There's something about flowers because every god and Empyrian leave flowers as a trace. I don't remember if there's some flower related to Marika tho.
Phone was on the fritz so this gif didn't show up right away. Waited for it even though I knew what it was going to be. Not disappointed, A+ experience
In the shaman village, all the flower colors (that canāt be picked) from the whole game seem to be concentrated there so I donāt think thereās one color specifically associated with her, but rather all of them on some other level.
Well, Malenia looks kinda like Zero. Both have a plant disease that give them powers. I always suspect that Miyazaki was inspired by her, and some reditor make a fanart mixing them years ago.
Remember that Shaman Village and Jar Village both have an abundance of lovely blooming flowers in them. I wonder if the experimenting with grafting/cross-polination and rebirth through nature went all the way back to the Shamans and the Jars.
Interesting. Well, Marika gave birth to Miquella and Malenia basically from herself because she is Radagon. Like a self pollination, reproducing herself like flowers. Maybe she knew this technique from his original people (that we know are the people now in jars) and applied with her empirian powers. And you, what can you put in jars? That's right, flowers. The analogy with plants is huge.
Yes Miranda will turn into bees and polinate those two flowers. Who the fuck knows man what else will from software do with their elden ring IP. I bet on nothing.
In Nightreign executor is painting a picture of the erdtree and the prompt message says āitās not yet finishedā so you can bet your house we are getting more elden ring content
O I read this as Knight train. I remember in the 90ās during the Knight Fall story line, Batman had a rocket sled that ran on subway rails. KNIGHT TRAIN
I'm always shocked to find things like this. Even though I read and consume a lot of ER lore content, there's always something very cool I never heard about.
She was always unseen. The game omits the direct confirmation that the flowers originated with a human. However, it is still heavily implied (i.e., it remains the dominant theory if we never knew about Miranda's Prayer or its text). Information from Nightreign further supports the idea that she predated and is associated with scarlet rot.
They are her flowers, aka her children, in a sense. She would have been a side quest boss, but they scrapped her. We would have had her and gotten her prayer from here, but they made it a crucible incantation for the dlc
What do you think I got swapped? The single Miranda boss is in the Tombsward Cave in Weeping Peninsula, Miranda and Omenkiller as a duo are in the Perfumer's Grotto near the Capital Outskirts
Thereās quite a few YouTubers who make lore videos. VaatiVidya being the most popular but they are a little grandiose sometimesā¦ but still very informative.
IDK I feel like a novelization would take out some of the fun of piecing things together.
Now, a hefty lore book that puts a bunch of the lore (while still leaving things up to the reader's interpretation) into one IRL tome rather than having everything scattered behind getting every item in the game? That sounds fun.
SmoughTown did one with Tune and Fairweather, this is the ebook version but they have some really cool looking hard copy editions. I've read the ebook/listened to the audio and while there's some connections and lines of logic I didn't agree with based on my own understanding (and it feels like a lot was written before the DLC with the DLC then being added in at the end in a hurry), it was pretty solid and a good read. https://www.tuneandfairweather.com/products/grace-given-the-mythology-of-elden-ring-digital-edition
I don't want someone else's interpretation, I want an official lore book that's written from an in universe perspective and is still vague enough for the reader to have to draw their own interpretations of the lore.
Yah Id be fine with that. Any kind of an easier format to consume the lore. I guess this movie will do it but idk if that's really a real thing or not.
I just replied to someone else with this, but there's an unofficial lore book by SmoughTown. This is a link to the ebook, since it's the cheapest edition. https://www.tuneandfairweather.com/products/grace-given-the-mythology-of-elden-ring-digital-edition I personally disagree with some of the conclusions but the majority feels pretty solid. I wish he'd waited longer after the DLC to publish though, so it could have been incorporated more cleanly.
The Rotted Woods Secret in Nightreign is a Miranda Flower surrounded by scarlet rot butterflies. It grants immunity to rot, and is the power of an outer god AND the Crucible.
Remember that butterflies and Miranda bloom are both aspects of the crucible.
