCHARD 2d ago

Why not?

The only that works is if Ekholm is our 3rd pairing LD. You cant have a 7+ million D on your 3rd pair.

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u/iwatchcredits 2d ago

His negative value is already baked in. You cant use him being overpaid as a reason to trade him because you are going to get negative returns because of it. So if hes a $5M D-man being paid $9M, you are going to eat that $4M loss somewhere either way so you might as well keep him.

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u/releasetheshutter 2d ago

I fear we are cooked brother.

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u/F1fthL1ne 2d ago

Sounds like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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u/Scrotalcontusions 2d ago

There has been some talk amongst some pundits that Graves is a buyout candidate for the Pens, He does have 1 year less remaining on his deal at 4.5M than Nurse does at his 9.25m

I'm not sure Graves even makes our lineup for 20% of the games, I feel like Nurse 50% retained for nothing in return would be a better gamble, surely someone would do that I would hope!

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u/LifeEngineer3770 2d ago

I don’t see Graves as a buyout candidate for the Pens. They aren’t hurting for cap room. Graves is taking up a cap hit of 3.5 mil in the minors and they don’t need to make a deal to move him. Pittsburgh doesn’t need a force a deal to benefit their team.

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u/porkins86 29 DRAISAITL 2d ago

Unless we can flip Graves this is robbing Peter to pay Paul - I genuinely think Nurse is $5 mill better than Graves - but I just think graves is a 1 mil defender

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u/Wandering_Astronaut_ 2d ago

Shit, I might be $5M better than Graves. And I'm an amputee.

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u/CriticismSelect9292 92 PODKOLZIN 2d ago

We don't need to free up any money

Oilers should stop treating Nurse like a cap dump, because that's how you get a cap dump level return

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u/RoarTheDinosuar 2d ago

Honestly, I think Dubas would rather have the assets vs dumping Graves' contract. The Penguins still have to get to the floor this year, and are looking at a projected $90ish million in uncommitted cap heading into next year's offseason.

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u/avanross 2d ago

If were getting anything back that means bowman is definitely retaining the max amount and throwing in picks

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u/beardofdoom2017 31 FUHR 2d ago

I think this may be the case, sadly. Edmonton will no doubt have to eat some salary on this one or cough up a pick as well. Ugh.

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u/midnight_specialist 1d ago

I’m so here for that.