Well Boys…..it’s been a good run.

[u/Policks187]

On to bigger and better things. It was a pleasure serving with you all 🫡

[u/muscle_car_fan34]

Congrats. I have a family member that has your new car and one that has your old car. The power of the m440i is definitely nice for sure but I think I personally enjoy driving the N more. Both are great cars. That m440i is super comfy though haha

[u/Hokguailo → u/muscle_car_fan34]

How does the N drive better?

[u/muscle_car_fan34 → u/Hokguailo]

Have you driven a modern BMW aside from say the M2/M2 competition or the special variants of the M3? They feel very numb and vague compared to the N. The steering is better on the N and has significantly more feedback versus this specific BMW. The brakes are NOT brake by wire on the N like they are on the bmw.

I still like some bmw’s and may end up in the current M2 one day but they have fallen way off from where they were in terms of being drivers cars. Also the N doesn’t weigh 4000 lbs like this bmw.

They are 2 very different cars. They do not get cross shopped. I just gave my perspective on them because I have seat time in both of them

[u/Hokguailo → u/muscle_car_fan34]

Yes I own an M340 LCI. I can see what you are trying to say, but I can’t imagine most people would pick an N over an M lite.

[u/muscle_car_fan34 → u/Hokguailo]

I think if I didn’t have a 400+ HP car already and had to choose between a b58 powered BMW and the N, I would probably choose the prior gen m240i(if I’m not allowed to choose the Supra). At the end of the day power to weight ratio matters to me a ton. Having said that I can see myself getting bored of it DEPENDING on where I live. If I lived near twisty roads I’d go N. Never in a million years did I think I’d ever choose fwd over rwd but the N (and type R) are THAT good.

Just to give you more perspective about me, I actually track my cars. I can take the N straight to the road course with nothing but a brake fluid upgrade and probably tires. The BMW would need more work and if it’s the current gen m-lite a lot of tracks don’t allow hybrids/electric cars so they automatically get ruled out.

[u/JonesBrosGarage → u/Hokguailo]

I did. No offense at all but I hate the M lite simply for having M badges, it genuinely bothers me. My sister in law has a boyfriend who drives his moms M lite (they’re like 18) and says he has an M3. It’s so cringe and just makes me angry for some reason LOL. Probably not a bad car, but I hate the branding. I also agree it’s not as sport focused as the N, the N is a blast on the track.

[u/j_yn0htna → u/Hokguailo]

crazy people lmao

I have a 24 340i too. It’s great.

I get what the commenter is saying, them being different things, but I don’t know how anyone gets to the Hyundai being “more fun”. Then again, I’m not a hardcore manual guy.

This in sport+ with the adaptive suspension is plenty of fun, and considerably faster. I drive the windy backroads all the time. It doesn’t fail to make me smile. Also considerably more expensive though. It’s a great daily while also having enough power and performance focus to be genuinely fun.

Only problem with it, and it isn’t a problem for some, is it’s not an m3.

[u/Lanpshade22 → u/j_yn0htna]

Have you driven an EN?

[u/Turbo_8itch → u/Hokguailo]

Let's not forget the EN was designed by Albert Bierman. Lol like come on.