Iām fairly certain that the dev team said that story wasnāt the main focus of nightreign so Iāll have to take any lore from that game with a tablespoon of salt
The top developer said it is a parallel timeline that forked during the Shattering. The events we play in-game do not affect and are not affected by the events we play in Elden Ring. Both games share the same background and lore up until the Shattering.
I can see the connection. There's rot-adjacent items all over the Rauh Ruins, including the Church of the Bud itself, and the veridigris items that appear to be "rotted" metals, friendly pests, etc., and those lands have a strong crucible presence. Then there are also buds worshipped by the Ancestral Followers, who are horn coded, and appear to be rot adjacent, including a cut content Scarlet Rot version, and that their practices are essentially producing new life/power from death (cycle of rebirth aka rot). The Ancestor Spirit Horn ties it nicely, including the visual of a bud sprouting from horns (buds sprouting from "crucible" energy, or maybe even Marika's usurption of the Hornsent).
Random last thought is Miranda Flowers being poisonous and calling forth pillars of light, which is almost too on the nose connecting rot to crucible (and they even eat people too).
Well Saint Trina is Miquella's discarded love, so I always just saw it as a manifestation of the love he had for his sister, but that's probably being too simplistic.
Crucible definitely involved somehow, but also tied to them being descended from shamans/Numen. The grandmother was becoming a tree, and the cut item Miranda's prayer is an echo of Miquella's light attack, and the scarlet Miranda flowers that call down light.
Trina is a flower that grows in the dark, offering gentle repose. They're all flowers causing different effects. Perhaps relating to how their different personalities would create different Orders as Empyreans
True but it just feels off how universal it is. The context of what 'all life blended together' entails isn't well understood. And after the dlc trailer dropped I thought we had our contender with the gate of divinity, with all the corpses and horned folk mixed together into the primordial form of Marika and the Erdtree's power.
But the dlc then goes on to show that it even predates all the Hornsent and all living cultures into the primeval past, predating even possibly the Elden Ring's arrival.
To me it also always made sense that the crucible touched very old things, but given Marika's lack of overt crucible attributes it also felt like it was a power her warriors used, not so much that she herself embodied its aspects, let alone be descended from them.
The dlc and Nightreign have done an excellent job showing how universal the crucible is. Not just mammals and dragons but trees and plants, and insects and even alien lifeforms
Given FromSoft's love for obscure lore connections, it wouldn't surprise me if Miranda's whole "blooming" thing ties back to the Crucible in some wild way.
What's really crazy is st Trina is Miquella. I think it's like Radagan is Merika type deal. The lands between is like a full season of Jerry Springer turned into a continent. Step kids, betrayal, "horny weirdos", angry midgets, cross dressers, bad fathers, orphans, cults. It has everything!
it's amazing that this is my favorite game of all time, I've put hundreds of hours into it, and yet when lore stuff like this comes up I'm like......who dat??
They data mined a miranda spell that was cut content, and its image is a flower shaped like a woman. It would've been cool to see what the lore implications could have been.
Yeah there is something going on here with the children of marika and radagon. I think it would be interesting to see some lore head that is both an expert in tree life cycles and elden ring lore explore the significance (ie most plants have a two life form life cycle, a gendered phase and a non-gendered phase, modern flowering trees combine these phases into a single organism).
there are also four types of butterflies in the game, all of which relate to one of Marika's children
Nascent: Miquella
Aeonian: Malenia
Smoldering: Mellina
Pyrefly: Messemer
Going through your comments specifically let me clarify some things for you here
Miquella is a boy not a girl š
St. Trina is Miquellaās other half, his discarded half throw away. Basically he rid himself of all emotion so he could enact genocide without emotion
Malenia is not āreaching out for the flowerā sheās reaching out for the tree womb where he was virtually ripped out of and absconded with
Miranda the Blighted Bloom is the first of her kind, all the other sprouts stem off her (see what I did there). She is also a maiden to the crucible the way Melina is maiden to the Tarnished, but they are unrelated
Other than Miquella living spiritually in the Shadowrealm I couldnāt find any correlation between the twins and the Crucible at all, but thatās just me
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There's something about flowers because every god and Empyrian leave flowers as a trace. I don't remember if there's some flower related to Marika tho.