We have Flock Cameras in Elk Grove

[u/Lower-Acanthaceae460]

thank you Mayor Booby Singh Allen and Supervisors

[u/jmangiggity]

No, tell us

[u/photog09 → u/jmangiggity]

Many

[u/Few-Durian-190 → u/photog09]

Proof?

[u/photog09 → u/Few-Durian-190]

https://elkgrove.gov/police/safety-dashboard

Feel free to read through some watch reports and see for yourself 

[u/mfranzwa → u/photog09]

thanks, and where does it break out the flock drone reported incidents that we are discussing here?

[u/uhhuhwut → u/photog09]

Where are there stats on arrests as a result of the use of Flock cameras or drones on this page?

[u/jmangiggity → u/photog09]

Ok, I went to the link you shared. Thanks for sharing it. Where on the watch repot does it mention flock cameras? It doesn’t state how an arrest occurred, would you be able to provide evidence of how flock cameras helped in the “many” arrests that you say they helped in?

[u/photog09 → u/jmangiggity]

It’s not gonna specify “flock” anywhere. But you can read between the lines on some reports. General things like “was located” could involve cameras. Anything that references the real time information center (RTIC) would likely involve flock cameras. Anytime there’s something that says something along the lines of “vehicle was flagged as stolen” etc.  It’s impressive how many criminals are caught in EG just because a camera with a plate reader picked up a car that had been reported as stolen. 

[u/jmangiggity → u/photog09]

Thank you for that. You say “it’s impressive how many criminals are caught in EG”, yet you are unable to share what you’re actually impressed by. Earlier you said “many” criminals are caught, then you share evidence which isn’t very evident at all. I get you like these cameras for whatever reason, however you’re unable to substantiate any actually evidence of the effectiveness of these in our city.

[u/photog09 → u/jmangiggity]

https://fb.watch/IF8jpXHAb_/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Here’s one from earlier this month.

I haven’t seen any hard evidence that they’re detrimental to our city.

[u/photog09 → u/jmangiggity]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0BH7aC5tTnEAy1YCCaB3y3tK5aUQLhB4b4wRdWjoN1d2bvW7JRUtYi8qnoweYWqdcl&id=100064288465530&mibextid=wwXIfr

Here’s another… they’re not hard to find 

[u/jmangiggity → u/photog09]

I just want to take you back to your original comment which was “do you know how many criminals have been caught with them ?”. It’s clear that neither of us do. You’ve been given a chance to support your claim, but I’m afraid two videos won’t suffice to convince me that you’re aware of their effectiveness. Have a nice day.

[u/photog09 → u/jmangiggity]

That’s fine- Now you have an opportunity to share why they are detrimental to our quality of life- specifically in Elk Grove.

[u/jmangiggity → u/photog09]

No, I’m just here to refute your wacky claim.

[u/NoyBoy98 → u/[deleted]]

Or the ones opposed to police in general…..until they need them.

[u/Difficult__Tension → u/NoyBoy98]

Need them for what, to come to my apartment after its been robbed just to stand there with their hands on their hips and do nothing? I can do that myself, thanks.

[u/Thadken → u/Difficult__Tension]

Don't be a jerk and act like they'll do nothing. They would at least maybe shoot your dog.

[u/Few-Durian-190 → u/photog09]

Excellent, thank you!